Seattle mom arrested for murder after fatal beating of teen son over chores

“Spanking” and viciously beating are two different things. An open-handed swat on the bottom (meaning the fleshy buttocks) of a child to keep him from darting out into the road, etc. is entirely different than “beating”, both in severity and in kind. One is done out of love to keep a child who isn’t yet able to reason safe (never in anger). The other is cruelty. The opposite of love.

I know why she used the term “spanking”. She was making a veiled attempt to conflate the two. There is a world of difference between the two concepts, and they are mutually exclusive.

Also, hitting out in a fit of anger lasts seconds. It’s one lash, or one slap, or one cruel word. She is a barbaric monster, and I wish she lived in a state other than Washington.

MOO.
agreed - also at 14 years old, spankings are not at all appropriate IMO. What that woman did was absolutely not a spanking, those don't last for 3 hours. I am shocked the kid just took the beating, to death. He didn't try to fight back, he didn't try to escape, just took it. This tells me he was trained for many years to take it or it will get worse, meaning he's been abused by this woman his whole life.

I have no idea who his guardian was but am curious to know what happened when mom refused to return him to that individual. Were LE contacted? CPS? Was the guardian attempting to get him out of that household.

The boyfriend, I just have no words. He shares smaller, younger children with this woman. But he felt like he didn't want to interfere and get involved? How did this monster treat HIS own children in that household??

Just a horrible horrible case, I couldn't get this kid off my mind last night. And we don't even know his name. That really bothers me.
 
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This “mother,” is a tyrant. No doubt her family is afraid of her. Her partner certainly is. I hope she gets to live the life she deserves in prison. My heart breaks for the son she murdered.
Agree, that is what it is looking like to me, nobody wanted to cross her.

I hope she meets lots of people where she is going who make her feel the terror she visited on others. In a just world she would encounter her own monsters in prison.
 
The charges need to reflect the true cruelty of what she did, hours of inflicting pain and fear. And she never stopped, so she knew he would die. She should not just have a charge of 2nd degree murder.

Her partner should be arrested and charged with crimes, too.
 
I too am disappointed in the charges. I think it should be 1st degree murder with torture thrown in to boot.

Murder in the second degree.
(1) A person is guilty of murder in the second degree when:
(a) With intent to cause the death of another person but without premeditation, he or she causes the death of such person or of a third person; or
(b) He or she commits or attempts to commit any felony, including assault, other than those enumerated in RCW 9A.32.030(1)(c), and, in the course of and in furtherance of such crime or in immediate flight therefrom, he or she, or another participant, causes the death of a person other than one of the participants; except that in any prosecution under this subdivision (1)(b) in which the defendant was not the only participant in the underlying crime, if established by the defendant by a preponderance of the evidence, it is a defense that the defendant:
(i) Did not commit the homicidal act or in any way solicit, request, command, importune, cause, or aid the commission thereof; and
(ii) Was not armed with a deadly weapon, or any instrument, article, or substance readily capable of causing death or serious physical injury; and
(iii) Had no reasonable grounds to believe that any other participant was armed with such a weapon, instrument, article, or substance; and
(iv) Had no reasonable grounds to believe that any other participant intended to engage in conduct likely to result in death or serious physical injury.
(2) Murder in the second degree is a class A felony.
[ 2003 c 3 s 2; 1975-'76 2nd ex.s. c 38 s 4; 1975 1st ex.s. c 260 s 9A.32.050.]

Murder in the first degree.
(1) A person is guilty of murder in the first degree when:
(a) With a premeditated intent to cause the death of another person, he or she causes the death of such person or of a third person; or
(b) Under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life, he or she engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to any person, and thereby causes the death of a person; or
(c) He or she commits or attempts to commit the crime of either (1) robbery in the first or second degree, (2) rape in the first or second degree, (3) burglary in the first degree, (4) arson in the first or second degree, or (5) kidnapping in the first or second degree, and in the course of or in furtherance of such crime or in immediate flight therefrom, he or she, or another participant, causes the death of a person other than one of the participants: Except that in any prosecution under this subdivision (1)(c) in which the defendant was not the only participant in the underlying crime, if established by the defendant by a preponderance of the evidence, it is a defense that the defendant:
(i) Did not commit the homicidal act or in any way solicit, request, command, importune, cause, or aid the commission thereof; and
(ii) Was not armed with a deadly weapon, or any instrument, article, or substance readily capable of causing death or serious physical injury; and
(iii) Had no reasonable grounds to believe that any other participant was armed with such a weapon, instrument, article, or substance; and
(iv) Had no reasonable grounds to believe that any other participant intended to engage in conduct likely to result in death or serious physical injury.
(2) Murder in the first degree is a class A felony.
[ 1990 c 200 s 1; 1975-'76 2nd ex.s. c 38 s 3; 1975 1st ex.s. c 260 s 9A.32.030.]

Homicide by abuse.

(1) A person is guilty of homicide by abuse if, under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life, the person causes the death of a child or person under sixteen years of age, a developmentally disabled person, or a dependent adult, and the person has previously engaged in a pattern or practice of assault or torture of said child, person under sixteen years of age, developmentally disabled person, or dependent person.
(2) As used in this section, "dependent adult" means a person who, because of physical or mental disability, or because of extreme advanced age, is dependent upon another person to provide the basic necessities of life.
(3) Homicide by abuse is a class A felony.
[ 1987 c 187 s 1.]

I believe beating someone for HOURS shows premeditation. I think his death was a foreseeable outcome of being beaten for HOURS. She exhibited extreme indifference to life, she engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death and did cause that death. She tortured her minor child to death. JMO
 
It’s so sad that he had a guardian, but he was not able to escape to safety, for whatever complicated reasons. RIP, young man.
I’d like to know why the guardian didn’t contact authorities to get him back instead of leaving him in what was likely a known abusive/neglectful home. There had to be some reason he had a guardian. How sad that so many failed this poor boy.
 
I’d like to know why the guardian didn’t contact authorities to get him back instead of leaving him in what was likely a known abusive/neglectful home. There had to be some reason he had a guardian. How sad that so many failed this poor boy.
I want to know more about that as well. So far the guardian hasn't spoken out, so I don't know that they DIDN'T try to get help from LE or CPS. We've seen cases here before where a parent/guardian attempted to get a child back from an abusive non custodial parent and were met with nothing but brick walls.

One such example is the case of Navin Jones
https://www.pjstar.com/story/news/c...s-details-events-before-his-death/9485669002/
 
My grandson was born two months after my son turned 16, mom was 15. We raised him and his sister and had to go to court to keep them out of abuse like this. His birthday is Valentine's Day and he will be thirty years old and still lives here at home with us. Because of all that he had to endure when he was with her, he does not trust people, won't sit with his back to a door or open the windows in his bedroom. I expected that Jon would end up died like this young boy every time he had a visit with her.

I'm sure that the woman's sister might of been in the same spot of being afraid of her and hoping that she'd finally make a better mother for the boy this time. Or she was tired of raising a young teen boy and thought he wasn't worth the fight to get him back.

Yeah, stepdad or boyfriend never stood up for that boy. Now would he if it had been one of his children?
 
I'm wondering if other family were afraid of her. Stepdad doesn't want to intervene, her sister is legal guardian but doesn't go and retrieve the boy- that sounds to me like people who are afraid of what she'll do if they cross her. (NOT that this excuses stepdad in ANY way, it absolutely does NOT, but I'm wondering if that was his real thought process and the statement he gave was just phrased so he wouldn't have to admit he was afraid of his partner.) That tells me that there's a real anger management issue there- and that this may not be the first time she's beaten someone, just the first time they didn't survive. OMO MOO
I agree.
 
3 hours whipping someone is a long, LONG time. I'd have thought it would have stopped long before it did due to sheer tiredness, sore arm, coming to her senses, the other young kids scared out of their wits and likely crying, etc. But instead it continued until he fell (4 or 5 times according to reports). So it make me wonder, had he not fallen and unable to get back up that last time, just how long was this woman going to continue the torture? What was going to make her stop? Or was it simply dependent on the child being unable to get back up that dictated when she stopped?

With how cruel this woman sounds I'm surprised she stopped at that. It also makes me wonder why she waited 5 minutes to call 911. Was she waiting for him to get back up so she could resume the whipping? smh

JMO
 
In the first post & article it mentions she forced him to totally undress.
Not even so much as a T-shirt or shorts to soften some of the blows.
Torture.


[Mother] ordered [son] to remove his clothing and used an extension cord to strike him."

Sometimes I wonder if the public were shown what these children and teens look like after their abusers are through with them-- in a respectful manner with sensitive areas covered but showing their wounds -- the outcry would be such, that a longer sentence might be handed down ?
I don't know, just my opinion sentences are often too lenient.
This is why I rarely follow children's cases, they're so hard to hear.
Imo.

Rest in peace, Jemiere !
 
well his guardian should've called the cops and had him returned
I don't understand how this monster was just able to 'not return him'

Was the egg donor receiving any monetary incentive for keeping him, i.e., benefits ?
That thought was in my mind yesterday as to why she wanted to keep him-- even though she apparently hated Jemiere ?
I still wish the legal guardian had demanded his return.
Imo.
 
well his guardian should've called the cops and had him returned
I don't understand how this monster was just able to 'not return him'
I am NOT excusing behavior because this poor young man needed someone to save him, but the guardian was the violent mom’s sister (see upthread). She may be as afraid of her sister as everyone else seemed to be. Or he may have begged to stay with his mama. It’s hard to know how much trauma everyone was experiencing at the hands of this murderer. Jmo
 
Back in 2018, the suspect and her boyfriend were charged with assault in Sumter, SC, following an altercation with a physician at a hospital. (They were apparently angered by some medical information that he gave them.) At one point, she jumped on the doctor's back and punched him in the face numerous times. I couldn't find what the ultimate resolution of the matter was.

[Mod snip name of person]

Also, I was wondering why we hadn't seen her booking photos. It turns out that in Washington State mugshots have been ruled exempt from disclosure since a 1998 court case. (They do release certain ones where public safety dictates it, such as sex offenders' photos.) It's been challenged in court a few times, but was upheld.
 
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Im sick sick sick about this case. Ive dreaded joining the discussion a bit. I cant imagine how many times he kept flinching, waiting for the next sting. I just cant. Her rage must have crossed over into an unbelievable hate.like like idk, something like wrath. Yes thats the word. Wrath.
 
Young threw a cup of ice water at the doctor after he told the couple her test results came back normal and her boyfriend pushed the doctor, according to an incident report from the Sumter Police Department (SPD).

The boy’s stepfather reportedly told an officer that he didn’t “discipline” Robinson “because that’s not my place.” According to court documents, the stepfather saw Young chase the boy up and down their three-story town home, repeatedly hitting him. He told officers he didn’t intervene because “my best bet is to mind my own business,” the affidavit said
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...-with-murder-for-beating-her-son-14-to-death/ :mad: :mad:

*Sounds like this kid was failed by all in his life. :(

The ME declared his cause of death was multiple blunt-force trauma. He then suffered Sudden Inflammatory Response Syndrome (SIRS), in which the body sends blood to so many areas in the body that it cannot sustain the heart.
 
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agreed - also at 14 years old, spankings are not at all appropriate IMO. What that woman did was absolutely not a spanking, those don't last for 3 hours. I am shocked the kid just took the beating, to death. He didn't try to fight back, he didn't try to escape, just took it. This tells me he was trained for many years to take it or it will get worse, meaning he's been abused by this woman his whole life.

I have no idea who his guardian was but am curious to know what happened when mom refused to return him to that individual. Were LE contacted? CPS? Was the guardian attempting to get him out of that household.

The boyfriend, I just have no words. He shares smaller, younger children with this woman. But he felt like he didn't want to interfere and get involved? How did this monster treat HIS own children in that household??

Just a horrible horrible case, I couldn't get this kid off my mind last night. And we don't even know his name. That really bothers me.
So , I am thankful to Jesus this morning, that I clicked this thread on this post . I need it to process what I am about to go an learn. You have been here a minute so I kinda respect and heed your warnings.
I am going to go and read but I am going to take deep breaths first .
 
I am NOT excusing behavior because this poor young man needed someone to save him, but the guardian was the violent mom’s sister (see upthread). She may be as afraid of her sister as everyone else seemed to be. Or he may have begged to stay with his mama. It’s hard to know how much trauma everyone was experiencing at the hands of this murderer. Jmo
Agreed.

And, Jemiere may not have known just how dangerous the egg donor was until it was too late ?
As in, there may have been previous beatings but shorter in length, and obviously not fatal.
This entire case makes me want to hurl.
Part of the reason that I seldom follow child cases.
:(
Imo.
 

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