SIDEBAR #24- Arias/Alexander forum

[Nore]

I am really frustrated with the tone on the JS trial. IMO, the only people who weren't victims were the Doctors that didn't keep JS's husband in the loop, get her titled out, and monitor her medication.

I know WS is victim friendly, but JS is just as much a victim of a total lack of medical professionalism. She should have been institutionalized the moment she said "suicide" at any time. The VERY MOMENT. Depressed and in bed for weeks? Institutionalized. I will continue to blame the Dr.s unless something substantial comes up.

The death penalty is off the table, more than likely because the Pros knew with her mental history, they weren't going to get it. THAT says VOLUMES.

Yes, it's horrible, those poor children and husband, but labeling JS evil, self absorbed, etc., is a bit too much.
Bipolar with psychotic features is a horrible mental illness. Many DO self medicate with alcohol, many DO dis-connect, many DO have altered states of reality..........etc, etc.

Urgh, just ranting.

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Hi Bernina, I was to the Dr. today. I signed a paper giving him permission to speak, discuss my case with members of my family. She is crazy like a fox..:seeya:

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Happy Cinco de Mayo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGI_E8z6o2Y&feature=player_detailpage

and in North Texas we have a nice wind from Oklahoma where the winds go sweeping down the plains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpNeHMlJiD4&feature=player_detailpage


and you can smell the smoke from the fires up in Guthrie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wCWVuCCWqzQ

 

[Kensie]

JA/TA story is on Snapped right now. Rot in hell JA.

Ha!! They just said JA could not keep a job. Well she will keep some type of job in prison.

 

[Kensie]

Hey Nore!!!

 

[Bernina]

My mother had DT.'s when she stopped drinking, in hospital..she was no where as bad as J.S. but didnt do drugs, just alky!!!

*Respectfully snipped by me*
JS has/had a condition called "Tardive dyskinesia" caused in some cases by specific medications.
Here's a mini symptom list:Tardive dyskinesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Tardive dyskinesia is characterized by repetitive, involuntary, purposeless movements. Some examples of these types of involuntary movements include:
Grimacing
Tongue movements
Lip smacking
Lip puckering
Pursing of the lips
Excessive eye blinking"

Her condition has improved somewhat because her medication has been changed.

I haven't heard anything about LE giving her a breathalyzer or BAC from blood drawn at the hospital. But then she was at the police station for quite a while. Also wonder what other meds she "had on board" on when she was found.

 

[Kensie]

I am so tired and have a busy work day tomorrow but here I am watching this Snapped episode again and spewing my disgust for JA.

 

[Spellbound]

Bernina, thank you for sharing that about your husband's behaviors. it must have been a difficult and sad time for you. :hug:

I think we may have a tough case with JS. Understanding severe mental illness is sometimes nearly incomprehensible for those who have not seen it first-hand. I am trying to not pass judgment on her and finding that to be hard.

Nore, I sure hope your diagnosis is at least a relief in knowing what the cause of the pain is. Crossed my fingers that the new med routine will be helpful. Sciatica hurts! (so sorry about your car. :cry: )

everyone, have a good Tuesday!

 

[Bernina]

Spellbound, and others, I can totally understand where you are coming from. I'm just letting the presumption of innocence hang there. :fence: And I could be very, VERY wrong. I hope not........
I had similar feelings about the A. Yates trial.

But..........we can all agree that JA milking the whole "Mental Disorder", PTSD, DV, for everything it's worth! :floorlaugh:

 

[Nore]

Bernina, thank you for sharing that about your husband's behaviors. it must have been a difficult and sad time for you. :hug:

I think we may have a tough case with JS. Understanding severe mental illness is sometimes nearly incomprehensible for those who have not seen it first-hand. I am trying to not pass judgment on her and finding that to be hard.

Nore, I sure hope your diagnosis is at least a relief in knowing what the cause of the pain is. Crossed my fingers that the new med routine will be helpful. Sciatica hurts! (so sorry about your car. :cry: )

everyone, have a good Tuesday!

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Hi Spellbound. I also think this is a difficult case, moreso than some others. I didnt realize there was a problem with my mom until later. I am sure now that she was Bi Polar. They ae very difficult to live with and changeable as day and night. I think we will get a better picture when witnesses start taking the stand.......Thanks for your kind words on my health. Yes I was relieved to hear sciatica! I was afraid for my hip, sometimes it feels as if it is coming from my hip. It isnt hhurting as much as it did so maybe it is going away. I did work around the house today, hope I dont suffer for it...Getting back to J.S. I think she had a hard time coping with husband being gone often. Between that and an obvious mental problem she couldnt handle life. I do feel her husband shouldhave had someone ith her when he was gone. We will soon find out..:loveyou:

 

[daisymae]

Please- just call me Y/N for short or maybe YoYo as daisy likes to call me. :floorlaugh:

Guilty as charged, YoYo. :floorlaugh:

I've been visiting a friend whose daughter is in town with a new 9 week old baby boy and had such a nice time with him. Elliott is his name.

I need a baby.

 

[Spellbound]

Worked out on the yard most of the day, digging loads of dandelions. Winter didn't hurt those buggers one bit. missed most of JS today, but caught most of hubby on the stand. I just feel so badly for him. Did he really cry on the stand? I didn't see that---he seemed quite composed and I assume he relied on his military training.

Have a nice evening everyone. off to shower and fix dinner soon.

 

[YESorNO]

Happy Cinco de Mayo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGI_E8z6o2Y&feature=player_detailpage

and in North Texas we have a nice wind from Oklahoma where the winds go sweeping down the plains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpNeHMlJiD4&feature=player_detailpagequote]


and you can smell the smoke from the fires up in Guthrie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wCWVuCCWqzQ

ILTBP

See that "s" in the "https" on the Oklahoma video in the Ytube address-

Get rid of it after you post on the thread and the video will show up on your post:


Sooner's Musical OKLAHOMA! - R&H's Oklahoma! 1955 - YouTube

Try it and see if it works for you. :seeya:

 

[YESorNO]

JA/TA story is on Snapped right now. Rot in hell JA.

Ha!! They just said JA could not keep a job. Well she will keep some type of job in prison.

I hope she's in solitary confinement, so she can be by herself, have only herself to "talk" to, and think about the rest of her "Bella Vita" - oh, sorry- wrong murderer :floorlaugh: miserable life. :behindbar:

:bricks:

 

[YESorNO]

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Hi Spellbound. I also think this is a difficult case, moreso than some others. I didnt realize there was a problem with my mom until later. I am sure now that she was Bi Polar. They ae very difficult to live with and changeable as day and night. I think we will get a better picture when witnesses start taking the stand.......Thanks for your kind words on my health. Yes I was relieved to hear sciatica! I was afraid for my hip, sometimes it feels as if it is coming from my hip. It isnt hhurting as much as it did so maybe it is going away. I did work around the house today, hope I dont suffer for it...Getting back to J.S. I think she had a hard time coping with husband being gone often. Between that and an obvious mental problem she couldnt handle life. I do feel her husband shouldhave had someone ith her when he was gone. We will soon find out..:loveyou:

Do you think JS will take the stand??? Probably not, since the defense says she's coo-coo, IMO. :facepalm:

I can't wait for the MDs to be paraded on.

Don't do so much, Nore. Let the others wait on you- you know like a :takeabow: ,:dramaqueen:, :floorlaugh:

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

ILTBP

See that "s" in the "https" on the Oklahoma video in the Ytube address-

Get rid of it after you post on the thread and the video will show up on your post:


Sooner's Musical OKLAHOMA! - R&H's Oklahoma! 1955 - YouTube

Try it and see if it works for you. :seeya:

I am in your debt. I cursty before you,


Dido- Thank You + Lyrics - YouTube

 

[YESorNO]

Guilty as charged, YoYo. :floorlaugh:

I've been visiting a friend whose daughter is in town with a new 9 week old baby boy and had such a nice time with him. Elliott is his name.

I need a baby.

You need a baby!! :shocked2:

:baby: Not if you have to take care of it 24 hours a day- for the rest of your life.
I need to be a grandma, where I can play with the dear for a while and then give the dear back to his/her parents. Ahhhhh. :floorlaugh:

 

[YESorNO]

Worked out on the yard most of the day, digging loads of dandelions. Winter didn't hurt those buggers one bit. missed most of JS today, but caught most of hubby on the stand. I just feel so badly for him. Did he really cry on the stand? I didn't see that---he seemed quite composed and I assume he relied on his military training.

Have a nice evening everyone. off to shower and fix dinner soon.

I don't know if PS cried, but that's what they tweeted. I'm sure his "military" demeanor can't be easy to maintain when it comes to having to relive his children's death. I also missed today as I had other things to do, but I read all the tweets from here:

https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=#scheneckertrial&src=hash

and on our thread, so I was able to catch up. Popsicle and Zoey had other tweets, so I wanted to read them also- for the different views.

 

[Nore]

Do you think JS will take the stand??? Probably not, since the defense says she's coo-coo, IMO. :facepalm:

I can't wait for the MDs to be paraded on.

Don't do so much, Nore. Let the others wait on you- you know like a :takeabow: ,:dramaqueen:, :floorlaugh:

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Hi YESorNO, they do wwait on me, never had sso much help in all my life. Honest I'm getting spoiled. Johnny was working on my car today. Has it half done. He's a sweetie!! Yea the Dr.s will be something to hear..gotta look up Dads testimony, I didnt have it on today..:HHJP:

 

[Zuri]

Daisy, my fun flower, so happy for you and your new baby! What is your baby's name and does the baby look like you? This is very exciting!

 

[YESorNO]

Spellbound, and others, I can totally understand where you are coming from. I'm just letting the presumption of innocence hang there. :fence: And I could be very, VERY wrong. I hope not........
I had similar feelings about the A. Yates trial.

But..........we can all agree that JA milking the whole "Mental Disorder", PTSD, DV, for everything it's worth! :floorlaugh:

I'm starting to see a lot of, how can I put this and not judge here---"bickering"- I don't know- on the thread about mental illness. It makes me uncomfortable to be there. I know some people have had experiences with mental illnesses and it tends to make the trial become, sort of, personal there.

I don't have much experience with MI, but my X-DIL was diagnosed with borderline schizophrenia. When my older son met her, she was about 19 yrs old and then after some time- maybe 2 yrs- he came to me and said he wanted to marry her (she was not diagnosed at this time). I told him I saw something just "not right" with her (that's another story) and I didn't want him to marry her. BUT- he loved her, he said, and maybe it's just that I don't like her.

So, because I love my son, we made a nice, little wedding for them- they married at City hall. She didn't have many relatives- just a father and a uncle (was estranged from her mother), who attended. I gave her my wedding dress to wear, my pearls (with a diamond clasp) that my mother had given me when I graduated from HS, and my crown ring that my was my mother's. I decided that I would support my son and hope for the best.

Well- after about 6-7 months, my son called me one day and told me he was going thru a very bad time with her (I won't go into all the things). He would like to come stay with us because of his wife, who needed looking after while he worked at his business. She was a mess. After a week or so, after an incident, I said we need to take her to the psych hospital. She didn't want to go, but I was adamant and wouldn't take no for an answer (I'm like that :facepalm.

We waited 10 hours to see a MD and when the MD said they wanted to admit her, she said NO. Well, I started to yell at her- in front of the MD (they could have admitted me then :facepalm The MD said nothing to me while I yelled - "If you think I waited 10 hours to get you some help and you're not wanting that help, you must think me a fool. If you were my daughter, you would have been admitted weeks ago." She then relented and agreed. But, she signed herself out after 2 days. She didn't want to take the meds prescribed. My son wanted to leave her, but I said he can't do that- "she's your wife now". I suggested that he give her an ultimatum- to take the pills or he would leave her. She took the pills (for a while).

After 10-12 years of living with her, he just couldn't do it anymore. All the stress she caused (and I mean some weird things she did, thoughts she had and not taking her meds, accusing people of being devils, spying on her, etc.- really nutty things!)- she put him thru loopy-loops. He just needed to let her go, so they divorced, even tho' he said he still loved her.

But dope that I am, since she didn't have relatives, I took her in, so she could get her life in order. Needless to day, that didn't work, so I found her an apartment close to me. My son gave her a very good settlement/alimony and has even paid her more- 4 years more in alimony when he didn't have to, in addition to paying all her bills, too.

Now she doesn't talk to me. After 4 years of trying to support her and while talking on the phone, I had said that my son was moving on, just as she was moving on. She didn't like what I said and told me that she wasn't going to talk to me anymore and she hung up on me (she was always hanging up on me). She was dating- or trying to date , so she was moving on, IMO. I haven't spoken to her since- better for me because she stressed me so.

Well, that's my experience in MI and I hated it, especially for my son. He has changed so much as a person because of his experiences with her. Sometimes I don't recognize him. But now he has met such a wonderful girl- I love her so.
:loveyou: They have been together for 4 years now and I'm waiting for them to get married, so I can be a grandma before I die, God willing. :facepalm:

Anyway- I do not want the stress of having to read "bickering" amongst the WSers on the thread. It disturbs me so.

(and I've rambled on again :floorlaugh