SIDEBAR #26- Arias/Alexander forum

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  • #841
I'm confused about this too. I think I remember that during the penalty phase last year or the year before or whenever it was, the talking heads on HLN were saying that if the jury didn't come back with DP, then it was up to the judge to sentence her to LWOP or 25 to Life or natural Life or something… they said there was a choice that Stephens would have to make.
 
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My impression was that a) Jodi wants Nurmi OFF the case, and b) if the judge allows Nurmi to withdraw, Jodi will happily turn the reins over to JW and whatever other attorney is there to advise, and then everyone will be happy. She's only representing herself because Nurmi refuses to go along with whatever hairbrained scheme she has up her striped sleeve.

Am I misreading something?

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Hi Sedonia, I see it as another way to stall. A new attorney called in needs time to familiarize with the case. could be a couple more months. BOY! she does not want to go into prison. Not nice at Perrysville.:jail:
 
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I'm wondering if JA's comment that if Nurmi was removed that JA would give up the idea of representing herself actually sealed the deal that Nurmi would NOT be removed. She is entitled to two lawyers and having a new one appointed to replace Nurmi would have meant a delay in the retrial. She just made it clear that representing herself is only a tactic to get rid of him and she has no real intention of acting as her own lawyer.

BBM That's exactly what I was thinking.

Wonder how this will affect her appeals?
 
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  • #847
My "THANKS" button is crazy this morning! YAY! Nurmi denied! This is great news! Now lets see if JA actually will defend herself.
 
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:shame: I am hooked on the giraffe cam --- everyone constantly wants to check Autumn (giraffe)'s butt for signs of the baby coming. Your pic here was so perfect for that!
 
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:loveyou:Hi everyone who is posting today. :). I am doing a happy dance all by myself here.

:loveyou::loveyou::loveyou: So happy Nurmi is on the case and JA throwing fits about now I am sure.

I told you all about my back. It's getting better and I am to see the doctor today for results of the MRI but I believe I am healed. Hey, the great news is that I am having cataract surgery next week! Maybe I can finally see again to drive and not wear these glasses. I have cataracts on both eyes and it causes my vision to be really fuzzy. So please keep me in your prayers. Maybe by September 8th I will be good as new...I mean, for an old lady. Ha. Getting old isn't a lot of fun. And the anger I felt towards JA and the AZ court yesterday wasn't good for me. But hey, since JSS ruled that Nurmi isn't going anywhere I feel better. Now if she will just rule that we can see the trial I may grow to love her. :).

Dont you just wish you could have seen the look in Jodi's eyes when she heard Nurmi is staying as lead counsel? Will she represent herself? She did make the threat ya know. Oh I hope she does! Nurmi can sit back and laugh and squeal, at least to himself. After hours, he and JW would have a lot to laugh about. Wonder if Jodi will come up with a new plan. Let's see, she has tried fake pedo letters, a phone sex conversation, firing Nurmi, representing herself once before, migraines, temper tantrums....have I forgotten anything? I am thinking she may be having a dose of reality this morning.

I feel like dancing.....:loveyou::loveyou:
 
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I'm wondering if JA's comment that if Nurmi was removed that JA would give up the idea of representing herself actually sealed the deal that Nurmi would NOT be removed. She is entitled to two lawyers and having a new one appointed to replace Nurmi would have meant a delay in the retrial. She just made it clear that representing herself is only a tactic to get rid of him and she has no real intention of acting as her own lawyer.

Precisely. It was very obvious, and the judge was not amused. Jen of the Trial Divas said as much in a spreecast yesterday. She could see it on the judge's face.
 
  • #853
:loveyou:Hi everyone who is posting today. :). I am doing a happy dance all by myself here.

:loveyou::loveyou::loveyou: So happy Nurmi is on the case and JA throwing fits about now I am sure.

I told you all about my back. It's getting better and I am to see the doctor today for results of the MRI but I believe I am healed. Hey, the great news is that I am having cataract surgery next week! Maybe I can finally see again to drive and not wear these glasses. I have cataracts on both eyes and it causes my vision to be really fuzzy. So please keep me in your prayers. Maybe by September 8th I will be good as new...I mean, for an old lady. Ha. Getting old isn't a lot of fun. And the anger I felt towards JA and the AZ court yesterday wasn't good for me. But hey, since JSS ruled that Nurmi isn't going anywhere I feel better. Now if she will just rule that we can see the trial I may grow to love her. :).

Dont you just wish you could have seen the look in Jodi's eyes when she heard Nurmi is staying as lead counsel? Will she represent herself? She did make the threat ya know. Oh I hope she does! Nurmi can sit back and laugh and squeal, at least to himself. After hours, he and JW would have a lot to laugh about. Wonder if Jodi will come up with a new plan. Let's see, she has tried fake pedo letters, a phone sex conversation, firing Nurmi, representing herself once before, migraines, temper tantrums....have I forgotten anything? I am thinking she may be having a dose of reality this morning.

I feel like dancing.....:loveyou::loveyou:

Are you having both eyes done at the same time?

Glad your back is better.

I still think that all this Nurmi wanting off the case is just some sort of ploy for appeals- I don't trust any of missy's :jail: crew.

:seeya:
 
  • #854
I got to thinking today about this trial and realized, in the state of AZ, murderers are seriously afforded more benefits in health care of all kinds, legal representation, media coverage (attention) than any disadvantaged population. How many battered women are given free legal services and protection by the police? How many are murdered before they receive any services? I know first hand how the mentally ill are prioritized in terms of services (believe me we've spent thousands in legal services alone just trying to get my brother the basics of care), and don't get me started on the homeless. Death row murderers whether they ever make it there or not receive the best of all support by our TAX PAYER MONEY.

I feel like I need to speak up about this somehow, some way, some day. But for now I'm going to ride the wave of enjoying my life.
This travesty needs some exposure though I do believe. It's ridiculous.


Hi Katie,
i have always said I am against the death penalty for that one person who may be on death row who isn't guilty and ultimately because they will receive punishment from God. That said, you should have seen me yesterday, I was so angry with JA and her defenders and counsel I was willing to do the job myself. That can't be healthy. I calmed down last night and read your blog about John and I knew there were still good and beautiful things in this world and decent people. And I have read your posts last year about groups that go about defending death row inmates and the privileges afforded to them. I thought of your sister and Caylee Anthony and Lacy Peterson and Travis and I thought of all the people who are left here to suffer. It is all so wrong. I just read a post, maybe from Kensie, that said those of us who do the right thing seem to get the shaft. (My words.). Sadly, when this trial is over, there will come another like it.
Maybe some day, some way we can all band together for change. I would like that.
 
  • #855
Jury selection starts sep.8 with all the delays going on how do they go about sending notifications to potential jurors when there not sure themselves what new game she has going? I understand how it usually works. Thanks
 
  • #856
Are you having both eyes done at the same time?

Glad your back is better.

I still think that all this Nurmi wanting off the case is just some sort of ploy for appeals- I don't trust any of missy's :jail: crew.

:seeya:

Hi YorN, did I ever tell you I enjoy your posts? I must have. :). Then when you were defending JSS I got my dander up. Well, you were being fair and I just wanted justice NOW. Yeah I have always thought Jodi and Nurmi and Wilmott were in a ploy to stall. Maybe JSS let them know by this ruling that it is over.
i am going to go with that thought for today. :).

I am having my eyes done two days apart. My vision was so bad and the doctor said no wonder! I am hoping I will finally be able to see. As for my back, it has this catch in it somehow but I am able to sit up and post now so see, that's a good thing. It must be better. Thank you for asking.
 
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Hi Katie,
i have always said I am against the death penalty for that one person who may be on death row who isn't guilty and ultimately because they will receive punishment from God. That said, you should have seen me yesterday, I was so angry with JA and her defenders and counsel I was willing to do the job myself. That can't be healthy. I calmed down last night and read your blog about John and I knew there were still good and beautiful things in this world and decent people. And I have read your posts last year about groups that go about defending death row inmates and the privileges afforded to them. I thought of your sister and Caylee Anthony and Lacy Peterson and Travis and I thought of all the people who are left here to suffer. It is all so wrong. I just read a post, maybe from Kensie, that said those of us who do the right thing seem to get the shaft. (My words.). Sadly, when this trial is over, there will come another like it.
Maybe some day, some way we can all band together for change. I would like that.

Great post, Curious. I was watching 'The Perfect Husband (Scott Peterson movie) yesterday and it was just so sad. I can't wrap my mind around why Scott felt he to murder his son and wife rather than just get divorced or why KC felt she had to murder Caylee rather than just 'give' her away. It's all tragic.

I've never felt such a strong (physical and emotional-not healthy as you say) reaction to a criminal. JA is the worst of the worst of the worst. I pity all those who have ever crossed paths with her.

And yes, KCL's blog is so soothing. It serves as a beautiful reminder that good and kind people do exist all around us.
 
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MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 13h

#JodiArias #DeathPenalty retrial rules: 1-video camera allowed, NO footage can air until retrial is over. Tweeting, blogging allowed. #abc15
 
  • #859
Anyone read this article that rose posted? Interesting.

I was wondering if missy:jail: will have the same conditions in prison that this guy does (except, of course there won't be men yelling and such- like
in this prison). Would this be conditions only if she gets DP, I wonder, while she waits for death by injection?

Some excerpts that sound good: :facepalm:

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"The following essay is by William Blake, who has been held in solitary confinement for nearly 26 years. Currently he is in administrative segregation at Elmira Correctional Facility, a maximum security facility located in south central New York State. In 1987, Blake, then 23 and in county court on a drug charge, murdered one deputy and wounded another in a failed escape attempt. He was sentenced to 77 years to life....
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'...Prisoners call it The Box. Prison authorities have euphemistically dubbed it the Special Housing Unit, or SHU (pronounced “shoe”) for short. In society it is known as solitary confinement. It is 23-hour a day lockdown in a cell smaller than some closets I’ve seen, with one hour allotted to “recreation” consisting of placement in a concrete enclosed yard by oneself or, in some prisons, a cage made of steel bars. There is nothing in a SHU yard but air: no TV, no balls to bounce, no games to play, no other inmates, nothing. There is very little allowed in a SHU cell, also. Three sets of plain white underwear, one pair of green pants, one green short-sleeved button-up shirt, one green sweatshirt, ten books or magazines total, twenty pictures of the people you love, writing supplies, a bar of soap, toothbrush and toothpaste, one deodorant stick but no shampoo, and that’s about it. No clothes of your own, only prison-made. No food from commissary or packages, only three unappetizing meals a day handed to you through a narrow slot in your cell door. No phone calls, no TV, no luxury items at all. You get a set of cheap headphones to use, and you can pick between the two or three (depending on which prison you’re in) jacks in the cell wall to plug into. You can listen to a TV station in one jack, and use your imagination while trying to figure out what is going on when the music indicates drama but the dialogue doesn’t suffice to tell you anything. Or you can listen to some music, but you’re out of luck if you’re a rock-n-roll fan and find only rap is playing....

...I have lived for months where the first thing I became aware of upon waking in the morning is the malodorous funk of human feces, tinged with the acrid stench of days-old urine, where I eat my breakfast, lunch, and dinner with that same stink assaulting my senses, and where the last thought I had before falling into unconscious sleep was: “Damn, it smells like sh-t in here.”...

Had I known in 1987 that I would spend the next quarter-century in solitary confinement, I would have certainly killed myself. If I took a month to die and spent every minute of it in severe pain, it seems to me that on a balance that fate would still be far easier to endure than the last twenty-five years have been. If I try to imagine what kind of death, even a slow one, would be worse than twenty-five years in the box—and I have tried to imagine it—I can come up with nothing. Set me afire, pummel and bludgeon me, cut me to bits, stab me, shoot me, do what you will in the worst of ways, but none of it could come close to making me feel things as cumulatively horrifying as what I’ve experienced through my years in solitary. Dying couldn’t take but a short time if you or the State were to kill me; in SHU I have died a thousand internal deaths. The sum of my quarter-century’s worth of suffering has been that bad....

I have served a sentence worse than death."
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He said had he known in 1987 he would have been serving his sentence that way, he would have killed himself. How about saying, had I known I would be guilty of taking a human life, I would have instead killed myself? Nowhere does he say that he is sorry for killing another human being. Were he remorseful, I would have hated reading this essay. It would have broken my heart! But he never even mentioned the person he killed.
 
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Great post, Curious. I was watching 'The Perfect Husband (Scott Peterson movie) yesterday and it was just so sad. I can't wrap my mind around why Scott felt he to murder his son and wife rather than just get divorced or why KC felt she had to murder Caylee rather than just 'give' her away. It's all tragic.

I've never felt such a strong (physical and emotional-not healthy as you say) reaction to a criminal. JA is the worst of the worst of the worst. I pity all those who have ever crossed paths with her.

And yes, KCL's blog is so soothing. It serves as a beautiful reminder that good and kind people do exist all around us.

Hi Rose,
yep, guess everyone on here notices this trial brings out the worst in me. I remember when Scott Peterson was sentenced to death I was watching alone and just started cheering. Then I felt so bad. I thought, what am I doing?! But I couldn't see how such a sweet "appearing" young man could think of murdering his wife and throwing her and her baby away. That was my first trial. No wait. I watched OJ get away with murdering his wife. Forgot that one. I first thought that LE must be crazy to suspect Scott. When they found her and Connor where he said he had been fishing, it was just an awakening. And little Caylee. When I heard "not guilty", I just walked around my home stunned for the day and I promised myself I would never, ever watch another trial. So here I am. So much for that.

When these lawyers and jurors say that Anthony and Arias just look too tiny or too sweet or too little to commit such heinous acts, I just cringe. Jodi plays mind games and that angers me. I don't feel anything toward her but contempt. I hope this jury sees right through her. All of them.
 
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