SIDEBAR #25- Arias/Alexander forum

[neesaki]

Guess I've gotten lost in other threads and didn't realize the "side bar" was at thread # 25.......OMG.
The monsoon started here the 30th of June........it's just wonderful! Already pulled 2 of our trucks out of #1. Slick as snot mud, and #2. Dry wash with a flash flood of a height of 2 1/2 feet. It's an ADVENTURE!!!!!:happydance:
Killed our first rattler a few days ago. My son has seen many more at his place, but doesn't want to dispatch them, just hoping his "snake sense" doesn't get the best of him. *OK, you guys banned me from posting snake pics, so I'll just put this: :snake:
*Think* I have a tentative due date for Kissy, the horse, September 8th. Just figuring in the moon phases (full moon that night) and her Royal Fatness's appearance.

Weirdness yesterday. My little brother got a call from the Swedish Hospital Social Services in Washington. Seems our "father" is in end stage dementia, on a 30 second loop saying someone in the family is out to get him. Social Services is contacting his children before giving end care over to his boyfriend, guess they didn't get married. My lil' bro was the only sibling with a public contact phone number. All the rest of us have changed our phone numbers specifically because of not wanting contact with "dad'.
I have had no contact with "dad" for about 18 years. He's 78...........
And I feel absolutely nothing.
My son got me to call last night out of his concern for medical history and anything that might be genetically pre-disposed for him or any future children. I talked to a nurse who's 2nd language is English........seriously, why do hospitals hire people who can't communicate with the public at large?
So I got the name of the Dr. handling "dad's" case, and left my name and number for a call back this morning.
I guess the humanitarian thing would be to make sure he signed a DNR and Medical Power of Attorney, or whatever it's called, and if he didn't, sign it for him.
I figured I wouldn't feel anything.........it's just weird that that's actually what I feel now that it's here.
It's kind of a tragic commentary that a man looses his mind in his later years, needs care, and none of his 4 children and 1 foster child could care less. But you reap what you sow. Sucks to be him.
In my entire lifetime, he said he loved me only once, and that was under duress. The last time I talked and hung up on him, I told him he was a piss poor excuse for a father and he'd die a lonely old man.......
My lil' bro says I'm just too prophetic.

I envy any of you who had a good family life growing up, but I have no idea what it would be like. I know what it's like to be a mother and love my children, but I don't know what it's like to have loving parents. Won't ever have it. :sigh:

Oh, Bernina, I can totally understand how you can be so disconnected from your father. I remember idolizing my father until about the age of 7 or 8, after that I can't remember much of anything good about him at all. He was a harsh, cruel, stingy, self centered tyrant with a rage disorder, and we were subjected to his daily rages, verbal abuse and belittling of our mother, and of us. We would all just cower, including my mother, and hold our breaths waiting for it to pass.

Yes, I totally agree with Dr. Laura Schlesinger , that just because a man is a "sperm donor" does not make him a "father".

Sadly, my mother was too meak and sweet to withstand his abuse and remain emotionally well, so she became little more than a shadow during the last 10 years of my childhood, which made it even worse for us. I felt like nothing more than an abused indentured servant . I remember him sending me and my sister out to the pea fields in 100 degree weather, I was 8 or 9 years old. Got sick from the heat, and my uncle laughed, thought I was just making it up to get out of picking peas. Funny thing, my uncle didn't have his daughter, my cousin, who was a year older than me, out there.
I have to remember to forgive my father almost daily, some days it's next to impossible. Not that I believe that he's even capable of ever admitting he was wrong about anything, much less ask for forgiveness. Just something else I have to accept. I realize that the forgiveness is for myself, not for him at this point. Oh, he has finally learned that he can't get away with his harsh temper tantrums and cruel criticisms, or we, or at least I, have no problem completely ignoring him and shutting him out of my life. So these days, he's just all about manipulation, a little sad and pitiful to watch because I can see through him, but at least it makes it possible for me to be in his company, even if only for occasional and limited periods of time.
As you, I have always envied those who had caring, nurturing parents that made them feel safe and loved. What I did get though, is the determination to give to my own child what I never had, which I am very grateful for.

 

[josie1986]

Just dropping by to say hey.

I miss you all.

And I just want to convey my utter despise for working out :floorlaugh:


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[Spellbound]

:hug: = Bernina
:hug: = Neesaki


It always amazes me how some of the kindest people came from sad beginnings. I guess that is why I always hate when a criminal's defense is based on poor parenting. I say, Rise above it and make something better for yourselves and the following generations!

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

If y'all don't mind, please add Officer Ann McSwain in your prayers. She was chasing a man and he ran into a Wingstop and poured gasoline all over him and her and set himself on fire yesterday afternoon.

Her husband worked for my husband about ten years ago. They are some mighty fine people.


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[Nore]

Oh, Bernina, I can totally understand how you can be so disconnected from your father. I remember idolizing my father until about the age of 7 or 8, after that I can't remember much of anything good about him at all. He was a harsh, cruel, stingy, self centered tyrant with a rage disorder, and we were subjected to his daily rages, verbal abuse and belittling of our mother, and of us. We would all just cower, including my mother, and hold our breaths waiting for it to pass.

Yes, I totally agree with Dr. Laura Schlesinger , that just because a man is a "sperm donor" does not make him a "father".

Sadly, my mother was too meak and sweet to withstand his abuse and remain emotionally well, so she became little more than a shadow during the last 10 years of my childhood, which made it even worse for us. I felt like nothing more than an abused indentured servant . I remember him sending me and my sister out to the pea fields in 100 degree weather, I was 8 or 9 years old. Got sick from the heat, and my uncle laughed, thought I was just making it up to get out of picking peas. Funny thing, my uncle didn't have his daughter, my cousin, who was a year older than me, out there.
I have to remember to forgive my father almost daily, some days it's next to impossible. Not that I believe that he's even capable of ever admitting he was wrong about anything, much less ask for forgiveness. Just something else I have to accept. I realize that the forgiveness is for myself, not for him at this point. Oh, he has finally learned that he can't get away with his harsh temper tantrums and cruel criticisms, or we, or at least I, have no problem completely ignoring him and shutting him out of my life. So these days, he's just all about manipulation, a little sad and pitiful to watch because I can see through him, but at least it makes it possible for me to be in his company, even if only for occasional and limited periods of time.
As you, I have always envied those who had caring, nurturing parents that made them feel safe and loved. What I did get though, is the determination to give to my own child what I never had, which I am very grateful for.

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Oh neesaki I know! Same here. Same thoughts toward my child. I am so grateful also. I did tell him off though, after my son died.
He called, sad I should hae called him. He would have gone to the funeral home!! I said WHY? you couldn't visit him when alive, why bother when he's in a box.
Last time I spoke to him. My stepdad was my Daddy. Lost him in ww11...Hang in there.:loveyou:

 

[Spellbound]

If y'all don't mind, please add Officer Ann McSwain in your prayers. She was chasing a man and he ran into a Wingstop and poured gasoline all over him and her and set himself on fire yesterday afternoon.

Her husband worked for my husband about ten years ago. They are some mighty fine people.


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Prayers coming. What an awful situation. I hope she did not get burned badly, too, and will recover.

Was the link to an article? it only gave me a blank Google Search page.
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Never mind. I googled her name and found out she was critically burned. I am so, so sorry and sad. My prayers will be for her comfort and recovery. The pain must be horrible. I also saw that she was the department's Officer of the Year in 2013. Bless her for all she has done.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Officer-set-on-fire-at-Cedar-Hill-Wingstop--266484021.html

 

[YESorNO]

Unseasonable summer lows coming to U.S. next week:

"Forecasters say polar air from the Arctic Ocean is expected to arrive in Canada and the United States next week, bringing unseasonably cool temperatures to the eastern half of the country. Temperatures in Chicago will top out in the low 70s by midweek, making it seem like mid-September rather than mid-July. Compare Wednesday's forecasted high — 72 degrees — with the temperature on July 16, 2013: 93 degrees.

Similarly comfortable temperatures are expected as far south as Texas, part of what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association calls a "backward trajectory" of air..."

http://news.yahoo.com/polar-vortex-summer-161653514.html

It was very cool today and finally the storms are all gone.
(My computer has been very slow today.)

 

[YESorNO]

Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
7/7/2014 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 7/10/2014
NOTE: TO INTERVENE WITH NEWLY DISCOVERED WITHHELD EVIDENCE AMICUS CURALE BRIEF
6/30/2014 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 7/9/2014
NOTE: DEFENDANTS REQUEST

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

New evidence? :thinking:

And what is a AMICUS CURALE BRIEF? Anyone know?

My internet won't let me Google.

I have the definition now:

"Definition: Latin term meaning "friend of the court". The name for a brief filed with the court by someone who is not a party to the case..
....a phrase that literally means "friend of the court" -- someone who is not a party to the litigation, but who believes that the court's decision may affect its interest."

http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/amicus.htm

"Use of an Amicus Brief
An amicus curiae submits a written essay to a court, called an amicus brief, that provides the judges with new information or a different perspective from what the parties provided to the judge.

An amicus brief might contain:
citations to obscure cases that are relevant to the dispute at bar,
discussion of either
cases in foreign jurisdictions or
scholarly articles
that may persuade the judge,
factual information not presented by the parties at trial, or
public policy statements (e.g., stating the effect on professionals of a particular ruling for/against the plaintiff in the case at bar; stating the impact of a ruling on industry practice).

The attorney who prepares the amicus brief usually represents either a:
nonprofit organization (e.g., a professional society, trade association, public interest group),
corporation,
government, or
a party in another case with similar issues of law..."

http://www.rbs2.com/amicus.htm
_________________________________________________

Who is this "friend of the court" and what is this new evidence???

More :drama:

 

[daisymae]

Unseasonable summer lows coming to U.S. next week:

"Forecasters say polar air from the Arctic Ocean is expected to arrive in Canada and the United States next week, bringing unseasonably cool temperatures to the eastern half of the country. Temperatures in Chicago will top out in the low 70s by midweek, making it seem like mid-September rather than mid-July. Compare Wednesday's forecasted high — 72 degrees — with the temperature on July 16, 2013: 93 degrees.

Similarly comfortable temperatures are expected as far south as Texas, part of what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association calls a "backward trajectory" of air..."

http://news.yahoo.com/polar-vortex-summer-161653514.html

It was very cool today and finally the storms are all gone.
(My computer has been very slow today.)

I will certainly enjoy cooler days down here. It's very hot. Thanks Yoyo!

 

[Kensie]

Hey Daisy, I sent you an email this past Monday.

This summer is cooler compared to previous years. Have not hit over 90 yet. Tons of rain and the grass is so green.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Prayers coming. What an awful situation. I hope she did not get burned badly, too, and will recover.

Was the link to an article? it only gave me a blank Google Search page.
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Never mind. I googled her name and found out she was critically burned. I am so, so sorry and sad. My prayers will be for her comfort and recovery. The pain must be horrible. I also saw that she was the department's Officer of the Year in 2013. Bless her for all she has done.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Officer-set-on-fire-at-Cedar-Hill-Wingstop--266484021.html

She was also Rookie of the year in 2007. She and her husband are just really nice people, and something like this should never happen to them.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
7/7/2014 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 7/10/2014
NOTE: TO INTERVENE WITH NEWLY DISCOVERED WITHHELD EVIDENCE AMICUS CURALE BRIEF
6/30/2014 SDO - Order to Seal Documents - Party (001) 7/9/2014
NOTE: DEFENDANTS REQUEST

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

New evidence? :thinking:

And what is a AMICUS CURALE BRIEF? Anyone know?

My internet won't let me Google.

I have the definition now:

"Definition: Latin term meaning "friend of the court". The name for a brief filed with the court by someone who is not a party to the case..
....a phrase that literally means "friend of the court" -- someone who is not a party to the litigation, but who believes that the court's decision may affect its interest."

http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/amicus.htm

"Use of an Amicus Brief
An amicus curiae submits a written essay to a court, called an amicus brief, that provides the judges with new information or a different perspective from what the parties provided to the judge.

An amicus brief might contain:
citations to obscure cases that are relevant to the dispute at bar,
discussion of either
cases in foreign jurisdictions or
scholarly articles
that may persuade the judge,
factual information not presented by the parties at trial, or
public policy statements (e.g., stating the effect on professionals of a particular ruling for/against the plaintiff in the case at bar; stating the impact of a ruling on industry practice).

The attorney who prepares the amicus brief usually represents either a:
nonprofit organization (e.g., a professional society, trade association, public interest group),
corporation,
government, or

a party in another case with similar issues of law..."

http://www.rbs2.com/amicus.htm

_________________________________________________

Who is this "friend of the court" and what is this new evidence???

More :drama:

I don't see any of the above wanting to have Jodi as poster child.

Hmmm who else would be facing or wanting their guilty and/or death sentence over turned? I wonder who'd she'll aligned herself with?

 

[daisymae]

Replied to it.

It's been in the high 90's here, Kensie, with not much rain.

 

[josie1986]

So who posted that motion,juan or jodi


Mega confused


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[josie1986]

Double post


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[zoey]

Im enjoying that my temps will be in 90s!!!!! I may regret that since I don't have a/c but ... Seattle will have sun!!!!

 

[Niner]

California has a new slogan regarding watering your lawns: The grass isn't brown... It's Gold... Gold is the new Green! We don't have grass in the front, just dead leaves and rocks! LOL!

I'm sorry to hear that some of you did not have loving parents. Fortunately, I did! I can't even imagine living like that - bless you all!

Suppose to be about 84 today - perfect! But no rain!

Take care everyone! :wave:

 

[YESorNO]

So who posted that motion,juan or jodi


Mega confused


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No- it couldn't have been either one of them.
It's from someone who is "not a party to the litigation" according to this YTube:

[video=youtube;fZbNZgNzqxI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZbNZgNzqxI&list=PLetb2B_jWhJUkYye44W1iuy4n--eX60OC[/video]

Maybe it's that GeeBee (George Barwood from England, who, by the way, according to him, didn't really follow the trial , but really knows that missy :jail: murdered Travis in "self-defense"(another) :slap:- the person Vinnie interviewed and a missy :jail: supporter) . He a staunch supporter of her.

There is also another supporter that I found when I researched her supporters, who says she has new "evidence", also- so who knows.

Could be anyone, I guess, but I'm interested in what the " newly discovered withheld evidence" is. :thinking:

We'll never know until the retrial is over (unless someone will be tweeting from the courtroom).

(I want to know what the "new" mitigations are, too :gaah

 

[josie1986]

That's odd....

Zoey I'd would literally die in that heat. It's about 50 here and I want to cry I am so warm :floorlaugh:

I am not conditioned for heat,I much prefer winter,easier to heat up and it is to cool down



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[Niner]

Oh, Oh!! In our little town here - a massage parlor owners just got busted for "prostitution" and "human trafficking"!!!!!! I've walked past them MANY times going to the little drug store two stores down!!! :scared: