Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation: a smaller task force will take over...

[wondering1]

Other cases?
I think the Sherriff corrected the "other cases" to "other concerns" - what I heard was something such as: not so much other cases per se, but definitely "other concerns for the Sherriff's office".

My mind immediately went to all the marijuana fields they found in the course of the investigation/searching.

With apologies for my mind. Guess I've been hangin' too long in the parkin' lot. :floorlaugh:

Based on the comments that others reported about the statements at the end of the presser that may no longer be there...do you think he'd get so disgusted by a bunch of weed? That surely can't be something so awful they wish they didn't know about...can it? Even if it was relatively large scale. There are so, so many worse things that LE sees on a daily basis, I would imagine it would take a whole lot more than a little (or even a whole lot) of dope growing for them to get all worked about about, no?

 

[Emma Peel]

Based on the comments that others reported about the statements at the end of the presser that may no longer be there...do you think he'd get so disgusted by a bunch of weed? That surely can't be something so awful they wish they didn't know about...can it? Even if it was relatively large scale. There are so, so many worse things that LE sees on a daily basis, I would imagine it would take a whole lot more than a little (or even a whole lot) of dope growing for them to get all worked about about, no?

I dunno. To be fair, I have come too late to Kyron's news to have seen very end of the initial raw video portion that is edited out that folks are moved by - where Stanton says "know things we didn't want to know" ... the words to that affect...

But this particular comment regarding "other concerns" (that I was THINKING folks were referring to), was not in the context of the emotional ending part folks have been describing. I didn't think Stanton acted that worked up or disgusted at that point - when asked that question during the presser. But just IMO. When he was asked "were the concerns criminal?" He stumbled over saying whether these concerns were criminal or not - "I can't answer that ... at this time". <------not direct quotes, just approximation.

 

[Emma Peel]

TY! I went back and listened and he refers to a possible investigation and/or a potential *notification process to other gov't entities* -- I wonder what he has in mind. I think what they're seeing may be beyond their jurisdiction -- involving other states and/or countries. Maybe that's why it could be an investigation (local) and/or notification (non-local). I'm definitely leaning hard toward child /human trafficking ....ugh, ugh, ugh.

That's right... Other government entities. Thanks! That reminds me, I was also thinking IRS... :angel: Also various drug trafficking... :innocent:

I guess I don't think the things they stumbled upon whilst investigating this case necessarily have to do with Kyron's disappearance. These thinks could simply have to do with the lifestyles of those in Terri's various circle or tree of relationships ... and the circle Kyron was exposed to by Terri...

 

[wondering1]

That's right... Other government entities. Thanks! That reminds me, I was also thinking IRS... :angel: Also various drug trafficking... :innocent:

I guess I don't think the things they stumbled upon whilst investigating this case necessarily have to do with Kyron's disappearance. These thinks could simply have to do with the lifestyles of those in Terri's various circle or tree of relationships ... and the circle Kyron was exposed to by Terri...

The other gov't entities reference is ambiguous, yes. And I also think (agree) there's a small possibility that what LE was led doesn't have anything directly to do with Kyron in particular. But in the context of the whole presser; the agencies and jurisdictions involved in the investigation (especially those that will continue to be involved); the obvious extreme distate for the subject matter of what they've turned up; DY and KH's steadfast conviction that Kyron is alive, i.e., that TH has info about where he is (notably, not that she personally did him the ultimate harm herself); and even DY's expression of utter disgust at the e-mail content she has seen, and we, apparently, have not, strongly lead me to believe we're not talking about a little or a lot of marijuana. Even if we were talking heroin, I wouldn't be convinced. But definitely not marijuana. jmoo.

 

[miabellamoure]

Other cases?
I think the Sherrif corrected the "other cases" to "other concerns" - what I heard was something such as: not so much other cases per se, but definitely "other concerns for the Sherriff's office". Asked if these concerns were criminal, Stanton said he couldn't comment on that ... and then...

My mind immediately went to all the marijuana fields they found in the course of the investigation/searching.

With apologies for my mind. Guess I've been hangin' too long in the parkin' lot. :floorlaugh:

I've always wondered what all goes on in "the parkin' lot"...:floorlaugh:

 

[froginTtown]

I don't think his disguest on his face was about drugs either.. His concern is of a little boy, and while digging they found out a whole lot more, major more... in my opinion..

 

[froginTtown]

I've always wondered what all goes on in "the parkin' lot"...:floorlaugh:

:shocked2: :floorlaugh:

 

[txsvicki]

A number of other cases could result from the investigation. Some of the people they're investigating are doing illegal things. Could be drug sales, theft, child , fraud, child abuse, and even kidnapping if Terri convinced someone to put Kyron in hiding underground. I figure she convinced a group of abuse survivors to hide Kyron underground and they may be charged when this is all over with, but that doesn't account for what it is that LE wishes they didn't know that we'll be suprised about.

 

[cluciano63]

The short story posted on kgw.com comes off as much less optimistic, not sure if it is in the writing or what. It is slanted toward being time to scale back, no longer possible to keep so many detectives on one case.

I'll bet a lot of people were very unhappy with the sheriff today for making this PC necessary. It's pretty clear there was no intent to come out publicly right now. And i'll bet some are not happy with he impression he made, either.

 

[Billylee]

The short story posted on kgw.com comes off as much less optimistic, not sure if it is in the writing or what. It is slanted toward being time to scale back, no longer possible to keep so many detectives on one case.

I'll bet a lot of people were very unhappy with the sheriff today for making this PC necessary. It's pretty clear there was no intent to come out publicly right now. And i'll bet some are not happy with he impression he made, either.

I think you are right about timing. I don't think Sheriff Staton is the most eloquent of men, but I think he's a good one, and most probably a very good sheriff too!

The way he choked up again today, just tells me he takes this case so close to heart, I have nothing but respect for him and his staff at this point. God bless them and for the sometimes horribly dismal tasks they are required to do.

 

[just]

Sheriff refocuses Kyron investigation
A task force will take over the agency’s four-month probe


The sprawling investigation into the June 4 disappearance of then 7-year-old Kyron Horman is being reorganized into a smaller task force, according to Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton.

Staton told the Portland Business Alliance Wednesday morning in downtown Portland that he was confident the case would be solved, but said the time had come to narrow the team of investigators to a small group of officials from a number of law enforcement agencies.

“This case is farther along than most people realize,” Staton told alliance members.

MORE: http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128456956976042700

Gosh I go to the Portland Business meetings and missed this one - ACCKKKK. I have always held onto the belief Kyron was kidnapped and they've figured it out. Oh man, wouldn't that be great? It's so nice to hear him confirm they're alot farther along than people realize. I just hope/pray it's good news and that psycho ginger convinced someone to hold onto Kyron for 'his safety' (quoting by me but assumed she convinced someone of this).

 

[Jade2010]

If it was my child missing, I wouldn't care how much it costs. I just want my child back. I'm sure all of that money has gone to thoroughly investigating this crime and trying to bring Kyron home. They are doing the best they can and shouldn't be criticized so harshly when we don't know the innards the investigation, what they have and don't have. We are lucky we don't have to have to first hand experience with a case like this like KH and DY have to.

I have no problem with them spending as much money as it takes to find Kyron or any child. You are right. Cost does not matter. Three months equals $1 million? I'd still like to take a look at the breakdown.

Also, why the indecision on what to do with the money that was donated to find Kyron to Multnomah? Why isn't the total $1,044,000.00 minus $20,000.00 or whatever they have collected? WHY has he not touched that? Knock it off the amount. That's what it was for.

And Aedrys, not just if MY child were missing but any child. No cost is too high.

 

[Jade2010]

Hey guys. At one part he seems upset for setting aside 15 minutes for a phone call which he says "you're telling me you want me to search a certain part of the woods" or something to that effect and he sounds as though that is a waste of his time.

Isn't that how Caylee Anthony was found? A caller called and said you should check out this certain area? Then someone did go check it, but not thoroughly enough, and then later the tipster went and checked it himself and found her?

 

[just]

I think this presser was particularly interesting because I don't think it was planned and was the result of buzz stemming from Staton's meeting with the Business Alliance - his closing statements were revealing and frightening as to where the investigation is now focusing....

http://www.kgw.com/news/Sheriff-No-evidence-Kyron-Horman-is-not-alive-103003704.html

snipped:
"He said investigators were focusing on selective targets in the case that focus would help "support a conclusion".

IMO, LE has a "conclusion" based on what they have found. But obviously, we do not have Kyron, so now they can focus on this avenue in order to find out what happened to him and hopefully bring him home. After the first few weeks when Kyron went missing, it was constantly stated that TH most likely did not act alone. My personal feeling is that TH passed this poor boy to someone else.

But, if LE has all her phone and computer records, wouldn't they be able to trace these parties? How else would one get in contact with someone to pass a child off??

I have thought all along that TH is very smart in a manipulative type of way - meaning how not to get caught. I think she found someone in person and in person she spoke with them about what to do or through a friend. Slips of paper even. No computers, no phones, no trace. I'm thinking ring, drug ring, sex trafficking, or some huge dirt on an accomplice that they can't come forward. Gosh I wish they could just hang the ginger from her toes and shake it out of her.

 

[froginTtown]

I have no problem with them spending as much money as it takes to find Kyron or any child. You are right. Cost does not matter. Three months equals $1 million? I'd still like to take a look at the breakdown.

Also, why the indecision on what to do with the money that was donated to find Kyron to Multnomah? Why isn't the total $1,044,000.00 minus $20,000.00 or whatever they have collected? WHY has he not touched that? Knock it off the amount. That's what it was for.

I'm hoping that the money they raised will help in an effort to bring down the "underground".. The prominent people, who hide behind their high society positions, and their sick minds... I don't have much money... but I'm sure I can come up with at least $50 for that..

How many times are we going to have to read about high positioned people into child or worse before we bring them down...!! Today would be good..:angel:

 

[BeanE]

I hope they use the money to buy Kaine a new truck.

 

[Trident]

BE CAREFUL OF THE LINK - I just got a heads up from my virus thingee that this file is infected. This is the link in the first post on this thread - it was to a "sex" something or other but my computer protection would not allow it to come up.

 

[BeanE]

BE CAREFUL OF THE LINK - I just got a heads up from my virus thingee that this file is infected. This is the link in the first post on this thread - it was to a "sex" something or other but my computer protection would not allow it to come up.

From the Portland Tribune?

 

[Kat010]

BBM

I posted this on the Presser Thread, but back in July, Staton said in an interview that all of these agencies (Port of Portland, Troutdale, Fairview) were involved (transcript July 2, 2010).

It's a very interesting interview in hindsight and in light of today's press release (scaling back/focus of investigation):

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html

snip/bbm:
"Staton: "The other agencies we've been supported by the Portland Police Bureau, the Port of Portland Police, we've been supported by Troutdale, Fairview, Gresham, Beaverton Police Department, the list goes on ... there's no specific group, we're just on this rotational piece. They'll pull out to get things organized within their own organizations, and other agencies have then brought people into cover for that. It's just been a constant rotation. I can give you a list of agencies, but the agencies are astronomical that have actually stepped up and said, 'We're here.'"

bbm

Good post!

Let's translate that CYA-speak, shall we? First, we've already been given a list of agencies, way back when. Now after the wind-up, the pitch..."the agencies are astronomical" etc. No, they're the normal response to a high-profile missing child case that involves multiple jurisdictions.

He's desperately trying to project an image that while MCSO is scaling back there's tons of other LE filling in, all of a sudden. And did anyone else notice that during the presser he literally snapped that he "did not want" anyone referring to the new actions as "scaling back?" Hey, he doesn't get to dictate statements, opinions, or word usage by non-employees, including media. He was clearly trying to intimidate media, IMHO--I don't want you saying that I'm scaling things back.

No, you're just down-sizing, Sheriff, while worrying about your budget. And your own political profile.

 

[SurfieTX]

From the Portland Tribune?

The same thing happened to me yesterday, and it surprised the heck out of me being that it is the Portland Tribune.