Several' bodies found at Mandan, North Dakota business, 1 April 2019 *Arrest*

[NickoD]

Great post....... On Point 2 - It has been posted in a MSM link that Mr. Fakler was talked to/seen by a friend the night before the crime scene was discovered......moo

Are you talking about their sighting at dinner? If so, that was Saturday night.

Linky: 4 bodies found inside Mandan business; police search for kil...

 

[cody22]

Are you talking about their sighting at dinner? If so, that was Saturday night.

Linky: 4 bodies found inside Mandan business; police search for kil...

I stand corrected.... Thank you....moo

 

[cody22]

I wonder in what order the victims arrived on scene ? I still wonder how the killer arrived and left ? Did the killer arrive with one of the victims and then leave in that Company truck ? ....moo

 

[drama_farmer]

Could it be some type of poisoning? Like, in the coffee maker?

 

[NickoD]

I wonder in what order the victims arrived on scene ? I still wonder how the killer arrived and left ? Did the killer arrive with one of the victims and then leave in that Company truck ? ....moo

Excellent point. If they all arrived separately then stabbing is not out of the question at all. You can certainly stab someone to death, wait for the next person to arrive, repeat, etc. Hell, with enough time, you can even use a baseball bat or choke them. We assume that all 4 were together arriving there and at the time of the murder but that might not be the case at all.

 

[MassGuy]

Could it be some type of poisoning? Like, in the coffee maker?

That’s been done, but it generally doesn’t cause instant death.

I think their deaths were bloody.

 

[cody22]

Excellent point. If they all arrived separately then stabbing is not out of the question at all. You can certainly stab someone to death, wait for the next person to arrive, repeat, etc. Hell, with enough time, you can even use a baseball bat or choke them. We assume that all 4 were together arriving there and at the time of the murder but that might not be the case at all.

And the last person/persons they killed was their main target, because then they left in that Company truck or a vehicle that was not in CCTV view ?............moo

 

[Mercedes]

Are you talking about their sighting at dinner? If so, that was Saturday night.

Linky: 4 bodies found inside Mandan business; police search for kil...

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[NickoD]

And the last person/persons they killed was their main target, because then they left in that Company truck or a vehicle that was not in CCTV view ?............moo

Bingo. Once they got their actual intended target there would be no more reason for collateral damage.

BTW, this would match the "rare" nature of the crime, and the public safety sentiment (as misguided as it might be).

 

[dotr]

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[cody22]

Bingo. Once they got their actual intended target there would be no more reason for collateral damage.

BTW, this would match the "rare" nature of the crime, and the public safety sentiment (as misguided as it might be).

Then possibly, Mrs. Fagler is under LE protection because she was also a target that did not come to work that morning with her husband ? The killer would have probably rode to work with Fuerher ( a possible first victim while the killer waited for the owners)??....moo

 

[Mercedes]

I stand corrected.... Thank you....moo

No, Cody, you are not wrong. Post #153 refers to an article which states a woman spoke with Robert F. on Sunday night, and he was in a very cheerful mood.

 

[Inthedetails]

I wonder in what order the victims arrived on scene ? I still wonder how the killer arrived and left ? Did the killer arrive with one of the victims and then leave in that Company truck ? ....moo

That's what I'm wondering. I might be overthinking this, but the reports say LE looked at the neighboring businesses video and didn't see any vehicles from 10pm the previous night until 7am Monday morning. I think I have that right.

Well....when and how did the VICTIMS arrive at the location?

Were they in the office Sunday night??

Perhaps the driver of the truck never entered the office that morning so didn't know anything happened - just simply got into the work truck and left? (That does seem a bit odd...you'd think you check in with someone, but perhaps not).

I definitely want to know when the victims arrived.

jmo

 

[lonetraveler]

Yep. Some employee could have just climbed in their Company truck, driven right to their work site, and never set foot in that building....... Catching whoever did this may be the only way we ever get the details...moo

I totally agree and you posted this before I could get to it. Great minds, you know.

 

[cody22]

No, Cody, you are not wrong. Post #153 refers to an article which states a woman spoke with Robert F. on Sunday night, and he was in a very cheerful mood.

Thank you, but I have been wrong before....I had 16 researched suspects on the Mollie Tibbetts thread and I was wrong on all of them...LOL !...moo

 

[NickoD]

No, Cody, you are not wrong. Post #153 refers to an article which states a woman spoke with Robert F. on Sunday night, and he was in a very cheerful mood.

My turn to stand corrected.

So we could assume the murders took place between Sunday night and Monday morning. I would really love to know the time of their arrival at the office and how they all arrived. Thank you Mercedes!

 

[LietKynes]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed due to rumor>

In multiple deaths I tend to veer towards a male killer.
Silly , as many multiple killers have been women.
Remember Belle Gunness ?

Also thought about some form of carbon monoxide poisoning, but that would require somehow disabling four people and then feeding a hose or exhaust into a room. And we don't know when they died.
When the coroner has finished the autopsies, will he/she make public the tod as well as the cod ?

This post from iNewZ TV supposedly has the 7:41 am LE dispatch. It says cardiac arrest and other persons injured.

If this isn’t a good source then I’ll delete it.

^^^ Good find !

LE must know if it was a landline call or a cellphone call. Still surprised there hasn't been an arrest or at least someone brought in for questioning.
Maybe they have been , and that's why LE aren't saying much ?

They’ll wait until the coroner makes an official determination.

Hopefully that happens later today.

Even then they still might not release it, but in most cases I’ve followed, they do.

Emph. Mine

Re. the bolded bit --That would be nice ! Not holding my breath, though .

 

[LietKynes]

My turn to stand corrected.

So we could assume the murders took place between Sunday night and Monday morning. I would really love to know the time of their arrival at the office and how they all arrived. Thank you Mercedes!

Emph. mine

Agreed !

Since cameras caught the person's truck on Mon. am and the work vehicle leaving, then there's a record of who else arrived earlier or the day/night before ?
Or if it was deleted, maybe the bowling alley that was mentioned upthread ?
Also it's foolish for LE to say there's no danger to the public.
Until they've caught the creep.... then, yes, there's danger and people should be wary.

 

[cody22]

<modsnip: reference to post that was removed>
In multiple deaths I tend to veer towards a male killer.
Silly , as many multiple killers have been women.
Remember Belle Gunness ?

Also thought about some form of carbon monoxide poisoning, but that would require somehow disabling four people and then feeding a hose or exhaust into a room. And we don't know when they died.
When the coroner has finished the autopsies, will he/she make public the tod as well as the cod ?


^^^ Good find !

LE must know if it was a landline call or a cellphone call. Still surprised there hasn't been an arrest or at least someone brought in for questioning.
Maybe they have been , and that's why LE aren't saying much ?


Emph. Mine

Re. the bolded bit --That would be nice ! Not holding my breath, though .

The LE call was probably made by an innocent employee/employees arriving for work and stepping into a murder scene.( most likely) Whether they used the office landline or their own cell phone really doesn't matter. If a wounded dying victim made that call, it really doesn't matter what phone they used, but if the killer made that call........I betcha they used the office landline...... moo..... How did the victims arrive, in what order, and how did the killer arrive and leave is what has me wondering ??...moo

 

[Tillicum]

That's what I'm wondering. I might be overthinking this, but the reports say LE looked at the neighboring businesses video and didn't see any vehicles from 10pm the previous night until 7am Monday morning. I think I have that right.

Well....when and how did the VICTIMS arrive at the location?

Were they in the office Sunday night??

Perhaps the driver of the truck never entered the office that morning so didn't know anything happened - just simply got into the work truck and left? (That does seem a bit odd...you'd think you check in with someone, but perhaps not).

I definitely want to know when the victims arrived.

jmo

Thank you! Thank you! I knew I read no vehicles from 10 PM until 7 AM but when I went back, that had been removed. Just the report of truck arriving at 7 AM and work truck leaving at 7:04 AM.