SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #22

[Cindizzi]

Former AG of South Carolina

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625279465579241472

 

[Batman's Mommy]

There's NO REASON for Bubba to be kenneled.

He didn't stay at the kennel. He traveled with Maggie (per Blanca). Maggie would've been leaving shortly for Edisto IMO....

In the video, it's Alec who is calling for Bubba. He is the only person who had reason to kennel Bubba.

This is not insignificant.

IMO it's huge.

JMO

I agree!!!

 

[Regal Beagle]

Did anyone swab the water spigot at the kennel?

I agree, I feel it's very plausible that he washed off and dressed at the kennels.

 

[Aquarian]

Time of death. I was very surprised that Waters didn’t ask about time of death.

I suspect DH has several things up his sleeve, one of them being getting her to estimate tod between 9-9:30 so he can claim impossibility that AM could have started his car nav system at 9:03 and the engine at 9:06 while being the murderer.

He can’t push too far, they still had food in the stomach, though she couldn’t really identify it other than meat. Takes about 2-4 hrs to go to the small intestine. What time did Paul arrive, 6 something?

How Long Does It Take For Your Stomach to Empty?

After you eat, food typically spends 2 to 4 hours in your stomach. However, this can vary based on the type of food you’ve eaten, how much, and other factors.

www.healthline.com

 

[Batman's Mommy]

The execution shot in the back of M’s head? Insane.

The shots were fired rapidly, and he probably could not tell that the one that went through her breast into her brain was fatal, but there could be no survivors to testify.....

 

[Regal Beagle]

Former AG of South Carolina

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625279465579241472

Prison full of people who have done it for significantly less...

 

[Elley Mae]

I think that shotgun was Alex's. maybe they had them out when riding around the property earlier? I'd imagine it would be typical to carry a gun around on the property while looking at the fields or whatever it was Alex wanted them doing that day. Paul's gun is the one that killed Maggie. Wasn't it said it was the one that Alex bought Paul.. he had one go missing and then Alex replaced it, but it's never been found. The one originally lost or the new one, both gone. Maybe Alex used his own shotgun on Paul and then wherever Paul had his own rifle located (maybe somewhere near him) is where Alex picked it up and used it to shoot Maggie as she was coming to see what the other shots were about.

I am thinking that the stolen gun wasn’t stolen, I am starting to think AM took the gun.

Jmo

 

[Seattle1]

I'm confused, I don't see any of the jurors taking notes.

In my original post that you replied to: "I heard a reporter say that the jury is allowed to take notes but chose not to."

Unless something has changed, jurors are definitely allowed to take notes in SC. I've seen it in two other trials Nathaniel Rowland (2021 with Judge Newman) and Michael Colucci (2018 with a different judge).

In my personal experience as a juror, Judge advised us the law did not prohibit jurors from taking notes, and he would therefore abide by the law.

But then he told us he was also using his discretion to give us jurors the option to decide whether or not we wanted to take notes, but that the decision had to be unanimous.

He explained the reason the decision had to be unanimous was to prevent the juror(s) that did not take notes during the trial to rely on and/or being influenced by the notes of another juror.

Beginning with the opening statement, I thought the prosecutor for my case was very effective at giving us hints about what to write down in our notes when she said the state was going to give us several important dates when the defendant was on call and would always carry a concealed weapon.

She'd also say to the state's witnesses: "This is important, please tell the jury ... . "

In other words, much like we do here, our jury quickly had a handle on the timeline.

It came as no surprise this prosecutor was appointed a Judge a few years later! MOO

 

[Batman's Mommy]

After the testimony of the friend who was in law enforcement about how the kennels were usually cleaned, and the placement of the dog house when cleaning the kennels, for some reason, I think this will be significant. We know that at 8:40 pm Bubba was running around with a chicken in his mouth, but I haven't heard any mention of there being dog prints in the blood. Around MM or PM...

JMO....moo

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625263857240272897

 

[General wooster]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625250167325618207

Crying…but tears of guilt or grief? And, were there actually tears?
Also, if innocent, how could any man witness such mayhem, be accused of causing it, and sit with composure? Just does not ring true. Also, checking cell phones in the face of this horror is a significant departure from normal behavior….and ironically, Maggie’s phone being taken and thrown in the woods…why would any killer do that? The deed was done.

 

[Edvis]

I am thinking that the stolen gun wasn’t stolen, I am starting to think AM took the gun.

Jmo

The planning mode/backup plan for a man's life that is starting to unravel.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

This is all JMO, but the scenario, given the positions of the bodies, would be something like this....AM was between the two of them with the two guns on his body with straps.... IMO, due to where the bodies were located, and that we know they fell face down, PM was facing out from the storage room. He was shot in is left side/shoulder from the left. MM was to his left (but possibly diagonal from PM's position), and so was the shooter.... IMO, I see PM with AM to his left and AM to MM's right... almost at an L shape. PM was shot from the left, and MM was shot from the right (shot in the left thigh and right midcenter)...

I think the family had so many guns, there is no telling which ones were used. I don't think it was the one that was stolen from PM, and the friend testified that it was Paul's replaced 300 Blackout that was in the courtroom because he has shot it, and it had PM's strap on it. AM had a favorite shotgun, and he probably had other favorite guns. IMO, these guns may never be found.

Lastly, AM asked both of them to be there that night. They wouldn't have been there, otherwise. Ringing in my ears is "The reason I asked you both to be here..." And then gunshots.

Again, all JMO. moo.....

 

[watcher9]

I agree, I feel it's very plausible that he washed off and dressed at the kennels.

Good thought. That would save him time. I think the GM data will confirm it.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

Repeat post.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

It sounds like it has to be PM shot first. If PM had this done to her where she was found PM would most certainly have not stayed put and been shot from behind. His mother was taken down like an animal. He would have ran towards or away from her and her killer and not wound up by the threshold of the feed room. AJMO

I think they were both caught completely off guard. In the video, everyone sounds happy, and basically laid back. They had no clue they were about to be murdered within minutes of each other.... Just so sad.

 

[Warwick7]

Particularly with Maggie. It seems like her shooter wanted her to feel terror and to suffer before losing consciousness.

It’s like the killer wanted them both to see their destruction coming, but wanted Maggie to register it incrementally. Paul was obliterated, but Maggie was directly confronted, chased down and shot repeatedly, and then executed.

I can see this e exactly!

 

[bestill]

I am sure I am not the only one that has considered that if AM really thought there were a murderer or murderers still out there he would have asked for security, been concerned for his own safety and BM's. He would have never been driving all over the state after the murders. He would have also been mentioning this throughout all of his interviews. He would have been focused on his own safety and Buster's instead his total focus was on his alibi. I hope the jury can step back and look at how an innocent person would react to this vs a manipulator.

 

[Seattle1]

AM/PM rode around the property checking out the trees and target shooting as one does on 1700 acres. This provided the perfect opportunity for AM to park the two weapons at the kennel before getting back to the house for a quick supper.

I've long wondered if AM using the wrong caliber shells in the shotgun used to kill PM caused the gun to jam when shooting at MM and why he was forced to go for the 2nd gun to kill MM. MOO

IMO, an impressive, speculative timeline below tweeted by Mandy Matney:

ETA: Timeline the opinion of the author and for speculation purposes only

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1624907591288487937

An updated version of the quoted author's timeline. Again, take note this is for speculation purposes only and the opinion of the author.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625165370314092552

 

[Warwick7]

Particularly with Maggie. It seems like her shooter wanted her to feel terror and to suffer before losing consciousness.

It’s like the killer wanted them both to see their destruction coming, but wanted Maggie to register it incrementally. Paul was obliterated, but Maggie was directly confronted, chased down and shot repeatedly, and then executed.

They both were lured there that specific night. And the grounds keeper was off that night.