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[Donjeta]

A couple of things bother me about this...

He said he had no option but to tell the police because of the level of detail the man gave when talking about his disturbing encounter.

The witness added: “I knew that by reporting it, it would *compromise me in all sorts of ways. But it was something that I couldn’t ignore. If I hadn’t said anything I couldn’t have lived with myself.”

It seems they're hinting that the circumstances had something to do with child prostitution or something equally heinous and disturbing.

Another thing:

The confession was made at a party in the North West of England in August and the lawyer gave a full statement to his local force, Greater Manchester Police, the following day.

Officers are taking the information seriously and are set to prepare a file for Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange team, leading the hunt.
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He has been in contact with detectives within the last few days as they act on his crucial statement.

The barrister gave a statement in August and the police are only now 'set to prepare a file' and follow up?

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[SapphireSteel]

A couple of things bother me about this...



It seems they're hinting that the circumstances had something to do with child prostitution or something equally heinous and disturbing.

Another thing:



The barrister gave a statement in August and the police are only now 'set to prepare a file' and follow up?

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Let's not forget the "sightings" in Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Bolivia etc...oh and the claim that she would be "home by Christmas" back in 07.

Spin, spin, and more spin. Headline grabbers.

The thing about Madeleine is, like JB before her, she is a great money-spinner.

With JB we have seen book after book, all claiming to know the "truth", all arguing against each other.

All aiming to profiteer off a little girls death.

:sick:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Any sighting should be investigated. Look at how Elizabeth Smart was found, wandering around in plain sight.

Madeleine could still be out there. We have to keep looking.

 

[Donjeta]

I just think that the sightings should be investigated without involving the tabloids.

If I'm a human trafficker and I'm holding one of the most sought-after ten-year-olds of the world on a Mediterranean island and then I read in the Mirror that one of my customers was indiscreet at a party and now somebody is bragging to a reporter that they've put the police on my trail, I'm going to consider it as my warning and act accordingly. It could be dangerous to Madeleine and even if she's too valuable to get rid of they're harder to find if the perps get notified beforehand that the police knows where to look now.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I don't think that is possible and to be honest, Those tabloids get stuff out there.
A lot of people read them.

I agree. It is a crazy line to walk. I mean if they don't say anything then no one is looking, if they do they could put her in danger..

I just think whatever it takes we have to keep looking.

 

[Donjeta]

Yeah although if this sighting is the real thing I'm not too sure that anyone's going to spot Madeleine walking in the street. The way it was described as disturbing and the barrister implying that merely knowing about it compromised him in some way sounds like there are going to be some very unpleasant people involved and the setting was something more sinister than your usual, "I saw a girl who looked just like her at a cafeteria", sightings. It could be that the people who see her aren't likely to report it.

 

[SapphireSteel]

If they've seen her, why hasn't she been rescued?

:dunno:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Yeah although if this sighting is the real thing I'm not too sure that anyone's going to spot Madeleine walking in the street. The way it was described as disturbing and the barrister implying that merely knowing about it compromised him in some way sounds like there are going to be some very unpleasant people involved and the setting was something more sinister than your usual, "I saw a girl who looked just like her at a cafeteria", sightings. It could be that the people who see her aren't likely to report it.

Yeah. It is all disturbing. As much as I like to follow the cases and watch out for updates and information, sometimes it just breaks my heart too much. What missing kids go through. I want them found. I just keep thinking of The 3 in ohio and E.Smart, and others who were found safe.
I want that same outcome for Madeleine.

 

[Donjeta]

Scotland Yard is to appeal for information about a new suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Detectives are to issue an e-fit image of a man seen near the holiday apartment from where the then three-year-old vanished in 2007.
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But sources said police will not know how significant the suspect is until he is identified, traced and interviewed.

He is one of 41 individuals police believe are "people of interest" they need to talk to.

http://news.sky.com/story/1152167/madeleine-mccann-police-probe-possible-suspect


Is there regional variation in what "people of interest" means? When reading crime news from US it seems like person of interest is mostly just a nicer way of saying 'we're pretty sure he did it but can't arrest him without more evidence'. But if it was just one guy taking off with Madeleine and they still have dozens of persons of interest it doesn't seem like the term can be taken in quite the same way.

How accurate do you think an e-fit is going to be if the witness took six years to come forward with the information? I don't remember how I looked six years ago... I may have had red hair, I'm not sure.

 

[Donjeta]

Okay so here's some more explanation what person of interest means to them.

A number of sexual offenders have been identified as being in the area at the time and are being sought as persons of interest to be questioned. Other individuals who were using mobile phones in the vicinity of the resort at the time have yet to be identified and efforts are focusing on putting names to the handsets – many of which are pay as you go, making the police task more difficult.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/09/madeleine-mccann-investigation-police-efit-suspect

Basically it appears to mean just someone they'd like to question with little evidence that they are actually connected with the case in any way other than they were somewhere in the vicinity.

Well, I hope someone identifies the man in the e-fit and a search at his home turns up evidence and a healthy Madeleine because otherwise it sounds like they've not gotten very far in narrowing down the field.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Okay so here's some more explanation what person of interest means to them.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/09/madeleine-mccann-investigation-police-efit-suspect

Basically it appears to mean just someone they'd like to question with little evidence that they are actually connected with the case in any way other than they were somewhere in the vicinity.

I think this is more accurate.

"Scotland Yard says that 41 people of interest have been identified since it began its own inquiry, including 15 UK nationals. Detectives in Britain had issued 31 requests to Portugal and other countries for access to the phone records. "

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ecords-from-praia-da-luz-in-2007-8860807.html

There are specific people they are looking at. Not just a group of people.



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[Donjeta]

I think this is more accurate.

"Scotland Yard says that 41 people of interest have been identified since it began its own inquiry, including 15 UK nationals. Detectives in Britain had issued 31 requests to Portugal and other countries for access to the phone records. "

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ecords-from-praia-da-luz-in-2007-8860807.html

There are specific people they are looking at. Not just a group of people.



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I don't see a contradiction in the two quotes. A sex offender is a specific person, and so is a cell phone owner.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I don't see a contradiction in the two quotes. A sex offender is a specific person, and so is a cell phone owner.

To me you are saying just someone they want to question. I don't see that. To call them suspects is more that people they want to question. More than persons of interest. Suspects means they consider it very possible they could be involved.


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[Donjeta]

To me you are saying just someone they want to question. I don't see that. To call them suspects is more that people they want to question. More than persons of interest. Suspects means they consider it very possible they could be involved.


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Well, but neither quote that was posted contains the word suspect.

Here they are again:

A number of sexual offenders have been identified as being in the area at the time and are being sought as persons of interest to be questioned. Other individuals who were using mobile phones in the vicinity of the resort at the time have yet to be identified and efforts are focusing on putting names to the handsets – many of which are pay as you go, making the police task more difficult.

Scotland Yard says that 41 people of interest have been identified since it began its own inquiry, including 15 UK nationals. Detectives in Britain had issued 31 requests to Portugal and other countries for access to the phone records. "

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Sorry. I have a lot of links and documents up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-McCann-suspect-picture-released-police.html

Police have identified a new suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and are set to release an 'e-fit' photograph of him, it was claimed today.


They are pulling suspects from the pack if persons of interest.

This link calls the suspects.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/04/madeleine-mccann-police-target-38-suspects

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[Donjeta]

Sorry. I have a lot of links and documents up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-McCann-suspect-picture-released-police.html

Police have identified a new suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and are set to release an 'e-fit' photograph of him, it was claimed today.


They are pulling suspects from the pack if persons of interest.


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Yeah, sure, no doubt.
Some persons of interest are suspects. Some children are dirty. It doesn't mean that all children are dirty and it doesn't mean that person of interest is synonymous with serious suspect that they think very possibly could be involved.

It seems like some of them would have to be just coincidentally in the area unless they seriously think that there were 41 people involved with Madeleine's disappearance.

It seems like quite a lot to me. I suppose it could be a pedophile ring that had a gathering in PdL there or something.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/04/madeleine-mccann-police-target-38-suspects




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[Dushi]

• This article was amended on 5 July 2013. The headline on the original described the 38 "persons of interest" as suspects; they are potential suspects.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/04/madeleine-mccann-police-target-38-suspects

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/04/madeleine-mccann-police-target-38-suspects




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I have three thoughts about this:

"Potential suspect" means something different to me than "suspect"

Madeleine McCann: police target 38 potential suspects identified in review

British detectives are targeting 38 potential suspects from five countries as they open a fresh criminal investigation into the Madeleine McCann case six years after she went missing from her family's holiday apartment in Portugal.

I wonder if it's the reporter's wording or LE's. The article has no direct quotes from LE saying they're calling these people suspects, potential or otherwise, the words Redwood uses are key persons of interest and witnesses:

He said the Met team was in a unique position, having put all the evidence – amounting to 30,500 documents – together, and the criminal investigation would now pursue thousands of leads and key persons of interest.

"I believe that there is a possibility that Madeleine is alive," he said. "The review has given us new thinking, new theories, new evidence and new witnesses to pursue. It is a positive step in our hunt for Madeleine that our understanding of the evidence has enabled us to shift from a review to an investigation."

Not sure who is quoted here, if it's Redwood again:

The 38 "persons of interest" who emerged from a two-year review of the evidence by Met officers come from five countries, including Portugal and the UK. They include 12 British nationals, some based in Portugal and some in the UK

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And they now have three extra persons of interest... Couldn't they rule anyone out?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Sounds to me that they are expanding the scope and that is how more people are being added.
What it shows me is that the police absolutely believe that this little girl was taken by a stranger.



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