SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #23

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Holy buckets -- not that MM's heartbreak was funny but you have to love she never let AM forget what allegedly happened in 2007.

No doubt AM sure made MM pay for (constantly) bringing it up. o_O
 
  • #202
Judge Newman references that AM started carrying a gun on his person in the wrong sequence. The sister stated the September part prior to that question.
 
  • #203
Maybe Mr. defense attorney should have just declined to question Maggie's sister.. they wouldn't be in this pickle right now. Can't have it both ways sir.
 
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This thing some (talking heads, etc.) keep hammering on about the motive not being clear or believable or understandable (insert word of choice there).... while we love to have a clear motive, NO motive has to be given, much less proven. This case is like so many others. Each individual circumstance on its own means nothing. But the totality of it all paints a clear picture. At least in my mind. Circumstancial evidence IS evidence!
 
  • #205
I don’t see how an affair that happened 15 years back pertains to the murders, especially since they have stayed together since.
 
  • #206
Did he instruct his cousin to safely shoot him in his head? Maybe he wanted to kill himself and didn't have the balls to do it himself. I mean, getting shot at doesn't really leave much room for error.
MOO AM brought Eddie into the picture to claim he killed MM and PM and now was going to AM. I think he was going to kill Eddie. Eddie caught on and wrestled the gun from him, in the scuffle it grazed Am's head.

Even a drive by person said it looked like a set up.

 
  • #207
IMO, AM had zero patience or the propensity to save -- offshore or otherwise!! MM had $57 to her name at death and their joint account wasn't exactly flush with cash either.
She only had $57 bucks to her name!? I hadn't heard that
 
  • #208
Look at who we are dealing with? His life is one big lie and not only a big lie, but he was able to con those he was stealing from and lying to. I'd say trying to pin down one motive is difficult with a person like this. He is a manipulator and that is clear from how he tries to suggest things to witnesses and in my opinion the state doesn't need to point to a specific motive, but all these "motives" are indicative of his state of mind at this time, the state of his marriage, his emotional state (dad dying, moms illness, son has a case hanging over his head, he's just been confronted about stealing, wife might be looking into finances when she has been far removed from the financials up to this point, etc) it was the perfect storm that lead to him commiting these murders. I don't think they are trying to throw it all at the wall, they are putting a puzzle together to show all these pieces of Alex and the picture is coming in clearly!
That's one big nutshell hanging over PM's head and agree, domino effect.
 
  • #209
I believe he is guilty. Otherwise he would have spent his considerable influence at the time and his last penny trying to find out who the killer was. Oh and he wouldn’t have paid his cousin to shoot him! His nuances in court betray him also. He can’t be still.
 
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Look at who we are dealing with? His life is one big lie and not only a big lie, but he was able to con those he was stealing from and lying to. I'd say trying to pin down one motive is difficult with a person like this. He is a manipulator and that is clear from how he tries to suggest things to witnesses and in my opinion the state doesn't need to point to a specific motive, but all these "motives" are indicative of his state of mind at this time, the state of his marriage, his emotional state (dad dying, moms illness, son has a case hanging over his head, he's just been confronted about stealing, wife might be looking into finances when she has been far removed from the financials up to this point, etc) it was the perfect storm that lead to him commiting these murders. I don't think they are trying to throw it all at the wall, they are putting a puzzle together to show all these pieces of Alex and the picture is coming in clearly!
Exactly.
 
  • #211
I don’t see how an affair that happened 15 years back pertains to the murders, especially since they have stayed together since.
Perhaps to show AM's character.
 
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I just mapped Lexington, SC to Walterboro, SC. It's only 1 hr & 45 minutes. Time for a field trip for Eddie. Come on Judge!
 
  • #213
The Defense is all over the place.... regarding the alleged affair, "it didn't happen", "it happened 15 years ago". :rolleyes:
The defenses smoke and mirrors have backfired on em lol.
 
  • #214
Maybe Mr. defense attorney should have just declined to question Maggie's sister.. they wouldn't be in this pickle right now. Can't have it both ways sir.
Can’t help but wonder whose side Griffin is on. I think he would like to see AM found guilty.
 
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I don’t see how an affair that happened 15 years back pertains to the murders, especially since they have stayed together since.
So it wasn't a "lovey dovey" marriage?
 
  • #217
So.Much.DRAMA!!!! Goodness gracious.
Welcome to the Big Top we been riding this crazy train for awhile with our popcorn and balloons flying all over the place.
 
  • #218
Perhaps to show AM's character.
And to leave jurors wondering if AM already had picked out MM’s replacement.
 
  • #219
You can't allow this stuff in. First of all, the prosecution is skating on thin ice with all the financial stuff. An appeal is 50/50 just with that. But the defense never asked about September and didn't open any doors imo.

As far as the affair thing, that is just a smear campaign from the prosecution. It happened 15 years ago and it isn't even stated in fact on what happened. What's next? Are you going to admit the time he stepped in dog crap 20 years ago?
Prosecution has never skated on thin ice.
They've been on target!
 
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You can't allow this stuff in. First of all, the prosecution is skating on thin ice with all the financial stuff. An appeal is 50/50 just with that. But the defense never asked about September and didn't open any doors imo.

As far as the affair thing, that is just a smear campaign from the prosecution. It happened 15 years ago and it isn't even stated in fact on what happened. What's next? Are you going to admit the time he stepped in dog crap 20 years ago?

The defense is responsible for anything the witness brings up through their own questioning. Too bad, so sad. Never ask a question you don’t know the answer to.
If the defense would shut up about what a great awesome guy Alex, who steals from orphans, is, the prosecution wouldn’t have to counter with the truth.
 
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