SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #21

[303gmf]

Perfectly said! Crude and Rude.

This kid still in law school?? Hmmm
Junior high behavior

 

[sunshineray]

You know I'd pay money to see Alex's credit report.

Pay who? AM? He might take you up on that

 

[Cindizzi]

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[HawthorneJuniper]

So…..how will defense cover up AM being on the recording at the kennels? Remember he said he didn’t go there.

He said it. And so did the lawyer now representing him.

This is what Jim & Harpootlian said about that night in the HBO doc (I took screenshots with closed captions and then put them all together) :

That day June 7 Alex comes home from work around 6:30 and meets Paul. And he and Paul rode around the field, inspecting the property. They were just, you know, hanging out together. And then they met their mother, and they had dinner. I've got all their phone records leading up until the murder. And they're talking to each other. Maggie's talking to Paul, and Paul's talking to Alex. They were communicating in a very loving fashion. After dinner Maggie left the house to go run the dogs. Paul left the house because Paul never stayed inside. And Alex, frankly, doesn't know where Paul went.

Alex says that he lay down on the couch and watch TV and fell asleep. And he woke up about 9 o'clock, and he wanted to go check on his mother so he tries to call Maggie first, and she doesn't answer. And he tries to call Paul, and he doesn't answer. And he text Maggie and says "I'll be right back.". He leaves. And he is on his phone from 903 through 921.

At 9:21 he called his mothers house phone asking the nurses aide to let him in. His mothers and dad. She has dementia. She is watching a game show. And Alex sits on the bed, and the nurses aide says he is the same old Alex. There's no stress. And he stays there for about 20 minutes. And then he comes back and he gets on the phone again. And he's chatting it up with his friends.

And then he arrives back to Moselle, a little bit after 10. The house was still locked up, and there's been no sign that either Paul or Maggie had come into the house.

He got back in his car and drove down to the dog kennel. And that's where he discovers their bodies. Alex goes and checks Maggie, and there's no parts. Her body is found about 30 yards away from Paul's purple. Maggie is shot multiple times from a distance. In her leg shot in her wrist, another shot in her torso. And then there were two last shots while she was on the ground at close range. With Maggie it was an A.R. – 15 that was used. Immediately upon learning of Paul and Maggie's death, many people, me included, thought that this was the act of some delusional vigilante.”

That's quite a story. One that bears no relationship to the truth. Just count the lies.

 

[sunshineray]

He admits he was at Moselle. His alibi relies on timing. See his Notice of Alibi here:

Murdaugh filing alibi defense

www.documentcloud.org

And he specifically told numerous times he was never down at the kennels, the murder scene, after he had dinner. He lied numerous times about that.

 

[Walela]

Oh I’m well aware of the state’s theory and why the CFO was called to testify.

My point was that in contrast to Chris Wilson her character testimony was more believable.

My other point is that the state’s theory on motive is not persuasive. In conjunction with the lack of physical evidence, this financial crimes evidence seems prejudicial and bad character evidence instead of evidence of motive. If he gets convicted, the chance of an overturned conviction is high. Similar to Justin Ross Harris’ overturned conviction. Same thing is happening here IMO.

IMO the state is willing to chance that if they get a conviction it may be overturned and should that happen, they will most likely put him on trial again.

I agree with you about Wilson. I don't think he was all that naive when it came to not sending the fee checks with the expense checks and was being very careful not to say anything that would implicate himself. IMO the state needed him more for groundwork for the $792K CFO conversation evidence on 6-7.

 

[clearskies1]

Where is the story on this: "next seat is out the door"?

I clicked the linked video and it's the live feed.

Go into the live feed link. At approx -2:40:00. I don't know if that number keeps changing because its live but when I just looked that's what it was. Man and woman sitting reporting.

 

[Cindizzi]

Where is the story on this: "next seat is out the door"?

I clicked the linked video and it's the live feed.

You can rewind it by hitting play and then grab that red bar at the bottom, slide it to the left.

Wish I could give you a timestamp but can’t until after the Live has ended.

Go about halfway back.. look for a blonde reporter sitting outside the courthouse. She’s got the scoop.

JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

I heard some of the commentators for Law & Crime over lunch say that the prosecution may be dragging out the financial testimony too long - that they need to move back to the murders before the jury starts to lose interest. I’m wondering how much more the prosecution has that is directly related to the murders that we haven’t heard yet.

I'm wondering the very same thing. Concerned that they don't have anything left to present.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

You know I'd pay money to see Alex's credit report.

I could look at it at work, but I won't because I'd get in trouble.

 

[Luna20]

He should have said something to Tony about Gloria being like family to show that AM doesn’t care if it’s family.

 

[clearskies1]

I think this is the last financial witness -- showing Alex was in debt and Maggie owned half of Edisto beach house.

 

[Kembo]

I'm watching this in stages, but this is the first time I've heard CW state that he had talked with Alex just prior to AM arriving at mom's house and just prior to when he arrived to discover the bodies. If he did kill them, he seems to be establishing an alibi that would put him at mom's house for 20 minutes, so why suggest to Shelley that he was there a lot longer? This never made sense to me to begin with. It's suspicious to me that whenever he called CW, CW call him back, but then AM would say he was always too busy to talk, as if the only reason he called was to establish the alibi. Am I missing something?

 

[Ceska]

Remind me who Russell LaFitte(?) is?

Banker for Alex Murdaugh convicted for scheme to steal money from clients' legal settlements

A banker charged with helping disbarred attorney Alex Murdaugh take money from the legal settlements of clients has been found guilty of wire and bank fraud charges in South Carolina.

www.cbsnews.com

 

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[Boismom]

These talking heads do not get the pressure of being from a southern wealthy family. He had failed everyone in his life and he was caught. His name was crumbling. I believe he brutally murdered his family because he knew it was all coming out. Why is that so hard to believe? Many have been interviewed and say MM was a Murdaugh and was proud. She would tell her kids you are a Murdaugh. She was into the finer things some have said…he knew he would lose her. Paul was a liability. I know that sounds crass but when you are never satisfied to the tune of millions you must become an egomaniac. Case in point.

 

[BUF]

Where is the story on this: "next seat is out the door"?

I clicked the linked video and it's the live feed.

Go to around 2:54

 

[cocky0]

I could look at it at work, but I won't because I'd get in trouble.

Yeah it's not that important. Still. I'd love to see it.

 

[Weki]

IMO the state is willing to chance that if they get a conviction it may be overturned and should that happen, they will most likely put him on trial again.

I agree with you about Wilson. I don't think he was all that naive when it came to not sending the fee checks with the expense checks and was being very careful not to say anything that would implicate himself. IMO the state needed him more for groundwork for the $792K CFO conversation evidence on 6-7.

Yeah I think you’re right - the state wants a conviction by any means necessary. If it’s overturned they can put the blame on the appellate courts. That would take years to work through the appellate system and by then Waters will have gained whatever political benefit from the conviction. Perhaps I’m too cynical.

Regarding Wilson - I didn’t even consider that but it’s plausible. He seemed too eager to help AM on the stand. There’s answering honestly and there’s being eager to help. He seemed more in the latter camp. For someone so upset about being conned by AM it seemed odd.

 

[Walela]

This kid still in law school?? Hmmm
Junior high behavior

Last I heard he had not returned to law school because he wanted to have his previous GPA wiped and begin anew when readmitted and the school was refusing to do that. The cheating incident so lowered his GPA that if he was readmitted with that GPA standing, he could have had a 4.0 for the entire time up to graduation and not graduated with a high enough GPA to get a good job. jmo and recall