SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

[Zuri]

I understand now. Please tell me. Whois JDM?

Dr. DeMarte

 

[AZlawyer]

She has already been found guilty of aggravating factors, i.e., cruelty. I don't think it can be debated anymore, can it? Mitigating factors only. Like...she's young, she's oh so intelligent, an artist, a super-duper vocalist (she may even be allowed to break out into a chorus of "oh holy night" during her closing argument), has nice hair, loves animals, got hit with a wooden spoon, and so on.

Am I missing anything?

Cruelty evidence IMO will be limited to whatever the jury needs to understand what the other jury already found, so they know how much to "weigh" the cruelty in the balance against the mitigating factors.

Adding to your factors...[alleged] victim of physical, sexual and emotional abuse by Travis, mental issues making it harder for her to act normal and not stab people, no risk to anyone in the jail because tiny and female and sweeter than anything, a potential leader in the domestic violence victim community who might save many lives through her advocacy and charitable efforts... I'll see if I can think of any more.

 

[salberg7]

Yes, but doesn't the degree of cruelty or depravity contribute to her ultimate sentence? IE Death or Life? Isn't that the whole point of this phase? The first jury couldn't agree on the final sentence. That's why we are, unfortunately, here. Of course, she was convicted of first degree premeditated murder, that's a given.

 

[krkrjx]

Yes, but doesn't the degree of cruelty or depravity contribute to her ultimate sentence? IE Death or Life? Isn't that the whole point of this phase? The first jury couldn't agree on the final sentence. That's why we are, unfortunately, here. Of course, she was convicted of first degree premeditated murder, that's a given.

Degree of cruelty/aggravating factors contributed to the DP not being taken off the table when the defense motioned for that. The jury agreed the factors were there. They just, in the end, could not agree on whether the aggravators that the state had proven were greater than the mitigators the defense asserted.

 

[janx]

Cruelty evidence IMO will be limited to whatever the jury needs to understand what the other jury already found, so they know how much to "weigh" the cruelty in the balance against the mitigating factors.

Adding to your factors...[alleged] victim of physical, sexual and emotional abuse by Travis, mental issues making it harder for her to act normal and not stab people, no risk to anyone in the jail because tiny and female and sweeter than anything, a potential leader in the domestic violence victim community who might save many lives through her advocacy and charitable efforts... I'll see if I can think of any more.

AZLawyer, good to see you in this thread! The part I bolded in your response above actually made me laugh, but I do think they're going to dwell on her mental state--BPD as diagnosed by DeMarte? Didn't the defense grab ahold of that before the end of the first trial?

 

[salberg7]

It's not for us to speak to what the Alexander family wants, or what Travis would have wanted them to do. Can't even speculate. He was their brother. Either way Stabby will have a miserable, wretched life in Perryville. To me, she is a danger to society, she would kill again, IMO.

 

[janx]

What possible reason could CMJA have for wanting the Hughes to testify?

 

[krkrjx]

It's not for us to speak to what the Alexander family wants, or what Travis would have wanted them to do. Can't even speculate. He was their brother. Either way Stabby will have a miserable, wretched life in Perryville. To me, she is a danger to society, she would kill again, IMO.

I don't know for sure either but I can speculate that they want the death penalty...if they didn't I do not think things would have continued this far.

JMO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Cruelty evidence IMO will be limited to whatever the jury needs to understand what the other jury already found, so they know how much to "weigh" the cruelty in the balance against the mitigating factors.

Adding to your factors...[alleged] victim of physical, sexual and emotional abuse by Travis, mental issues making it harder for her to act normal and not stab people, no risk to anyone in the jail because tiny and female and sweeter than anything, a potential leader in the domestic violence victim community who might save many lives through her advocacy and charitable efforts... I'll see if I can think of any more.

AZlawyer, I don't see any mitigating factors you listed that would fly, unless it was a lone juror, which is all she needs. Be ause they are all, as you say, alleged. Have you thought of ANY mitigating witnesses she could call...I mean, of the ones we have all discussed before? That is the rub for me. I can't think of one. Every time the Hughes or D Reid are mentioned, I just laugh. Her goal would be to make them look bad. They were Travis's friends. Of course they hate her. But I still can't think of any way it could help her. And by this time, think of how much Juan Martinez may have come up with that could contradict her.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Great news everyone and i am screaming with all my voice from here in Indiana!!
KCL's brother auditioned last night for the Phoenix Metroplitans Men's Chorus and he was chosen!!! I told her I would pray and I am a witness that God still answers prayer!!!!! He is the same yesterday and today and forever. Hebrews 13:8!
Congratulations John!!! And KCL too!!

 

[krkrjx]

This is exactly the kind of thing I've been wondering about. I think Jodi is really anxious to get certain people on the stand but is incapable of thinking far enough ahead to wonder what Juan is going to do during cross examination.

I think JA wants any opportunity available to her to torture people who were close to Travis. I hope the judge evaluates the relevance of testimony and keeps a tight leash on counsel for the defense regarding same.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I understand now. Please tell me. Whois JDM? Oh yeah. Dr. De Marte. Right?

Yes , Dr. Janeen DeMarte. Jodi didn't like what she was saying


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1s_MoStf1Gs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NBPPUp_gZGc

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

We're 226 days into this year, and not looking for the 140 days left to hear about or see anything to do with Christmas shopping .


1784 - The United States Legislature met for the final time in Annapolis, MD,

1846 - The American Flag was raised for the first time in Los Angeles, CA.

1886 - John A. Macdonald uses a silver hammer to pound a gold spike, officially completing the Esquimalt and Nanaimo Railway in British Columbia

1889 - A patent for a coin-operated telephone was issued to William Gray.

1918 - Women enlist in the United States Marine Corps for the first time. Opha Mae Johnson is the first woman to enlist.


1919 - Man o'War's loses to Upset at Sarasota

[video=youtube;Dj9T5Mu37Ng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dj9T5Mu37Ng [/video] (an incredible and beautiful horse)


1924 - "The Prisoner's Song" by Vernon Dalhart became the first country music record to sell one million copies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=V0tg5u9y2Ps


1930 - Guy Lombardo and his orchestra recorded "Go Home and Tell Your Mother."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z5LkZF8wuhI


1934 - Al Capp's comic strip "L'il Abner" made its debut in newspapers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lkRfDGEiATo


1942 - Major General Eugene Reybold of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers authorizes the construction of facilities that would house the "Development of Substitute Materials" project, better known as the Manhattan Project. (Dr. Joyce Streans was a member of the Manhatten Project and was from Kiowa co. OK . My fathers family settled there in the late 1800's. He didn't live to see his dream of nuclear power being used for peaceful purposes.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ru2PWmGIoB8


and in 1942 - Walt Disney's 5th full-length animated film, Bambi was released to theaters. ( I took my four year old grandson to see it ( when it was released in the late 90's, and thought it was a nice safe movie for him to watch, until the hunters shot Bambi's father. He wanted a gun after that. When the other grandparents had him on their weekends., he'd come back with a toy gun or knife and he kept asking us to take him to the gun and knife store.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=O6_9t8zbwnc


1944 - Jackie Gleason-Les Tremayne show premieres on NBC radio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xF2eh_LoHZo


1969 - The Apollo II astronauts are released from a three-week quarantine for a ticker tape parade, and at a state dinner they were awarded the Presidential Medal of Honor by President Richard Nixon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VvO_Ro9Gew4


1987 - Jackie Joyner-Kersee ties world record with 24'5½" jump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=glUzi8IhYOI

 

[YESorNO]

A short, but romantic love story

A man and a woman who had never met before, but who were both married to other people,
found themselves assigned to the same sleeping room on a transcontinental train.

Though initially embarrassed and uneasy over sharing a room, they were both very
tired and fell asleep quickly, he in the upper berth and she in the lower.

At 1:00 AM, the man leaned down and gently woke the woman saying, 'Ma'am,
I'm sorry to bother you, but would you be willing to reach into the closet to get
me a second blanket? I'm awfully cold.'

'I have a better idea,' she replied, 'Just for tonight, let's pretend that we're married'.

'Wow! That's a great idea!' he exclaimed.

'Good,' she replied, 'Get your own damned blanket!'

After a moment of silence, he farted.

The End.
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The Visiting Nun

Lost on a rainy night, a nun stumbles across a monastery and requests shelter there. Fortunately, she's just in time for dinner and was treated to the best fish and chips she had ever tasted.

After dinner, she went into the kitchen to thank the chefs. She was met by two of the Brothers. The first one says, "Hello, I am Brother Michael, and this is Brother Charles." "I'm very pleased to meet you," replies the nun.

"I just wanted to thank you for a wonderful dinner. The fish and chips were the best I've ever had. Out of curiosity, who cooked what?" Brother Charles replied, "Well, I'm the fish friar." She turned to the other Brother and said, "Then you must be....?" "Yes, I'm afraid so..... I am the chip monk."
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King of His Castle

A mild-mannered man was tired of being bossed around by his wife so he went to a psychiatrist.

The psychiatrist said he needed to build his self-esteem, and so gave him a book on assertiveness, which he read on the way home.

He had finished the book by the time he reached his house.

The man stormed into the house and walked up to his wife.

Pointing a finger in her face, he said, “From now on, I want you to know that I am the man of this house, and my word is law! I want you to prepare me a gourmet meal tonight, and when I’m finished eating my meal, I expect a sumptuous dessert afterward. Then, after dinner, you’re going to draw me my bath so I can relax. And when I’m finished with my bath, guess who’s going to dress me and comb my hair?”

“The funeral director,” said his wife.
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THE SENILITY PRAYER:

Grant me the senility to forget the people
I never liked anyway,

The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and
The eyesight to tell the difference.

Now, I think you're supposed to share this with 5 or 6, maybe 10 others. Oh heck, give it to a bunch of your friends if you can remember who they are!

Always Remember This: You don't stop laughing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop laughing!!!
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He Said, She Said

He said... Do you love me just because my father left me a fortune?
She said...Not at all honey, I would love you no matter who left you the money.

She said...What do you mean by coming home half drunk?
He said... It's not my fault...I ran out of money.

He said... Since I first laid eyes on you, I've wanted to make love to you in the worst way.
She said...Well, you succeeded.

He said... What have you been doing with all the grocery money I gave you?
She said...Turn sideways and look in the mirror.

He said... Let's go out and have some fun tonight.
She said...Okay, but if you get home before I do, leave the hallway light on.

He said... Why don't you tell me when you have an orgasm?
She said...I would, but you're never there.
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Anger management

Husband: 'When I get mad at you, you never fight back. How do you control your anger?'

Wife: 'I clean the toilet.'

Husband: 'How does that help?'

Wife: 'I use your toothbrush .'
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You know you are in FLORIDA during the summertime when:

The best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance.

Hot water now comes out of both taps.

You can make sun tea instantly.

You learn that a seat belt buckle makes a pretty good branding iron.

The temperature drops below 95 and you feel a little chilly.

You discover that in July it only takes 2 fingers to steer your car.

You discover that you can get sunburned through your car window.

You actually burn your hand opening the car door.

You break into a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m.

Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and end up lying on the pavement and cook to death?"

You realize that asphalt has a liquid state.

The birds have to use pot holders to pull worms out of the ground.

The potatoes cook underground, so all you have to do is pull one out and add butter, salt, and pepper.

Farmers are feeding their chickens crushed ice to keep them from laying hard-boiled eggs.

The cows are giving evaporated milk.

The trees are whistling for the dogs.
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[video=youtube;MPl8V_21E-8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPl8V_21E-8[/video]

 

[east2west]

I am lost,the next hearing is the 22nd,so is Numi in or out? If he is out we won't see a trial till sping! She is in jail, let her have her games,my heart goes to the family

She needs to be in Prison. Not slumbering on a bunk in a county jail!

 

[janx]

This explains a lot:




MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 2h

Sheriff Arpaio wasn't about 2let #JodiArias sneak in a visitor as a witness 4 private conversation. Says If it was witness where's her list?




MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 2h

Sheriff Arpaio says #JodiArias never gave a witness list per policy. Visits r recorded-witnesses r not. Says must play by his rules #abc15

 

[Charterhouse]

I think you could get 12 jurors to agree to LWOP easier than the Death Penalty. That would assure that JSS would not give LWP. This would be a much better choice in my opinion. This may not be ideal but it would be better than what she might receive. Also it would save the poor taxpayers from AZ a lot of money.
None of the options will bring TA back. I just believe sometimes less is more in the end for all involved.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

She wants more time. She's doing everything possible to delay going to prison. More time also means more opportunity to beg for appeal money via social media. It's almost unbelievable.

:seeya:

BBM: Exactly, janx !

JA luvs the limelight and wants to delay delay delay because she knows that once she gets on death row or LWOP, NO more limelight !

And hopefully then, she will be forgotten !

It is appalling that she is even allowed to have a Begathon for $$$ for her defense ... absolutely despicable !

:moo:

 

[janx]

:seeya:

BBM: Exactly, janx !

JA luvs the limelight and wants to delay delay delay because she knows that once she gets on death row or LWOP, NO more limelight !

And hopefully then, she will be forgotten !

It is appalling that she is even allowed to have a Begathon for $$$ for her defense ... absolutely despicable !

:moo:

And then you have to wonder how many of those sites are just people looking for money from people who refuse to accept the verdict.

 

[Sedonia Sunset]

Yeah i do remember that one now, but only because of the tragic murder of Mrs. Horowitz. That was so sad. I wonder what happened to Susan Polk. I guess she is in prison?

The last I heard, she was in the same prison as Betty Broderick. There was some joking about putting the two of them in a cell together to see how (even more) bonkers they could make each other.