Searchers return to area near skyline school.

  • #261
Maybe this stuff went on between 8-8:30 or else maybe they are not being ignored. We don't know.
 
  • #262
I have no problem believing that Kyron was walking around with friends while TH was talking with teachers/friends. If the boy saw the truck then that means that either TH was still there (maybe telling the teacher about an appointment, if that happened) or she had "left", or wanted people to think that she left but was waiting for Kyron to come out as instructed after he finished looking.
 
  • #263
So why are these accounts being ignored ?

In a way, after watching that clip, I feel we're being jerked around by the media (understatement?!)...

The female newscaster starts with "This, as Kyron Horman's mother points the finger at Kyron's stepmom on national television..."

This entire time, the media has been anti-Terri and now that they have an actual accusation against Terri, they are able to show another side? Very strange! I would love to know how long they've known about this little boy...
 
  • #264
So why are these accounts being ignored ?

Personally, I very much doubt they are being ignored. They are obvious, came early on, and involve eyewitnesses. I assume that they have been checked out and either explained by other or further information or discredited. As close to the vest as LE is playing it, I doubt they'd come right out and fill us in on the details of this. Especially wrt to the child's account. jmoo

eta: never mind. I didn't realize this was new stuff. Note to self: Read the thread first, read the thread first!
 
  • #265
HI guys.....have only read the first post with the info re looking for a certain family and with pick up trucks.....so I dont know what you have discussed..

my two cents worth is that they are looking for other/s involved.....

I truly beleive Terry has used sex to lure men to do her dirty work and someone local has taken the bait and hopefully!!!!!!!! has him hidden somewhere......

I know she tried to get the hubby killed and you can bet your bottom dollar that she had been sexting the landscaper for a while before she just came out and asked him to do that for her...........but I just cant get my head around her trying to get someone and someone actually killing a child for her.......

the thing that does concern me is his allergy to bees........and getting him stung by bee/s would be easy and maybe not as awful for her conscience to handle

Here's my problem with this...if TH is going to go so far as to hire a hitman to kill KH then, why would she want to just hide Kyron somewhere and not kill him as well?

I can't figure out why she'd want KH dead and Kyron alive & hiding out somewhere?

It would seem more logical that she intended to kill both Kyron & KH to free herself a new life.

And since for whatever reason the hit on KH was foiled, why then would she stage an abduction of Kyron?
 
  • #266
I have no problem believing that Kyron was walking around with friends while TH was talking with teachers/friends. If the boy saw the truck then that means that either TH was still there (maybe telling the teacher about an appointment, if that happened) or she had "left", or wanted people to think that she left but was waiting for Kyron to come out as instructed after he finished looking.

It would make more sense if TH was still there somewhere and this was before she says she said goodbye, since LE have stated that she was the last known person to see Kyron.

If she was gone before this, that statement would make no sense, or young Mr. T's statement, or Kyron being with friends as this young man states. :waitasec:
 
  • #267
So why are these accounts being ignored ?

Maybe not ignored - but kept hush hush. I'm thinking maybe LE being so secretive about the time this boy saw Kryon in the gym is because it would show the school was really negligent for not calling the parents. In other words, maybe this child saw Kyron in the gym as part of the chaperoned touring of the science exhibits. And Kyron went missing from the group. That is the way I originally thought it to be when another child and/or parent volunteer commented that Kyron was not back and teacher said to calm down maybe he was in the bathroom or getting a drink. Very odd.
 
  • #268
I have a hard time believing these kids both noticed Terri's truck and/or Terri at points when she was not with Kyron...kids don't do that, they are busy with one thing at a time, especially on a day like this. I am sure LE has been over and over the statements of these children and have determined what parts make sense when compared to the timeline from teachers as to who was where when, and when Terri's phone or bank carrd was elsewhere, etc...there is no conspiracy to silence these children, except to as how it might harm the investigation for them to be on TV talking about it.
 
  • #269
Oh also - if you consider the rumor that Terri told the teacher across the noisy gym about the appt. - then it would make sense that Terri was in the gym with Kyron, just maybe not together at that moment when T saw him with friends. He doesn't say or not say if Terri was with Kyron then.
 
  • #270
I do wonder why LE interviewed this boy a 2nd time--maybe to see if his story was the same?

I used to teach, and it's amazing how the students know what each other is up to--they are actually very observant. Many times, I had to question children to discern the truth (he said/she said problems), and they would all see details that I missed...
 
  • #271
Here's my problem with this...if TH is going to go so far as to hire a hitman to kill KH then, why would she want to just hide Kyron somewhere and not kill him as well?

I can't figure out why she'd want KH dead and Kyron alive & hiding out somewhere?

It would seem more logical that she intended to kill both Kyron & KH to free herself a new life.

And since for whatever reason the hit on KH was foiled, why then would she stage an abduction of Kyron?

There's one way it makes perfect sense. If, for one reason or another, TH wanted to get Kyron away from his father.

She had raised Kyron since he was very young, and might have been very attached to him. She senses that her marriage is falling apart - and since she is only the step mom, she will lose all contact with Kyron. (Another possibility would have been if she suspected abuse.)

That leaves two options - get rid of the father, or snatch the boy. The first didn't work out, so...
 
  • #272
I do wonder why LE interviewed this boy a 2nd time--maybe to see if his story was the same?

I used to teach, and it's amazing how the students know what each other is up to--they are actually very observant. Many times, I had to question children to discern the truth (he said/she said problems), and they would all see details that I missed...

I see the repeat interviewing as more of a problem. Memories change over time and my be affected by what the child may have seen or heard since the first interview, which was right after Kyron went missing.
 
  • #273
Sadly I feel I have complete tunnel vision. I have tried to imagine another scenerio, and even with this "news info, about looking for a family and a student seeing him in the gym. I can still see it being Terri and no one else... WHY??? Because of her actions. I am sorry there is not a conspiracy to try and frame Terri, she is just not that important. She is making herself look guilty.
 
  • #274
HI guys.....have only read the first post with the info re looking for a certain family and with pick up trucks.....so I dont know what you have discussed..

my two cents worth is that they are looking for other/s involved.....

I truly beleive Terry has used sex to lure men to do her dirty work and someone local has taken the bait and hopefully!!!!!!!! has him hidden somewhere......

I know she tried to get the hubby killed and you can bet your bottom dollar that she had been sexting the landscaper for a while before she just came out and asked him to do that for her...........but I just cant get my head around her trying to get someone and someone actually killing a child for her.......

the thing that does concern me is his allergy to bees........and getting him stung by bee/s would be easy and maybe not as awful for her conscience to handle
I just had the thought those 'photo-texts' could be salable, right? Just a quick thought.
 
  • #275
Now this makes a little more sense.Zimmerman said she last saw him at 8:15,Terri said she left Kyron in the hall at 8:45,so I was wondering what was going on for that half an hour.Then there was the confusion about the doctor's appt with the teacher and Terri saying something to her in the gym. I thought maybe they went to the same exercise gym,but this is the gym,the school gym.So when the kids went back to the classroom and the little boy said Kyron wasn't with them,I guess he was with them all in the gym.

So,it's been reported there was a witness who saw Kyron last,but wasn't giving out the name.I imagine it's the boy in this interview here that saw Kyron in the gym,but Terri's truck was still in the parking lot.And why would Terri leave Kyron in the hall to go to his classroom when his class wasn't in there at 8:45?
 
  • #276
I think TH used smoke and mirrors to make it appear that she had left Kyron at the school and she had left. Making sure he was seen with others without her, talking about an appt, etc.
 
  • #277
Sadly I feel I have complete tunnel vision. I have tried to imagine another scenerio, and even with this "news info, about looking for a family and a student seeing him in the gym. I can still see it being Terri and no one else... WHY??? Because of her actions. I am sorry there is not a conspiracy to try and frame Terri, she is just not that important. She is making herself look guilty.

I absolutely wholeheartedly agree with you. The other thing I can't get past is the fact that Terri may have an accomplice holding Kyron somewhere. I mean honestly, is there anyone out there who would really put themselves into this situation and hold onto a child who has made national headlines for a month??? I know I certainly don't have friends or relatives who would risk their own behinds for me and I can't imagine that she has anyone that would be willing to do that for her. It's just ridiculous. Terri doesn't have anyone else to blame but Terri for this and perhaps if she were truly innocent, she should be screaming at the top of her lungs proclaiming that.
 
  • #278
Maybe not ignored - but kept hush hush. I'm thinking maybe LE being so secretive about the time this boy saw Kryon in the gym is because it would show the school was really negligent for not calling the parents. In other words, maybe this child saw Kyron in the gym as part of the chaperoned touring of the science exhibits. And Kyron went missing from the group. That is the way I originally thought it to be when another child and/or parent volunteer commented that Kyron was not back and teacher said to calm down maybe he was in the bathroom or getting a drink. Very odd.

And my question has always been -- How did the teacher go from thinking Kyron was in the bathroom or getting a drink to marking him absent and never looking back?

When the substitute questioned the teacher about where Kyron was, it's important to note that the way the child remembers it, the teacher didn't say, "He has a doctor's appointment."
 
  • #279
snip...

When Kyron's friend questioned the teacher about where Kyron was, it's important to note that the way the child remembers it, the teacher didn't say, "He has a doctor's appointment."

Kyron's friend questioned the teacher?? Really - I missed that. Please post link.
 
  • #280
Kyron's friend questioned the teacher?? Really - I missed that. Please post link.

Sorry, that was a typo/brainfart on my part, I meant the "substitute," although the point stands, because when the substitute asked where was Kyron, the teacher answered for her to calm down because Kyron was probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water.

The video is auto-embedding. Eek! If anyone wants a link to the comments provided by the child that support the above statement, feel free to send me a private message.

And thanks, sacrebleu, for pointing out my typo! It's important to get the facts right about this case.
 

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