SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

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Dad update.
My dad died early this morning at 3:00 am. The hospital didn't contact me, but it is what it is. The mortuary blindsided my lil' brother, contacting him about the signatures need by all 4 of us siblings to go forward with his cremation.....

My lil' bro, Jonathan, was like "wait, is my dad dead?" He was expecting a call from me..I was the primary contact for the hospital. Totally caught him off guard.
So I get a call from him, "Did you know dad died?" ...wha.......?

Sad, but truly incredible! Dad died in a place he was given the best care. He didn't linger in unconsciousness for weeks on end. He heard and said what he needed to, on July 26th, when my brother took me "Skyping" to his hospital bed in Washington.

My dad gave us the most awesome gift he could have ever given us:
He told us he loved us. To be happy. He had 7 minutes of complete clarity.

He lost consciousness 24 hours later, and died 11 days after.

I am in the most incredible place right now. I wish I could have known the man that was in that hospital bed.....that WAS my dad. And he came back, for a few brief moments, and made all the darkness, grief, and pain, disappear.

I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. I am truly happy and know I am loved.

R.I.P. Stephen Carlson Garn, My Dad. I love you!

R.I.P. indeed, Stephen Carlson Garn. A man who was both loving and loved.

Bernina, please accept my sympathies for the death of your father. May you be comforted by the warmth of family and friends and most importantly, fond memories of you dad and all that he did over his long life. With the love you have for him and your memories, while he is no longer living, he will be with you in your heart and mind every day of your life.
 
was just having a random thought earlier,not sure if it's been mentioned

Now she is representing herself,and we all know that will be a total car crash...do you think the media will go back to the court and ask them to reconsider their decision on the 'live stream'

I want to see this live,it would be too good

She was able to make a call to Troy Hayden to do that interview after the guilt phase verdict so I'd imagine she'll find a way to let the media know she'll support their motion for cameras now if they'll petition the court.
 
The raunchy stuff was Nurmi's idea, no doubt, so I'm hoping that will go by the wayside during the penalty retrial. What does everyone else think?

LOL, I think that the raunchy stuff is partly responsible for the Jury Foreman not voting for the death penalty. :p
 
Being as this is the Side Bar:

Dad update.
My dad died early this morning at 3:00 am. The hospital didn't contact me, but it is what it is. The mortuary blindsided my lil' brother, contacting him about the signatures need by all 4 of us siblings to go forward with his cremation.....

My lil' bro, Jonathan, was like "wait, is my dad dead?" He was expecting a call from me..I was the primary contact for the hospital. Totally caught him off guard.
So I get a call from him, "Did you know dad died?" ...wha.......?

Sad, but truly incredible! Dad died in a place he was given the best care. He didn't linger in unconsciousness for weeks on end. He heard and said what he needed to, on July 26th, when my brother took me "Skyping" to his hospital bed in Washington.

My dad gave us the most awesome gift he could have ever given us:
He told us he loved us. To be happy. He had 7 minutes of complete clarity.

He lost consciousness 24 hours later, and died 11 days after.

I am in the most incredible place right now. I wish I could have known the man that was in that hospital bed.....that WAS my dad. And he came back, for a few brief moments, and made all the darkness, grief, and pain, disappear.

I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. I am truly happy and know I am loved.

R.I.P. Stephen Carlson Garn, My Dad. I love you!

I'm so sorry for the death of your father.
I know you have come a long way to get to this point and your feelings about him. So glad you were able to come to some resolution about what is important at this time( and the most important)- his love for you and yours for him. May you hold the memory of those 7 minutes forever in your heart. Those 7 minutes had to pack a lifetime of memories- some that were bad, but you have learned to forgive and just love. Your father has taught you that, you know.
God bless you, dear Bernina. You have grown.
May he rest in peace and land in God's arms and His embrace. I will pray for him and you. :candle:

"“You can't love your mother or father if you don't also have the capacity to grieve their deaths and, perhaps even more so, grieve parts of their lives.”
― Glenn Beck, The 7: Seven Wonders That Will Change Your Life
 
Being as this is the Side Bar:

Dad update.
My dad died early this morning at 3:00 am. The hospital didn't contact me, but it is what it is. The mortuary blindsided my lil' brother, contacting him about the signatures need by all 4 of us siblings to go forward with his cremation.....

My lil' bro, Jonathan, was like "wait, is my dad dead?" He was expecting a call from me..I was the primary contact for the hospital. Totally caught him off guard.
So I get a call from him, "Did you know dad died?" ...wha.......?

Sad, but truly incredible! Dad died in a place he was given the best care. He didn't linger in unconsciousness for weeks on end. He heard and said what he needed to, on July 26th, when my brother took me "Skyping" to his hospital bed in Washington.

My dad gave us the most awesome gift he could have ever given us:
He told us he loved us. To be happy. He had 7 minutes of complete clarity.

He lost consciousness 24 hours later, and died 11 days after.

I am in the most incredible place right now. I wish I could have known the man that was in that hospital bed.....that WAS my dad. And he came back, for a few brief moments, and made all the darkness, grief, and pain, disappear.

I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. I am truly happy and know I am loved.

R.I.P. Stephen Carlson Garn, My Dad. I love you!

I'm so sorry for the mess they made of notification Bern, but so glad you and your brother have found peace in your hearts and your Dad has finally found his peace. Great big hug to you.
 
I feel certain that Arias will amp up on the "abuse" she suffered by Travis. She will play to the sympathy of female jurors and older male jurors. I still believe that she will still manage to use the sex angle on the younger male jurors. I truly hope that this sentencing trial will be live streamed.
 
I don't understand the reason for the tape delay. I thought the "no cameras" related to the media hype and possibly tainting unsequestered jurors, tape delay is usually for blocking inappropriate content. Maybe JSS had issues with the graphic testimony and photos more that the hype?

I guess because the psychologist Dr. DeMarte? 's house was broken into and ALV had death threats, and other witness drama, JSS had made that call? The witnesses were somewhat treated with disrespect because of the media. JMO
 
The raunchy stuff was Nurmi's idea, no doubt, so I'm hoping that will go by the wayside during the penalty retrial. What does everyone else think?

I think that was part of her trial- the raunchyness part and if the jury has to come up to the understanding that she was a predator with Travis as her prey, it will come up again, IMO.

Nurmi is a lawyer who defends sexual offenders, so I guess he stresses all that in his cases. He had a lot of "stuff" to work with in her trial.
 
I'm wondering if the prosecutor can now bring into evidence what was in JA's rental car when she tried to escape. That would certainly be relevant to her sentencing since the weapons used in her crime were a gun and a knife. jmo
 
YorN, how funny!!! :floorlaugh:

Thank-you, Janx. :cupcake:

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What ever you do, never ask me a question, as I can be very long winded with all the research I like to do. :findinglink::lookingitup:

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I'm wondering if the prosecutor can now bring into evidence what was in JA's rental car when she tried to escape. That would certainly be relevant to her sentencing since the weapons used in her crime were a gun and a knife. jmo

That would be good, wouldn't it.
 
You keep this thread hopping, Y/N.... And we love ya for it!
 
I'm wondering if the prosecutor can now bring into evidence what was in JA's rental car when she tried to escape. That would certainly be relevant to her sentencing since the weapons used in her crime were a gun and a knife. jmo

I don't think they can bring in new evidence during the sentencing trial, can they? I was thinking more along the lines that Jodi may have something such as the "gun shot first".
 
Y/n has kept us laughing and very informed. She is a jewel.
 
I know my signature is big but I love the picture. It is Queen Mary's Garden in London. It makes me feel good to look at it.
 
Hi Katiecoollady,
That was some post you just made! Of course, I had to go right to two innocents to read about John. What an amazing gift you have given him! What an amazing thing he has done for himself. I pray. I pray a lot. And on August 12th, 6pm Arizona time, I will pray for John's audition. For some reason, I feel confident in my heart that John will be blessed beyond measure. Actually, the chorus will be blessed to have him. I have always heard that if you do what you love, success will follow. if he can do what he loves, maybe a happier life will follow as well. For me, it's so important to be with people who share my interests and it makes me excited to wake up each day knowing there is something I can do that I feel good about. You really struck gold inspiring John this way. And there is something unexplainable about how good exercise makes you feel. I experienced that many years ago. You just feel like you can take on the world. (I can't do it right now for myself because of a back condition but the day is coming.). You are a brilliant writer, mixing insight, wisdom, and humor.

None of us Websleuthers feel bad that you have taken your life back. I know the Alexander's feel your love and ours as well. We tease here and joke but we are aware just how serious all of this is. The killer needs to be locked away. That will come, at some point. Just how much more damage she will try to do to the family remains a mystery, but try she will! We all should pray for their strength and future. And I do for you as well, as I know it must be painful every day.

An idea has come to my mind about a killers sentence. Any killer. Especially this one. You have rightfully pointed out all the resources that CMJA will have available for appeals if she were to receive a death sentence. And how it would drag on....and on. Life in prison is too good when you consider her heinous crime and that she would be able to make friends with other prisoners and perform her Christmas carols and draw her art. Ugh. Sadly this is what happens. They adjust and life isn't so bad.

A third option came to me. I wish the courts could consider it. How about a death row sentence without death and without ANY chance for appeal? I mean literally, locking her up in a cell 24/7 with NO outside contact, no artwork, no mail from the outside, no phone calls. Of course she would go mad. it sounds cruel. But when a person savagely murders someone with premeditation we don't want them in society. Nor do we want to pay for their appeals. Nor do we want to hear how the crazies outside are lining up to be married to them, etc. Fairly close to an eye for an eye, I think. Oh and bread and water for their meals. Let life, or death, take its course. I truly believe also that she was advised to take this route so she can stall. Hopefully, JSS will nix that.

Thank you for your post. Best wishes for your future. Yes, we love, PASA. Glad Katie is doing well. If you hear from Beth, tell her we all miss her. And no worries about Kiefer.....I don't really know why he still has his job. He has no credibility with me.

Hi CiI! Thank you for this nice response and THANK YOU for thinking of my dear Alfonse (his nickname) and praying for my brother's audition! It's just less than a week away now...I'm psyched! He continues to do well--we are going on an errand tomorrow (actually I pulled about 1/3 of my clothes out of my closet to give to the homeless for Travis' birthday day but that whole event shifted and they ended up not doing that part of it so I'm taking them tomorrow to a place where they prepare homeless women for the work force and accept clothing donations and I have some really nice stuff in there!). Then we will go to lunch and have some other plans this week, like packing up food boxes for the hungry so we're still "giving back" in our own ways. I just know his life will change dramatically when he gets hooked in to this chorus so then in turn, will mine (meaning I will worry less and I feel certain less hospitalizations).

Yes I agree with some sort of "worst of the worst" sentence that takes the politics of the DP out of the equation. I think they actually have about a 5% chance nationally of actually being executed...now how could that be a deterrent anyway to a sociopathic killer? Something like you describe...a death row sentence, lose all chance of appeal with all that austerity. Truly lock them up and throw away the key. I dunno, maybe the "savers" of the world would find a way to fight that.
The "personal ads" that my sister's killers have on Canadian websites read like personal ads...in one of them the man who slit her throat is posing with HER puppy. Sick. But I've tangled with those folks and they are commited to saving these monsters.

Nice to hear from you. I have serious doubts this thing will actually start Sept. 8 but I've been wrong before. Her life in Estrella is probably much nicer than it will be in prison so she will extend it as long as she can...aided and abetted by the seen and unseen teams of people assisting her (one of whom is a local reporter in my opinion). Blech.

Thanks again for your prayers...if he gets in, I'm sending you a present! :D
 
BBM Well there was something about a DR on the last court minutes last week: :thinking:

"...Defendant’s Request for Deposition of Witness D.R. is heard and tabled for supplemental
filings from both parties...."

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082014/m6417640.pdf

Could be Deanna Reid, IMO.

Jodi didn't like hearing that Travis loved her and that she was brave enough to come into court and say that had sex. I think Jodi wanted her to be humiliated and embarrassed, and she wasn't. I'm betting Jodi wants to hear all the intimate details of their love for each other. All in the name of seeing if there is anything that will set her free. Can you imagine being in the same room with her, and her getting up as close to you as she can?
 
WTH

"Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · Aug 5
In other news- Jodi's going to be auctioning off the glasses she wore during trial and donating the proceeds to charity."

https://twitter.com/JodiAnnArias

I guess Jodi needs more commissary cash?
 
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