SIDEBAR #17- Arias/Alexander forum

[daisymae]

i always wanted to have them close in age for a lot of reasons, and I know pregnancy is generally (not always) easier and healthier in your 20's and early 30's. twins do run in my family but usually skips a generation. my sister was supposed to be a twin buy my mom miscarried her twin. my only concern is that my son was an emergency c-section in december (they thought the cord was around his neck but he was perfect with both apgars being 9's) and i do NOT want another c-section. my dr told me that b/c i had my daughter vaginally with no issues i'm a perfect candidate for a vbac. I do worry about having 3 or 4 kids in college at the same time but hopefully they will inherit the athleticism in the family and get full scholorships (wishful thinking lol)...my dr told me that my body won't get pregnant again unless it's ready, that c-section did take a toll on me for a good two months but I feel fine now.

here's a pic of my youngest when he was 2 days old complete with the ridiculous Santa hat i got him since he was a december baby:

awww so cute!

 

[Mollyandme]

I had another baby boy (John-Patrick Alexander) in between, but he only lived 4 1/2 hours. It became very difficult for me to have another baby after my first son because of fibroid tumors that I had after I was 30 yrs. old.
Had to stay on bedrest for 8 months to have my last son. :scared: so I had my tubes tied.
So, unless there's a real miracle here, besides reaching menopause and not having sex, no more children for me :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

I love the name John Patrick, when i used to visit relatives in ireland i made friends with a really nice guy there named John Padraig (irish version). i'm sorry for your loss, i can't even imagine

 

[gcharlie]

hey everyone! wiping tears from Zuri's post...hugs to you! I'm going back to school for an accelearted BSN program b/c i have my bachelors in something else already and am very interested in the emergency room or labor and delivery....

speaking of labor and delivery...does anyone here have experience w/having kids close in age? My DH and I would like 4 kids. We currently have a 23 month old and 8 month old so they are 15 months apart. I'm wondering if it's better to just keep going and start trying for another soon or wait longer? I figure since i'm already in the baby stage of everything I mine as well do it all now... theres 3 years between me and all my sibling which was also a decent age gap, I'm 28 now and wanted to be done having kids by 35 at the absolute latest. Any ideas/opinions?

Why don't you just start over and have quadruplets? :floorlaugh:

Seriously, though, I'd recommend you and your husband ask yourselves some questions to help you figure it out. The way that the kids get along with one another has less to do with age and more to do with their personalities and interests, so ultimately it will be what suits you better.

Ask your doctor what are the advantages and disadvantage of different scenarios in terms of your health and those of the babies.

Think about your careers and finances and how they would be impacted. Some women see their jobs as careers and others do not, just as some fields of work are more demanding when it comes to balancing parenthood.

What is your housing situation and how would it fit in with different choices?

How will your lifestyle be affected in different scenarios?

I grew up in a family with five children, DOBs 1955, 1956, 1957, 1960 and 1964. I really enjoyed having siblings so close in age. I basically moved out of the house when I was 17, so the 8 year difference meant that I was not that close with my youngest sister. She is now estranged from the rest of us and feels as if she has never been taken seriously, always being treated like the baby.

Just last week, my dad said that it was unfair for the two youngest sisters to have to share a bedroom because the 4 year age difference was too much.

My sister has four kids; first a daughter, then twin boys born 21 months later and her last son came 9 years after her firstborn. The youngest is now in his second year of college and my sister is so looking forward to having an empty nest. She was a stay at home mom and much of her time was spent chauffeuring the kids to their activities. It was hard on the youngest one during those first few years.

I only have one child. If I could have had more, my choice would have been to have my children about a year apart.

 

[YESorNO]

I love the name John Patrick, when i used to visit relatives in ireland i made friends with a really nice guy there named John Padraig (irish version). i'm sorry for your loss, i can't even imagine

It was very difficult at the time- to hold you baby in your arms and know he will die. It really mess me up for a long time. I think that's when I questioned if there was a God. I couldn't believe this was happening to me. The coffin was so little. I was unconsoleable (sp?)- like a crazy lady. I had waited so long for him and he was gone. Horrible.

 

[Mollyandme]

awww so cute!

thanks! being home with him all day during the winter is actually what brought me to following the Jodi Arias case. I secretly worry that while he was sleeping in his little "rock and play sleeper" (best thing ever!) that he subconciously heard the trial, i hope i didn't traumatize him!

 

[YESorNO]

Why don't you just start over and have quadruplets? :floorlaugh:

Seriously, though, I'd recommend you and your husband ask yourselves some questions to help you figure it out. The way that the kids get along with one another has less to do with age and more to do with their personalities and interests, so ultimately it will be what suits you better.

Ask your doctor what are the advantages and disadvantage of different scenarios in terms of your health and those of the babies.

Think about your careers and finances and how they would be impacted. Some women see their jobs as careers and others do not, just as some fields of work are more demanding when it comes to balancing parenthood.

What is your housing situation and how would it fit in with different choices?

How will your lifestyle be affected in different scenarios?

I grew up in a family with five children, DOBs 1955, 1956, 1957, 1960 and 1964. I really enjoyed having siblings so close in age. I basically moved out of the house when I was 17, so the 8 year difference meant that I was not that close with my youngest sister. She is now estranged from the rest of us and feels as if she has never been taken seriously, always being treated like the baby.

Just last week, my dad said that it was unfair for the two youngest sisters to have to share a bedroom because the 4 year age difference was too much.

My sister has four kids; first a daughter, then twin boys born 21 months later and her last son came 9 years after her firstborn. The youngest is now in his second year of college and my sister is so looking forward to having an empty nest. She was a stay at home mom and much of her time was spent chauffeuring the kids to their activities. It was hard on the youngest one during those first few years.

I only have one child. If I could have had more, my choice would have been to have my children about a year apart.

BBM My in-laws (who are Irish) would call them "Irish twins" :floorlaugh:

 

[daisymae]

It was very difficult at the time- to hold you baby in your arms and know he will die. It really mess me up for a long time. I think that's when I questioned if there was a God. I couldn't believe this was happening to me. The coffin was so little. I was unconsoleable (sp?)- like a crazy lady. I had waited so long for him and he was gone. Horrible.

:heartbeat:
Bless your sweet loving heart.

 

[daisymae]

thanks! being home with him all day during the winter is actually what brought me to following the Jodi Arias case. I secretly worry that while he was sleeping in his little "rock and play sleeper" (best thing ever!) that he subconciously heard the trial, i hope i didn't traumatize him!

A future lawyer? :floorlaugh:

 

[Mollyandme]

Why don't you just start over and have quadruplets? :floorlaugh:

Seriously, though, I'd recommend you and your husband ask yourselves some questions to help you figure it out. The way that the kids get along with one another has less to do with age and more to do with their personalities and interests, so ultimately it will be what suits you better.

Ask your doctor what are the advantages and disadvantage of different scenarios in terms of your health and those of the babies.

Think about your careers and finances and how they would be impacted. Some women see their jobs as careers and others do not, just as some fields of work are more demanding when it comes to balancing parenthood.

What is your housing situation and how would it fit in with different choices?

How will your lifestyle be affected in different scenarios?

I grew up in a family with five children, DOBs 1955, 1956, 1957, 1960 and 1964. I really enjoyed having siblings so close in age. I basically moved out of the house when I was 17, so the 8 year difference meant that I was not that close with my youngest sister. She is now estranged from the rest of us and feels as if she has never been taken seriously, always being treated like the baby.

Just last week, my dad said that it was unfair for the two youngest sisters to have to share a bedroom because the 4 year age difference was too much.

My sister has four kids; first a daughter, then twin boys born 21 months later and her last son came 9 years after her firstborn. The youngest is now in his second year of college and my sister is so looking forward to having an empty nest. She was a stay at home mom and much of her time was spent chauffeuring the kids to their activities. It was hard on the youngest one during those first few years.

I only have one child. If I could have had more, my choice would have been to have my children about a year apart.

my doc has 4 kids..he told me that the biggest change is going from 1 kid to 2 kids, after that he said it's all chaos anyway so it's not that bad. I have heard this from multiple people as well. We have a 4 bedroom house so I'm kinda thinking 3 might be a better number, unless we add on or something. I just know in my heart i will prob want a 4th. My husband was an only child and wants a large family.

I was in social work/legal stuff before I decided to stay home after my youngest but i do want to go back to school for nursing. My dad thinks I should have my kids and then finish my education. I already have a bachelors but in today's world everyone wants a masters degree, it's crazy. I have a tahoe so the car situation is fine. And i'm all about hand me downs, I could care less about the materalistic stuff. Yes, I have a nice stroller, house, car but when it comes to the kids clothes, cribs, etc, they will all be getting hand me downs! Heck, my kids share a high chair right now and the youngest still sleeps in the pack and play I got when I was preggo with my daughter. I figured, why buy a new crib right now when I can wait until my oldest is ready for a toddler bed.

My main concern is college. Sometimes i wish the world could go back to how it was decades ago, when large families were the norm and it was ok for moms to stay home or work part time..day care is so darn expensive!

 

[gcharlie]

Mollyandme:

After rambling on, I reread your post and saw that your question was more about labor and delivery. Oops!

Doctors will tell you that every pregnancy is different just as every labor is different and that one pregnancy does not predict a pattern. So I would still stand by my answer that I gave before in terms of questions for a doctor.

My mother did have complications from having children so fast. Her muscles did not regain their strength and she had a difficult time carrying my youngest sister. Sounds like she wanted to slide down the chute too early. She had a hysterectomy shortly after my sister was born.

My mother did miscarry between the last two children and I doubt that they knew whether it was due to a problem with the fetus or something to do with my mother's health.

 

[Mollyandme]

A future lawyer? :floorlaugh:

yes! i tell him that all the time!!!!!!!! (not that he has any clue what i'm talking about) maybe the irish/german/italian juan martinez!

 

[PrincessSezMe]

It was very difficult at the time- to hold you baby in your arms and know he will die. It really mess me up for a long time. I think that's when I questioned if there was a God. I couldn't believe this was happening to me. The coffin was so little. I was unconsoleable (sp?)- like a crazy lady. I had waited so long for him and he was gone. Horrible.

I can't imagine anything harder to go through than that. My first was an emergency delivery via c-section. His heart rate would go down to practically zero with every contraction I had. He was 6 lbs 1 oz, and blue when he came out. I held my breath until the doctor told me he was going to be okay. :hug:

 

[YESorNO]

Time for more funnies:

Dictionary for Women
Argument (ar*gyou*ment) n. A discussion that occurs when you're right, but he just hasn't realized it yet.
Airhead (er*hed) n. What a woman intentionally becomes when pulled over by a policeman.
Bar-be-que (bar*bi*q) n. You bought the groceries, washed the lettuce, chopped the tomatoes, diced the onions, marinated the meat and cleaned everything up, but, he, "made the dinner."
Blonde jokes (blond joks) n. Jokes that are short so men can understand them.
Cantaloupe (kant*e*lope) n. Gotta get married in a church.
Clothes dryer (kloze dri*yer) n. An appliance designed to eat socks.
Diet Soda (dy*it so*da) n. A drink you buy at a convenience store to go with a half pound bag of peanut M&Ms.
Eternity (e*ter*ni*tee) n. The last two minutes of a football game.
Exercise (ex*er*siz) v. To walk up and down a mall, occasionally resting to make a purchase.
Grocery List (grow*ser*ee list) n. What you spend half an hour writing, then forget to take with you to the store.
Hair Dresser (hare dres*er) n. Someone who is able to create a style you will never be able to duplicate again. See "Magician."
Hardware Store (hard*war stor) n. Similar to a black hole in space-if he goes in, he isn't coming out anytime soon.
Childbirth (child*brth) n. You get to go through 36 hours of contractions; he gets to hold your hand and say "focus, ...breath...push..."
Lipstick (lip*stik) n. On your lips, coloring to enhance the beauty of your mouth. On his collar, coloring only a tramp would wear...!
Park (park) v./n. Before children, a verb meaning, "to go somewhere and neck." After children, a noun meaning a place with a swing set and slide.
Patience (pa*shens) n. The most important ingredient for dating, marriage and children. See also "tranquilizers."
Waterproof Mascara (wah*tr*pruf mas*kar*ah) n. Comes off if you cry, shower, or swim, but will not come off if you try to remove it.
Valentine's Day (val*en*tinez dae) n. A day when you have dreams of a candlelight dinner, diamonds, and romance, but consider yourself lucky to get a card.

Advice For Your Daughters
1. Don't imagine you can change a man - unless he's in diapers.
2. What do you do if your boyfriend walks-out? You shut the door.
3. If they put a man on the moon - they should be able to put them all up there.
4. Never let your man's mind wander - it's too little to be out alone.
5. Go for younger men. You might as well - they never mature anyway.
6. Men are all the same - they just have different faces, so that you can tell them apart.
7. Definition of a bachelor; a man who has missed the opportunity to make some woman miserable.
8. Women don't make fools of men - most of them are the do-it-yourself types.
9. Best way to get a man to do something, is to suggest they are too old for it.
10. Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener.
11. If you want a committed man, look in a mental hospital.
12. The children of Israel wandered around the desert for 40 years. Even in biblical times, men wouldn't ask for directions.
13. If he asks what sort of books you're interested in, tell him checkbooks.
14. Remember a sense of humor does not mean that you tell him jokes, it means that you laugh at his.
15. Sadly, all men are created equal.

Jobs And Sex
Three women are sitting in a bar talking about their love lives. The first one says, "My husband is an architect. When we make love it has power, it has form, it has function. It's incredible!"
The second woman says, "My husband is an artist. When we make love it has passion, it has emotion, it has vision. It's wonderful!"
The third woman sighs and sips her margarita, then says, "My husband works for Microsoft. When we make love, he just sits at the end of the bed and tells me how great it's going to be when it gets here."

50 Years
A couple had been married for 50 years.
They were sitting at the breakfast table one morning when the old gentleman said to his wife, "Just think, honey, we've been married for 50 years."
"Yeah," she replied, "Just think, fifty years ago we were sitting here at this breakfast table together."
"I know," the old man said, "We were probably sitting here naked as jaybirds fifty years ago."
"Well," Granny snickered, "What do you say...should we get naked?"
Whereupon the two stripped to the buff and sat down at the table.
"You know, honey," the little old lady breathlessly replied, "My nipples are as hot for you today as they were fifty years ago."
"I wouldn't be surprised," replied Gramps. "One's in your coffee and the other is in your oatmeal!"

 

[gcharlie]

BBM My in-laws (who are Irish) would call them "Irish twins" :floorlaugh:

My brother and I were called Irish twins. At the six week check up after my brother was born, the doctor gave my mother the thumbs up to resume marital relations. Unbeknownst to Mom, I was made that very day.

Being young and new to the whole business of being a mother, my 21 year old Mom went to the doctor three months after my brother was born, wondering when she would get her period again. She was shocked to learn that it would be quite some time, since she was pregnant again with me!

My brother was born on September 7th and I was born on July 20th of the following year. I used to love being able to tease him for 7 weeks every year that we were the same age.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

Time for more funnies:

50 Years
A couple had been married for 50 years.
They were sitting at the breakfast table one morning when the old gentleman said to his wife, "Just think, honey, we've been married for 50 years."
"Yeah," she replied, "Just think, fifty years ago we were sitting here at this breakfast table together."
"I know," the old man said, "We were probably sitting here naked as jaybirds fifty years ago."
"Well," Granny snickered, "What do you say...should we get naked?"
Whereupon the two stripped to the buff and sat down at the table.
"You know, honey," the little old lady breathlessly replied, "My nipples are as hot for you today as they were fifty years ago."
"I wouldn't be surprised," replied Gramps. "One's in your coffee and the other is in your oatmeal!"

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[Mollyandme]

My brother and I were called Irish twins. At the six week check up after my brother was born, the doctor gave my mother the thumbs up to resume marital relations. Unbeknownst to Mom, I was made that very day.

Being young and new to the whole business of being a mother, my 21 year old Mom went to the doctor three months after my brother was born, wondering when she would get her period again. She was shocked to learn that it would be quite some time, since she was pregnant again with me!

My brother was born on September 7th and I was born on July 20th of the following year. I used to love being able to tease him for 7 weeks every year that we were the same age.

i love Irish twins!!!!!! maybe i'll wait a year and then have Irish twins..you just answered my question for me lol

 

[daisymae]

Time for more funnies:

Dictionary for Women
Argument (ar*gyou*ment) n. A discussion that occurs when you're right, but he just hasn't realized it yet.
Airhead (er*hed) n. What a woman intentionally becomes when pulled over by a policeman.
Bar-be-que (bar*bi*q) n. You bought the groceries, washed the lettuce, chopped the tomatoes, diced the onions, marinated the meat and cleaned everything up, but, he, "made the dinner."
Blonde jokes (blond joks) n. Jokes that are short so men can understand them.
Cantaloupe (kant*e*lope) n. Gotta get married in a church.
Clothes dryer (kloze dri*yer) n. An appliance designed to eat socks.
Diet Soda (dy*it so*da) n. A drink you buy at a convenience store to go with a half pound bag of peanut M&Ms.
Eternity (e*ter*ni*tee) n. The last two minutes of a football game.
Exercise (ex*er*siz) v. To walk up and down a mall, occasionally resting to make a purchase.
Grocery List (grow*ser*ee list) n. What you spend half an hour writing, then forget to take with you to the store.
Hair Dresser (hare dres*er) n. Someone who is able to create a style you will never be able to duplicate again. See "Magician."
Hardware Store (hard*war stor) n. Similar to a black hole in space-if he goes in, he isn't coming out anytime soon.
Childbirth (child*brth) n. You get to go through 36 hours of contractions; he gets to hold your hand and say "focus, ...breath...push..."
Lipstick (lip*stik) n. On your lips, coloring to enhance the beauty of your mouth. On his collar, coloring only a tramp would wear...!
Park (park) v./n. Before children, a verb meaning, "to go somewhere and neck." After children, a noun meaning a place with a swing set and slide.
Patience (pa*shens) n. The most important ingredient for dating, marriage and children. See also "tranquilizers."
Waterproof Mascara (wah*tr*pruf mas*kar*ah) n. Comes off if you cry, shower, or swim, but will not come off if you try to remove it.
Valentine's Day (val*en*tinez dae) n. A day when you have dreams of a candlelight dinner, diamonds, and romance, but consider yourself lucky to get a card.

Advice For Your Daughters
1. Don't imagine you can change a man - unless he's in diapers.
2. What do you do if your boyfriend walks-out? You shut the door.
3. If they put a man on the moon - they should be able to put them all up there.
4. Never let your man's mind wander - it's too little to be out alone.
5. Go for younger men. You might as well - they never mature anyway.
6. Men are all the same - they just have different faces, so that you can tell them apart.
7. Definition of a bachelor; a man who has missed the opportunity to make some woman miserable.
8. Women don't make fools of men - most of them are the do-it-yourself types.
9. Best way to get a man to do something, is to suggest they are too old for it.
10. Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener.
11. If you want a committed man, look in a mental hospital.
12. The children of Israel wandered around the desert for 40 years. Even in biblical times, men wouldn't ask for directions.
13. If he asks what sort of books you're interested in, tell him checkbooks.
14. Remember a sense of humor does not mean that you tell him jokes, it means that you laugh at his.
15. Sadly, all men are created equal.

Jobs And Sex
Three women are sitting in a bar talking about their love lives. The first one says, "My husband is an architect. When we make love it has power, it has form, it has function. It's incredible!"
The second woman says, "My husband is an artist. When we make love it has passion, it has emotion, it has vision. It's wonderful!"
The third woman sighs and sips her margarita, then says, "My husband works for Microsoft. When we make love, he just sits at the end of the bed and tells me how great it's going to be when it gets here."

50 Years
A couple had been married for 50 years.
They were sitting at the breakfast table one morning when the old gentleman said to his wife, "Just think, honey, we've been married for 50 years."
"Yeah," she replied, "Just think, fifty years ago we were sitting here at this breakfast table together."
"I know," the old man said, "We were probably sitting here naked as jaybirds fifty years ago."
"Well," Granny snickered, "What do you say...should we get naked?"
Whereupon the two stripped to the buff and sat down at the table.
"You know, honey," the little old lady breathlessly replied, "My nipples are as hot for you today as they were fifty years ago."
"I wouldn't be surprised," replied Gramps. "One's in your coffee and the other is in your oatmeal!"

Love these! You're hysterical. LOL

Told you that you were missed ... look at the gang here tonight!

 

[Mollyandme]

oh and another instance of how neurotic i am! my sons bday is the same date they found caylee anthony and my husbands bday is the same day she was last seen. i was preg w/my daughter during that case, and secretly worried i was corrupting her in the womb by watching it! my husband thinks im nuts lol, i just have a weird thing about dates

 

[Mollyandme]

:scared:

Love these! You're hysterical. LOL

Told you that you were missed ... look at the gang here tonight!

i love the bbq definition..that is literally everynight in our house this summer. I make the best marinades, get everything in the big ziploc bags, put it in the fridge, prep/marinade the veggies which we also grill, but hubby gets all the credit. If anyone likes spicy chicken, I highly recommend you google the recipe for "cherry bomb chicken" it's amazing!

 

[Mollyandme]

where is Zuri? i feel like she is needed in here tonight!