SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #6

[TIGER0822]

I know nothing about guns. Is t even possible to shoot at your head and only graze yourself? Bullets travel fast?

 

[worm]

I know nothing about guns. Is t even possible to shoot at your head and only graze yourself? Bullets travel fast?

Possible but risky and there would be powder on the hands, face, etc. Really risky if the barrel is very short.

 

[airportwoman]

I am curious why AM was not taken to the Hampton Regional Medical Center...only a 12 minute drive from 15000 Salkehatchie Road. The Medical Center has an Emergency Dept. and it has a helipad.


Heliport Ownership and Management from official FAA records
Ownership: Publicly-owned
Owner: HAMPTON REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER
PO BOX 338
VARNVILLE, SC 29944
Phone 803-943-2771

AirNav: SC62 - Hampton Regional Medical Center Heliport

It, too appears to be a small hospital, not equipped to deal with someone who has a potential brain injury.

 

[airportwoman]

One thing I would like to throw out there about AM's "alibi". It was reported that he took his father to the hospital and stayed there with him visiting for hours. My brother who has heart problems recently had an episode with chest pains (Not a heart attack thank God). 911 was called and he was transported to the hospital. I don't know how it is in SC but I followed the ambulance to the hospital and was told at the emergency doors to wait outside. My sister brought him an overnight bag and was told the same thing after a nurse took the bag. The doctor came outside where we were waiting and told us his condition. We were informed we would not be allowed in the hospital to see or visit with him because of Covid so we went home. They called us when they were ready to discharge him. They brought him out to the car.

Based on this I am wondering about AM's "airtight alibi" of staying with his father at the hospital. As I said, that happened here and I do not know how the hospitals are handling Covid in SC but I would think it would be the same way as OK does.

Anyone else had any experience with hospitals doing this since Covid in other states?
JMO

It would depend on the individual hospital, and one wonders, the size of the bribe.

 

[MemPat]

I wonder what Perry Mason would think.

"Everybody, relax. Some joker's going to jump up at the end of the trial and tell what really happened." P. Mason

 

[StrangerThanFiction]

"Everybody, relax. Some joker's going to jump up at the end of the trial and tell what really happened." P. Mason

A joker by the name of Griffin, or Murdaugh...? JMO

 

[Lux et Veritas]

Alex is superficially? or substantially? wounded (no one can seem to get the story straight!) by a mystery assailant with apparently crappy shooting skills (10 shell casings but no bullet holes in the Mercedes!).

He then immediately 'escapes' the backroad 'attempted murder' scene via a mysterious "good Samaritan", then 7 miles down the road, he 'escapes' the area altogether via CARE Flight, then he 'escapes' the Savannah GA? or Charleston SC? hospital (depending on who's telling the story ... but hey, don't we all mix up two different hospitals in two different states?!), then he 'escapes' the hospital and is transported to some unknown 'rehab' center (SC? out of state?) - now safely behind private, closed doors.

One would almost think that Alex is evading LE.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

“He is shocked to come upon his own father who manages to talk him down and to give him the shotgun”

Do you mean for PM to give the gun to AM?

Yes, sorry. That's what I meant to say.

 

[worm]

His money deals, “attempted murder”, addiction, and the never ending soap opera of how important the family is in this state is all background noise to me. I’m mainly focused on the double murder.

 

[Rosiebones]

It occurs to me that if he tried to commit real or faux suicide, he would have residue on his hands and head, and would have temporarily deafened himself from the sound. It seems also that the gun would have been on the ground nearby or would have been found.
And, if he had been shot at by someone in a passing truck he is the luckiest man on the planet and he wouldn't have gunshot residue on him or be deafened by the sound. If the hospital received him as a gunshot victim they would have had procedures in place to answer these questions. MOO MOO MOO

 

[everybodhi]

His money deals, “attempted murder”, addiction, and the never ending soap opera of how important the family is in this state is all background noise to me. I’m mainly focused on the double murder.

My favorite quote about that..

"I see words like 'dynasty' used, and 'power,'" Randy said. "But we're just regular people that are working hard and trying to do right. And I think when you do those things, people respect you. We had great opportunities."

https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/brothers-prominent-south-carolina-family-speak-relatives-found/story?id=78331487

 

[taylorss]

…. First of all, it's obvious that MM was contemplating divorce (at least to me and you, ha). She was very concerned about the source of their "lifestyle" and gets the forensic audit going…

I didn’t follow this case for weeks so sorry I missed this - what is the evidence for MM contemplating divorce? And there was a forensic audit that she initiated?? Tia!!

 

[Elley Mae]

My favorite quote about that..

"I see words like 'dynasty' used, and 'power,'" Randy said. "But we're just regular people that are working hard and trying to do right. And I think when you do those things, people respect you. We had great opportunities."

https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/brothers-prominent-south-carolina-family-speak-relatives-found/story?id=78331487

That has bothered me from the start.

Having all that property that AM & MM has and the boys going to college and law school the boats and trips, the guns and hunting gear are not a cheap hobby. And thats one brother of 3.

Knowing what I know now and seeing that the other brothers also are well off it bothers me more considering the median (household) income 40,000.

So yes considering how the rest of the community is living the M’s are a dynasty to me.

Jmo


Eta In 1993 I was making 33,000 a year.
28 years ago.

 

[girlhasnoname]

But if the perp was using drugs illegally --- which I think he would be, because he doesn't seem to have any maladies that would require a prescription like Oxy---then you cannot use the diminished capacity defense as effectively.

If he was on a legal prescription of a medication that affected his judgment and abilities then it would be a good legal strategy. But if he is illegally buying opiates and using them to get high---then not so much. JMO

I have wondered if AM was helping himself to Dad's (RM) pain meds? He was probably on palliative/hospice care and would more than likely be prescribed painkillers.

My Dad died from cancer at home and was on serious pain meds, oxycontin, morphine, etc. at the end. A family member who is an addict stole pills every time she showed up.

MOO

 

[skyedaze]

Alex is superficially? or substantially? wounded (no one can seem to get the story straight!) by a mystery assailant with apparently crappy shooting skills (10 shell casings but no bullet holes in the Mercedes!)!

He then immediately 'escapes' the backroad 'attempted murder' scene via a mysterious "good Samaritan", then 7 miles down the road, he 'escapes' the area altogether via CARE Flight, then he 'escapes' the Savannah GA? or Charleston SC? hospital (depending on who's telling the story ... but hey, don't we all mix up two different hospitals in two different states?!), then he 'escapes' the hospital and is transported to some unknown 'rehab' center (SC? out of state?) - now safely behind private, closed doors.

One would almost think that Alex is evading LE.

It's like a James Bond movie....massive gunfire but James is barely grazed and the snazzy vehicle not damaged. Then a mystery person shows up out of the blue to transport him to a helicopter that just happens to be waiting for him and off he flies...que the Bond music....

 

[Wenifred]

I have wondered if AM was helping himself to Dad's (RM) pain meds? He was probably on palliative/hospice care and would more than likely be prescribed painkillers.

My Dad died from cancer at home and was on serious pain meds, oxycontin, morphine, etc. at the end. A family member who is an addict stole pills every time she showed up.

MOO

Exact same thoughts

 

[Crosscntrymom]

If AM shot MM and PM intervened as some have suggested MOO, AM would have had forensic evidence on his clothes, hands, weapons etc. If AM had hired a hit and PM intervened it might explain his genuine grief on the 911 call and quick return so close to the estimated time of the murders. Might also explain true despair, enough to consider suicide?

 

[skyedaze]

If AM shot MM and PM intervened as some have suggested MOO, AM would have had forensic evidence on his clothes, hands, weapons etc. If AM had hired a hit and PM intervened it might explain his genuine grief on the 911 call and quick return so close to the estimated time of the murders. Might also explain true despair, enough to consider suicide?

That's how I'm looking at it...option 2.
Set up everything so it happens while you are visiting your terminally ill father and dementia ridden mother...cuz ur such a good son/family kind of guy.
But problem... PM shows up when he's not supposed to..so he's gotta go.

My question: why by the dog kennels? So the house is not damaged at all maybe?

 

[Countem]

I didn’t follow this case for weeks so sorry I missed this - what is the evidence for MM contemplating divorce? And there was a forensic audit that she initiated?? Tia!!

Any discussion of divorce is purely speculative at this point, as there has been nothing released by law enforcement or the MSM.

MM, however, did hire a forensic accountant according to Reporter Matt Harris, morning show host on WLNK and host of the podcast “The Murdaugh Family Murders: Impact of Influence,” on “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” which I don’t know how to link to, but it is available on all podcasting apps, and has aired on both Fox Nation and Sirius XM Triumph.

 

[clearskies1]

If AM shot MM and PM intervened as some have suggested MOO, AM would have had forensic evidence on his clothes, hands, weapons etc. If AM had hired a hit and PM intervened it might explain his genuine grief on the 911 call and quick return so close to the estimated time of the murders. Might also explain true despair, enough to consider suicide?

With the former (speculation of course), it would take time to clean up, new clothes etc. Plus would need to ditch at least the assault rifle, and perhaps the shotgun too. Could use the Moselle home (obviously) for some of that. JMO.