2010.10.14 - Task Force Business Plan

[SurfieTX]

If I'm not mistaken, that's the job of the DA's office, and their own investigators.

Isn't the DA's office working closely with the task force? That's what the MSM articles have alluded to IMO.

 

[BeanE]

Isn't the DA's office working closely with the task force? That's what the MSM articles have alluded to IMO.

The post I was responding to, and my response, were about what the task force members would be doing.

LE and DA offices certainly work closely together, and they even overlap. They are not, however, one and the same. There is a distinction between their purposes in our system.

 

[loves2bmom]

If I'm not mistaken, that's the job of the DA's office, and their own investigators.

Agreed! But wouldn't the task force want to be sure they have everything in order before handing it over "officially" to the DA's office? I'm not sure how it works though.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Fresh perspective = Making sure they aren't missing something where a lawyer could poke holes. Kind of like my kids asking me to double check their homework.
120 Task Force = The amount of time they can ask for before the quarter ends. Doesn't mean that's how much time they'll take...if they need it to get it right, they'll use it. But not indicative of being back to square one.

February 1st = Same as above, justifying funds only


ETA: Just rereading my own post. I don't think they are 100% finished with their homework but have most of it completed and of course, they still need the most important piece of the puzzle...Kyron!

:cow:

I hope the dog doesn't eat their homework before they find the important piece of the puzzle

 

[Billylee]

From the report:

Outcomes for this task force include (to be completed by February 1, 2011):

Determination and assessment of investigation direction
Aggressive pursuit of high priority leads
Assessment and recommendation of further investigative resources needed for investigation
Provide Sheriff with case review and recommended steps and/or strategies to further the investigation
Analysis of total resources allocated for this investigation
Analysis of number of investigative hours completed on this investigation
Assessment of cost associated with ongoing investigation


I've forgotten, this report kind of implies that the task force will begin these tasks October 15, but wasn't there a report that they had already begun work on this case? The aggressive pursuit of high priority leads, makes me wonder if the Task Force was responsible for the last SI searches.

 

[Billylee]

Do we have confirmation that the GJ is still hearing testimony on this case? The last media report sounded to me like they could have been talking in past tense, but I would assume that since this new "business plan" refers to the on going pursuit of leads, that this is in no wrapped up. And apparently there are leads yet to be investigated, which I'd assume could lead to further GJ testimony. Just thinking out loud.

 

[BeanE]

Agreed! But wouldn't the task force want to be sure they have everything in order before handing it over "officially" to the DA's office? I'm not sure how it works though.

LE, the detectives, etc, are not attorneys. Whereas I'm sure over time, they gain knowledge of what will fly and what will not, it's the DA's office, with its attorneys, who determine what they can, and can't, and want to, and don't want to, take into the courtroom and present.

According to a detective friend of mine, LE reaches a point where they think they have what the DA will need/want. They have a meeting with the DA and review it. The DA says "I can use this, and this. I can't use that. I can't use that unless I also have 'x'. But what I really need before I can (charge or go to trial) is a big fat 'y'. Without that, I can't even charge. What I want, what I would like to have, is 'a' or 'b' or 'c'."

You get the idea. LE goes off and tries to find what the DA needs primarily, and what the DA wants hopefully. They have another meeting and review. Same as above.

Eventually, either the DA says, "Okay, I think I can convict on this pile of evidence. We're good to go. Get the warrants and book 'em, Dan-o." Or, if LE just can't find what the DA needs, it becomes a cold case.

One of our verified criminal attorneys could articulate all that much more eloquently that I did, I'm sure. lol.

Right now, to me, it's obvious that the DA has sent LE back to the drawing board, to those 4 binders, to pound the pavements, and find them what they need.

 

[SurfieTX]

From the report:

Outcomes for this task force include (to be completed by February 1, 2011):

Determination and assessment of investigation direction
Aggressive pursuit of high priority leads
Assessment and recommendation of further investigative resources needed for investigation
Provide Sheriff with case review and recommended steps and/or strategies to further the investigation
Analysis of total resources allocated for this investigation
Analysis of number of investigative hours completed on this investigation
Assessment of cost associated with ongoing investigation


I've forgotten, this report kind of implies that the task force will begin these tasks October 15, but wasn't there a report that they had already begun work on this case? The aggressive pursuit of high priority leads, makes me wonder if the Task Force was responsible for the last SI searches.

These 3 assignments/duties of the task force seem directed toward "after the fact", i.e. after the investigation has concluded and arrests have been made.

ETA: Staton did say in his lengthy interview a few months ago that they do a post investigation analysis on many cases to learn how they could have done better in varying areas/stages of a case.

 

[i.b.nora]

There are five people from the Multnomah County District Attorney's Office listed on the Roster of the 2010 Kyron Horman Task Force:

Two Deputy District Attorney Chief Deputies; one Deputy District Attorney; and two District Attorney Investigators.

 

[Billylee]

These 3 assignments/duties of the task force seem directed toward "after the fact", i.e. after the investigation has concluded and arrests have been made.

ETA: Staton did say in his lengthy interview a few months ago that they do a post investigation analysis on many cases to learn how they could have done better in varying areas/stages of a case.

I think you are right, however the line item before those:

Provide Sheriff with case review and recommended steps and/or strategies to further the investigation

indicates, that if this case is not wrapped up by Feb, the TF will provide strategies as to how to "further" proceed in the investigation.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

LE, the detectives, etc, are not attorneys. Whereas I'm sure over time, they gain knowledge of what will fly and what will not, it's the DA's office, with its attorneys, who determine what they can, and can't, and want to, and don't want to, take into the courtroom and present.

According to a detective friend of mine, LE reaches a point where they think they have what the DA will need/want. They have a meeting with the DA and review it. The DA says "I can use this, and this. I can't use that. I can't use that unless I also have 'x'. But what I really need before I can (charge or go to trial) is a big fat 'y'. Without that, I can't even charge. What I want, what I would like to have, is 'a' or 'b' or 'c'."

You get the idea. LE goes off and tries to find what the DA needs primarily, and what the DA wants hopefully. They have another meeting and review. Same as above.

Eventually, either the DA says, "Okay, I think I can convict on this pile of evidence. We're good to go. Get the warrants and book 'em, Dan-o." Or, if LE just can't find what the DA needs, it becomes a cold case.

One of our verified criminal attorneys could articulate all that much more eloquently that I did, I'm sure. lol.

Right now, to me, it's obvious that the DA has sent LE back to the drawing board, to those 4 binders, to pound the pavements, and find them what they need.

I'm poking in to say "spot on" BeanE!

I work in federal LE, so we are always meeting with the AUSA's office (Assistant US Attorney's Office) on cases we want to charge. They review and tell us whether they're interested; whether we've got enough to present for federal grand jury; whether we've got enough for subpoenas, searches, etc. We work with them to determine if we're good to go, or need more, or even if they can prove criminal intent, etc. Just today we were working on a case where one defendant has been federally sentenced, and 3 other suspects/defendants were declined for prosecution.

It can be aggravating at times, but for the most part, we've got a great group that we work with, that DO like to prosecute cases. But their job really is to make sure that if we're going to charge someone, that we've got enough to convict them.

Periodically we'll get involved in a state level case, vs. federal, so we have to work through the DA's office. At least in our district, it takes longer to prosecute at the state level than the federal level.

FWIW.

If the task force is going to be working closely with the DA's office, that's a good thing :innocent:

 

[daisy7]

Assessment review will be completed prior to February 1, 2011. This review will include a written report from the Investigations Lieutenant which will address performance “outcome” measures and review of the “Kyron Horman Case Update Reports” as well as a financial report.

At the end of the 120 day operational period, recommendations will be made regarding the continued use of this task force.

(snip)

http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/i...9152/KHTaskForceBusPlanWallsMedia_release.pdf

February 1 has come and gone and the 120 day business plan ended on Feb. 5th (if I've done my math correctly). So, what is the status of the task force?

 

[Billylee]

Does anyone know if there was a briefing today by MCSO to the commissioners regarding Kyron's case?

 

[cluciano63]

I can't find anything out there about the meeting, or if Kyron's case was mentioned...maybe one of the locals will check in with news...

 

[Billylee]

I went to the MCSO Commissioner's meeting agenda page and there is something about an Executive Meeting being cancelled. I was wondering if that was supposed to do with Kyron's case? Any news pdx?

 

[loves2bmom]

I watched some of the meeting live but missed the first part. Nothing specific about Kyrons case.

Watching the news now and nothing about it. I think PDX already said this but maybe they will meet this week privately and make a statement later. Don't hold your breath though!

 

[pdx]

What I concluded is that:
-I was told that Staton was meeting with the Commissioners this week to brief them.
-Briefings (public) are normally made at the Tuesday meeting.
-Staton & Schrunk (DA) did brief the board today, but not on the Horman investigation.
-The Chair's schedule for the week is posted and does not have Staton or 'Horman' on it.

The Chair was having 'regular briefings' with the Sheriff (that notation was on his schedule previously).

I'm as puzzled/irked as the rest of you. The commissioner for my piece o' land was polite but vague.
I have *never* been told or heard that Staton or anyone would make a statement this week or ever. And, I wonder if the one media report that said that all of the above would happen wasn't from a reporter reading part of my posts. I haven't turned out one other supporting item and if it were not for the personal emails I rc'd, we wouldn't have even known about this much IMO.

Back to waiting on pins n' needles.

Oh, I'm curious.. just got back in and haven't checked around.. I think it was the KATU item that said Desiree had done her Valentine and made her statement on Sunday and that she had an *additional* statement she distributed but asked to be held until Monday (yesterday). I never found a word from her yesterday in the O or the tv stations. Anyone turn anything up?

 

[pinktoes]

If you go to the multnomah county commissioners website and get to the weekly agenda pages, you will come to a clickable link for the weekly agenda packet. You can also pull up all the forms that were submitted by people who wanted to appear before the board. Here's a link to some of the .pdfs for what Staton's business is this week:

http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/WeeklyAgendaPacket/B-1_Briefing Streams of Offenders/

Here's the link to the parent .pdf directory:
http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/WeeklyAgendaPacket/

The cancelled executive session on Tues was not related to MCSO. The form for it is in there too. It does make you wonder if Staton arrived early to chat off the record with Cogen and/or others. It's always convenient for busy people to handle all their business when they're scheduled to get together for something else.

It's hard to wait. But don't you think Staton will keep the content of that report zipped up really tight till he's ready to release it? Or will his favorite MSM reporter get a leak?

 

[pdx]

Or will his favorite MSM reporter get a leak?

From your lips to God's ears, as they say.

Snow in the forecast for the entire coming week; we had big fat flakes this morning (nothing sticking) down at virtual sea level this AM. Expect more at 500' and up.

Although, the sunshine is pouring in my window at the moment.

 

[Counting on Justice]

There is to be a meeting on 2/24/11. To me, it doesn't appear to as hopeful as they were in October 2010 regarding naming a POI. Even though we all know at least one those should be TH.

See PDF for details.

http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/We...ron Horman Case/APR_Kyron Horman Briefing.pdf

Sorry if this is not supposed to be here, but I tried to start a new thread and was informed that I did not have sufficient privileges to do this.