SIDEBAR #29- Arias/Alexander forum

[Love Never Fails]

And herein lies the truth :
And then there's this: Tell "Darlie" I love her ? uke: That person, "Darlie", in case someone here doesn't know, is the woman who stabbed her two very little boys, Devon and Damon Routier, to death. Yes, she did.

I didn't know. I don't normally keep up with crimes except for Jodi and Casey. This woman was really creepy. Who makes a statement like that? I am just shocked. There are no words.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Michael K. Jeanes, Clerk of Court
*** Electronically Filed ***
09/18/2014 8:00 AM

09/15/2014

David Bodney’s Request for Camera Coverage and Modification of May 21, 2014 Ruling
is argued.

IT IS ORDERED taking the matter under advisement.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED setting Capital Case Management Conference on 9/16/14 at
10:30 a.m. in this division to discuss the jury questionnaire, preliminary jury instructions and
argument on Defense Motion for Out-of-State Deposition. The Defendant’s presence is waived
for the hearing on 9/16/14 only.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED setting Oral Argument on the Motion to Quash Trial
Subpoena and Motion to Compel on 9/22/14 at 10:45 a.m. in this division

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/092014/m6487269.pdf

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Out-of-State deposition? Wonder who they are calling?

Maybe Jodi's mother? The motion to quash trial subpoena...would that be the same one or maybe one if the prosecution had asked for? Interesting Yes or No. I am waiting to see what we will learn about cameras.

Btw, is it cold yet in NY? I was out all day yesterday and it was in the 50's, finally got up to 65 by 5 pm but I had a sweater. Winds from the north. Guess we are looking at a cold winter.

 

[Love Never Fails]

If the killer or anyone speaking for her in court tries to convince the jury that she has character and sensitivity and that she cares about other humans because she made monetary donation to any organization on the verge of her retrial, a statement is, IMO, necessary because if that happens and the organization does not speak up it will appear as though they willingly accept blood money. But that's just MOO. I have said enough on this issue now, so this is the end of this subject for me unless something new comes to light about it.

Krkrjx, I am hopeful that her attorneys won't allow that statement to ever be made in court again. They know the gig is up. She is guilty. Maybe before long, we will all see a statement issued by St Jude's. Do you think it is possible they have already sent a letter to the prosecutor to be read in court if the issue comes up? Now wouldn't that just rain on Jodi's parade....

 

[Love Never Fails]

OK, I found it and was pretty sure YesorNo posted this before


Letter from George Barwood

Y'all remember George Barwood (GeeBee2).

He's the missy supporter who Vinnie interviewed on HLN . Well he has his own website for missy.

He supposedly sent a letter to missy back in 2013:

"November 16th, 2013

Hi Jodi
Several good things have happened since I last wrote on September 15th, when I told you that Debra Milke had been released on bail. Firstly, David Camm was found Not Guilty on October 24th, which was a major moment for me, I put a lot of effort into writing articles, analysing the case, re-writing the wikipedia article etc. Lynne Blanchard was running the support group, and I helped her out a bit, it was a huge success, starting from about 200 supporters, there were 1,000 by the end of the trial. I learnt a lot following the case on facebook from Don Rehkopf, who is a top attorney and a bloodstain pattern expert. David Camm has a fantastic defense team, and incredible witnesses, but of course it cost a lot of money. I just wish you could have attorneys and witnesses like David had.

During the David Camm case, Lynne told me about another case, James Stone, who has been wrongly in prison for 29 years. I have made contact with Patty his sister, and we have documented how the same crooked prosecutor, Stan Faith, tampered with the trial record to remove some perjury. I have two MORE cases as well, Hubert Mayhew and John Ramos, I have set up facebook support for them as well.

Also, a very bad bloodstain "expert" Tom Bevel was further discredited. This should help Darlie Routier, who has been wrongly on death row in Texas for 17 YEARS, partly on Bevel's testimony.

Also, another person I support is Ryan Ferguson, who recently had his conviction vacated and has now been freed after 10 years in prison. There was a lot of prosecution misconduct, but now he has been released, it is fantastic, his story is all over the news. He is an excellent speaker, he can be a real figurehead for wrongly convicted people. He had a huge level of support - the petition closed with Victory and 266,872 supporters.

By the way : I think you now have the BIGGEST support on Facebook for anyone who is still locked up : the Jodi Arias Support Page has 3,300 likes ( I just checked ! ). Please take some heart from that. Amanda Knox has more support, but she is not locked up ( and I hope will shortly be cleared after her second appeal ). Oh, I also made a group where sceptics can (without hating or name-calling) discuss your case.

I'm also looking at getting people together to tackle systemic problems with wrongful conviction in the United States as a whole, I have started a Facebook group "JusticeReform" which has more than 100 members already.
Well, there are many other things I could mention, but please take heart, keep fighting, I will certainly fight for you, and know that you are SO much admired and supported, and a true inspiration.

George"

http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/LetterToJodi2

I just can't understand this man- "...So much admired and supported.... a true inspiration"???? What can there be possibly be "admired" in a murderer?
He must be really cray-cray himself. He is seeking "justice" for a self-proclaimed murderer!!

He's just like the foreman and thinks it was "self-defense" because Travis was an "abuser" of little missy when he said "bad words" to her in a text. Garbage.

I agree with your assessment of him. In the beginning he sounds like a man who truly wants to help those wrongly convicted, which would be admirable. But then...he tells Jodi she is admired and supported when there is NO DOUBT of her guilt? Shame on him!

 

[krkrjx]

Krkrjx, I am hopeful that her attorneys won't allow that statement to ever be made in court again. They know the gig is up. She is guilty. Maybe before long, we will all see a statement issued by St Jude's. Do you think it is possible they have already sent a letter to the prosecutor to be read in court if the issue comes up? Now wouldn't that just rain on Jodi's parade....

Well, I can understand St. Jude not wanting to get involved with court proceedings unless necessary but really, if JA made this donation or it was made by someone at her direction, what other reason is there for that other than to try to make her look philanthropic? Look, jurors, her life is worth saving because she gives to others.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Well, I can understand St. Jude not wanting to get involved with court proceedings unless necessary but really, if JA made this donation or it was made by someone at her direction, what other reason is there for that other than to try to make her look philanthropic? Look, jurors, her life is worth saving because she gives to others.

Yep that is pure Jodi. But somehow I feel she is being stopped. Maybe her attorneys are doing it. I don't know. She has enjoyed a free reign while awaiting this penalty phase but I just have this feeling it is all over. And if St Jude's did get that money, which I doubt at this moment, they will find the way to handle it and it would be cool if JM helped them. In a way the makes Jodi look worse. Or wait...is that at all possible?

 

[krkrjx]

I agree with your assessment of him. In the beginning he sounds like a man who truly wants to help those wrongly convicted, which would be admirable. But then...he tells Jodi she is admired and supported when there is NO DOUBT of her guilt? Shame on him!

I agree. He seems interested in helping those wrongly convicted and that is a very good thing. I do believe Ryan Ferguson to be innocent. And that he believes in Camm's innocence is understandable even though some may not agree with his assessment. What is astounding is that he believes Arias to be innocent after she admitted to murder, and the murder was so violent and in no way self defense or evolved from prior abuse because she lived so far away and she went to see him without an invitation and likely even without him knowing she was coming.

I support anyone fighting for the wrongly convicted but he seems hellbent on fighting for everyone convicted in cases that were deemed newsworthy. With zero evidence of abuse by TA as JA claims, it is a head-scratcher as to why this guy stands behind her.

 

[Renee110]

and the res that YesorNo posted

And one more person who has his head in the sand (I could say his head is someplace else, but, remember, I'm "evolved"):

-a note to Websleuth ? from Rob Roman:

(you remember him from this ambiguous article about JM that I posted before:

http://spotlightonlaw.wordpress.com/...an-martinez-2/ )

"Rob Roman February 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm · ·

Dear Websleuth, (" You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the he** else are you talking... you talking to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who the **** do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? OK.")

"If you were smart enough to realize how foolish you are, then you would be smart enough to see that you’ve been had by Juan Martinez.

-(and a poem?)

'Go away from my window,
Leave at your own chosen speed.
I’m not the one you want, babe,
I’m not the one you need.

You say you’re lookin’ for someone
Never weak but always strong,
To protect you and defend you
Whether you are right or wrong,
Someone to open each and every door,

But it ain’t me, babe,
No, no, no, it ain’t me, babe,
It ain’t me you’re lookin’ for, babe'.”
http://spotlightonlaw.wordpress.com/comment-page-1/

(Note: I'm pretty sure he's not really talking to us @ WS. )
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I think I'm going to investigate all the morons with some research on Google- a little Spring project while I wait for the retrial. If anyone's interested, I'll let you know about all the cray-crays I find and their theories. (such fun)

http://www.villagegeek.com/downloads...e Morons.mp3

BBM

Yes please! I'm interested in everything to do with this crazy trial. Probably unhealthy. I can't help it. I can't look away….:shame:

 

[SwampMama]

"get a piece of history. The very spoon what turned Jodi arias into a violent murderer. €1000 with $950 deposit. cash "

https://twitter.com/muscleover40/status/512378469926572032/photo/1

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

LOL, I love it. I remember during the trial my sons gf (an avid WSer) and I were glued to the trial whereas he was not so much. Poor thing, his gf and his mama are WSers. He said or did something that annoyed us during the spoon testimony and we got our wooden spoons and went after him. He was threatened often with the wooden spoon in the days that followed. Luckily he is such a good sport and has an amazing sense of humor.

When my son was a child, i came across one of those giant wooden fork and spoon sets that are meant to be hung on the wall (wayyy yoo big to ever be used). They cost a dime and I was amused by them and bought them, They quickly became favorite objects in our house with me, my sin and his friends. We used the fork to do the "poke of annoyance" where you sit next to the person and repeatedly (gently) poke them with the fork until they become so annoyed that they come after you. The spoon was used to sneak up and smack someone on the butt. Whoever had possession of them would hide them and use them and then someone else would find them and put them into play.

My husband thought DHS would certainly be coming to visit us one day over reports of me running out the house chasing boys brandishing a giant wooden spoon. Those days were such fun times with my son.

 

[krkrjx]

Maybe Jodi's mother? The motion to quash trial subpoena...would that be the same one or maybe one if the prosecution had asked for? Interesting Yes or No. I am waiting to see what we will learn about cameras.

Btw, is it cold yet in NY? I was out all day yesterday and it was in the 50's, finally got up to 65 by 5 pm but I had a sweater. Winds from the north. Guess we are looking at a cold winter.

We are, apparently, experiencing a polar vortex situation like the one last winter. It is colder than normal now, just as it was last winter. The difference this time is this one is not expected to stay around for long...unlike the one that kept us in a deep-freeze most of last winter. This one will lift and temps will warm up again. I heard that October should be normal temps with November, December, January being rather balmy for the upper midwest. I hope what I heard is right on. Do not want winter this soon, or another winter like last year. :hills:

 

[LinTX]

I do think the glasses were hers because of missy's:jail: Twitter A/C saying so and the :rumor: that they are not hers, is just more :blah: on Twitter because Sheriff Joe said it might not even be hers. Just more Twitter :blah: IMO.

(Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · Sep 14
The Jodi Arias glasses auction is now under way and goes until Sept. 24th.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · Sep 15
The chosen non-profit will be announced shortly after the conclusion of the glasses auction. )

She had more than 1 set of glasses.

The reasons I don't believe these were hers is because they were not the same frame color and because of the way they worded the description on the auction page. It read "as worn by", not "worn by".

Yep that is pure Jodi. But somehow I feel she is being stopped. Maybe her attorneys are doing it. I don't know. She has enjoyed a free reign while awaiting this penalty phase but I just have this feeling it is all over. And if St Jude's did get that money, which I doubt at this moment, they will find the way to handle it and it would be cool if JM helped them. In a way the makes Jodi look worse. Or wait...is that at all possible?

I'm not sure her attorneys can stop whatever she decides to present in allocution, and that's where she showed off her art and survivor tshirt, etc. in first trial. Agree that it all makes her look worse, just as the survivor shirt did, but she's made no good choices that I've seen. As for St. Jude's, they have confirmed the donation was made, along with the dedication and who made it (Ben Ernst, one of her 'officials' apparently handling her art sales)

 

[YESorNO]

I agree with your assessment of him. In the beginning he sounds like a man who truly wants to help those wrongly convicted, which would be admirable. But then...he tells Jodi she is admired and supported when there is NO DOUBT of her guilt? Shame on him!

GB believes that missy:jail: was defending herself, so with his thinking, she is not guilty of premed murder. :hills:

 

[Love Never Fails]

I agree. He seems interested in helping those wrongly convicted and that is a very good thing. I do believe Ryan Ferguson to be innocent. And that he believes in Camm's innocence is understandable even though some may not agree with his assessment. What is astounding is that he believes Arias to be innocent after she admitted to murder, and the murder was so violent and in no way self defense or evolved from prior abuse because she lived so far away and she went to see him without an invitation and likely even without him knowing she was coming.

I support anyone fighting for the wrongly convicted but he seems hellbent on fighting for everyone convicted in cases that were deemed newsworthy. With zero evidence of abuse by TA as JA claims, it is a head-scratcher as to why this guy stands behind her.

Krkrjx, I live close to David Camm. My daughter lives in his neighborhood. She believed he was guilty. When I found out what the prosecution hid from the defense and some things Stan Faith (prosecutor) made up and got away with, I am now convinced the first two juries didn't hear all the evidence. My only problem with that case is that the man who admitted to killing his family had no reason to even be in that neighborhood and didn't rob them or anything.

Camm was not there when the crime was committed. He had 11 neutral witnesses placing him at the church gym playing basketball. What I think may possibly be true is that he paid the guy to kill his wife and since the children were there, he just killed them also. Once all the evidence came out though, if I had been on that third jury, I would have found him non guilty.

One thing is sure. Camm never paid the killer. Then the prosecution tried to say Camm promised to pay him when he got the life insurance money but the money wasn't that much. My daughter held to the belief that Camm was guilty because the prosecutor said that Camm wanted his family dead because he had molested his little girl, Jill. My granddaughter tutored Jill in school and really loved that little girl. We now know the prosecutor's story was made up. It was a lie. But I don't think charges will ever be brought against the prosecutor in this county. And he is retired. It's just one of those cases where we may never know what went down. We do know Camm didn't commit the actual murder and served 12 years in prison because of a corrupt prosecutor.

In the Arias case, so many friends came forward immediately with stories of TA being stalked and pointed to Arias. Then there is all the evidence and Jodi's lies. Then there is the confession and all the premeditation. Truth is, this is one case that shouldn't have needed a prosecutor. She needs to go away.

 

[Love Never Fails]

GB believes that missy:jail: was defending herself, so with his thinking, she is not guilty of premed murder. :hills:

Poor guy doesn't know what self defense is. With all his analyzing of cases, someone needs to educate him on premeditation.

 

[Love Never Fails]

We are, apparently, experiencing a polar vortex situation like the one last winter. It is colder than normal now, just as it was last winter. The difference this time is this one is not expected to stay around for long...unlike the one that kept us in a deep-freeze most of last winter. This one will lift and temps will warm up again. I heard that October should be normal temps with November, December, January being rather balmy for the upper midwest. I hope what I heard is right on. Do not want winter this soon, or another winter like last year. :hills:

I hope you are correct. I love this Fall weather but last winter was hard on my aging bones. And I hate being kept inside due to ice and we had lots of it. My hubby had to use some vacation for snow days. That isn't fun.

 

[Love Never Fails]

The reasons I don't believe these were hers is because they were not the same frame color and because of the way they worded the description on the auction page. It read "as worn by", not "worn by".




I'm not sure her attorneys can stop whatever she decides to present in allocution, and that's where she showed off her art and survivor tshirt, etc. in first trial. Agree that it all makes her look worse, just as the survivor shirt did, but she's made no good choices that I've seen. As for St. Jude's, they have confirmed the donation was made, along with the dedication and who made it (Ben Ernst, one of her 'officials' apparently handling her art sales)

But LinTx, there was some question about the letter from St Jude's being legitimate. Remember, they usually never acknowledge the amount you give in their letter but this one listed the amount. I believe it was a setup. I am sure it will all come out by Sept. 29th. For now, I believe it was bogus.

 

[grammieto5]

All I want for Christmas is a new "Thanks" button. Again, thanks for all the great posts, all the information. Every time, well most of the time when I click on my thanks button there's a loud boing sound, I can refresh but what a pain! So again thanks everyone!

 

[YESorNO]

BBM

Yes please! I'm interested in everything to do with this crazy trial. Probably unhealthy. I can't help it. I can't look away….:shame:

After I had researched and I had enough of missy's:jail: supporters, I just deleted all my files on them.

I was satisfied that her supporters were just a really misguided bunch of sheep (with GB and the "innocent" website at the head- I did not go into the "innocent website, tho').

There are about 8-10 vocal supporters who are always making "comments" on various articles, etc. and others, "anonymous", etc. who agree with them.

They stir the pot,

if you know what I mean. Pretty sick, IMO, and even comical sometimes- what they believe. One supporter still believes that missy:jail: didn't murder Travis-that others did it.

They believe that Travis is evil, a pedophile, and an abuser of women. They believe everything missy:jail: has to say. :gaah:

They are fighting

right now.

Anyway I didn't post my findings on WS because I didn't feel it was necessary to give the supporters any validation on WS, in that they are in anyway important here- because they are not. I didn't

want to "dirty-up" what we believe- that missy:jail: is truly a murderer (premeditated murderer). It's just so amazing to me how some people can't see the truth of the matter. :gaah:

:seeya:

 

[YESorNO]

Maybe Jodi's mother? The motion to quash trial subpoena...would that be the same one or maybe one if the prosecution had asked for? Interesting Yes or No. I am waiting to see what we will learn about cameras.

Btw, is it cold yet in NY? I was out all day yesterday and it was in the 50's, finally got up to 65 by 5 pm but I had a sweater. Winds from the north. Guess we are looking at a cold winter.

The weather in Upstate NY is cold. Fall :autumn: is here and some of the leaves are turning- nights at 40 and days in the 50's already (got my woolies on and blankets on the beds). Snow will probably be in the forecast by next month, IMO. :gaah: I'm not looking forward to this Winter at all. :coldout: :snowflake: :scared:

 

[LinTX]

But LinTx, there was some question about the letter from St Jude's being legitimate. Remember, they usually never acknowledge the amount you give in their letter but this one listed the amount. I believe it was a setup. I am sure it will all come out by Sept. 29th. For now, I believe it was bogus.

A lot of people called St.Jude's about this, including one of our own members. Here's the first report that I saw :



It was later reported that this Ben Ernst is one of the 'officials' of her websites and one who handles some of the donated money from the "art" sales.
In the above, apparently 'JACK' is used by some TA supporters as short for Jodi Arias Convicted Killer

eta: to add info on Ernst