SIDEBAR #29- Arias/Alexander forum

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  • #801
Hi m1279, good to see you! No tv coverage,:gaah: tweets are allowed so fingers will be flying. On Monday jury selection begjns expected to last 2 or 3 weeks. Boy Az.. knows how to drag 'em out! figuring phase could last thru December. My God that's long. Here its usually a day or two and its over. I hope some of the potential jurors saw this tonight, it will help them. be sure to come back!!:welcomeback:

Hey chickie, thanks for the reply! I'm seriously so out of the loop right now. I finally got cable hooked up in my new place today and was watching HLN...I heard Monica Lindstrom say this should last until December. This is so ridiculous. I didn't realize it was just jury selection on Monday...UGH.

Thanks for the welcome back....I'm going to try to be here more often now that I FINALLY have internet. I've felt so disconnected. lol
 
  • #802
One really tiny thing about Jodi that has always bugged me way out of proportion is that word she used a few times during the trial: "de-edify." Specifically I think what she'd say was something like "I'd never de-edify Travis." She said it a few times, with a straight face, like she actually believed it was a word in the English language. By far the least of her sins, but, as I said, it always bugged me. Like a fish bone stuck in my throat.

Something else that has always bugged me is absolutely everything about Prepaid Legal. Yeah, they have all sorts of shiny facts and figures proving how completely not a scam it is, the successful people attesting to how legit and lucrative it is, they have their rah-rah conventions, Executive Director banquets, trips to Cancun, and they have Gus "the Weasel" Searcy assuring Juan Martinez, under oath, that it in no way resembles a pyramid,.. but come on. (I don't mean to imply any criticism of Travis because of his PPL involvement. I'm certainly in no position to judge how anyone else makes a living.)

In a perfect world, when Gus was on the stand not sounding at all like an infomercial, Juan would have asked the judge if he could approach, she'd have said yes, Juan would have made a bee-line for Gus and then just slapped him silly. Sigh... Imagine how much easier it would have been to watch this whole trial if courtroom etiquette allowed for a little Stooges action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZgVRJ-H8U

So anyway, I've been looking at Prepaid Legal stuff online. There's tons of it. (Fear not, Loyal Reader, I'm in no danger of drinking the Kool-Aid.) Turns out that one of the big things you're taught to do when signing up new associates is to have three-way phone calls between your prospect, yourself, and an "expert" who can answer all the prospect's questions (kind of like a phone-a-friend I guess). Before one of these calls, you "edify the expert to the prospect," which, in PPL parlance, means to tell the prospect that the expert you want them to talk to is super smart and successful and awesome and is better equipped to answer complex questions than you are yourself. You don't extol your expert to your prospect, sing his praises, or go on about his qualifications and achievements. And you don't edify your prospect about how PPL works. No, you edify your expert to your prospect -- because that makes perfect sense.

Maybe part of this is an attempt to appear humble? To imply that your prospect has such a probing intellect that he or she actually has complex questions? To let them know that PPL is a network of helpful, caring, fun people who want to help them be successful, whether they just want to make a few bucks now and then by selling legal insurance policies, or whether they want to maximize their earning potential by sharing this great business opportunity?

Here's a tidbit from a PPL how-to guide, more of which can be found at http://begintheascent.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/5step-process.pdf

The best way to help an EXPERT help you during a 3-way call:
● Send a text message to your support team when your prospect has been through Steps 1 & 2, to see
who is available.
● Edify your expert to your prospect, so they understand your expert knows more about the business
than they do. A generic 4-part introduction for an expert is: "They've helped a lot of people. They're
having success. They're fun to work with. They know the facts." Be normal, and use your own words, but
put ego aside and realize edification is an important part of a 3-way call and 3-way calls can make you
extremely successful in this business.
● Introduce your expert as Mr./Ms./Mrs. (and last name), then introduce your prospect by first name.


So, when Jodi says she would never ever ever want to de-edify Travis, that must be PPL lingo for "speak ill of".

It's still totally not a word, and a HUGE part of this trial has been "de-edifying Travis" in the most egregious way possible.

Anyway, kids, over and out. Be normal!
 
  • #803
Wonderful! I don't tweet but Yes or No, can you keep us updated. :).


Good morning :seeya:

I found this news article this AM on Tweeting from the courtroom, so I guess Cathy/Jeff are correct:

Cathy @courtchatter · 1h
Received clarification from @jeffgoldesq that there WILL BE media tweeting during jury selection of #JodiArias.

https://twitter.com/courtchatter

Jodi Arias' penalty phase retrial begins Monday

"...Now the media circus may be even bigger. You can count on Twitter as a way to communicate what's happening inside the courtroom..."

http://www.kpho.com/story/26641098/retrial-in-jodi-arias-penalty-phase-begins-monday

And this:

Is this the final chapter for Jodi Arias?

"...According to attorney Jeff Gold, there is a media room set up at the courthouse that holds 5-6 people only. This is the only place media is allowed to be during jury selection. We will see information coming from them as jury selection proceeds and I will do daily updates...."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2014/09...m_campaign=Feed:+CourtChatter+(Court+Chatter)


I wish I could help post the tweets on the Retrial thread that will be coming out of the courthouse on Monday and beyond. I have to leave that to others because it will use
too much of my bandwidth. :boohoo:
 
  • #804
Speaking of Beth Karas ...what is she up to these days ? Will she be covering at all?

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  • #805
Good morning :seeya:

I found this news article this AM on Tweeting from the courtroom, so I guess Cathy/Jeff are correct:

Cathy @courtchatter · 1h
Received clarification from @jeffgoldesq that there WILL BE media tweeting during jury selection of #JodiArias.

https://twitter.com/courtchatter

Jodi Arias' penalty phase retrial begins Monday

"...Now the media circus may be even bigger. You can count on Twitter as a way to communicate what's happening inside the courtroom..."

http://www.kpho.com/story/26641098/retrial-in-jodi-arias-penalty-phase-begins-monday

And this:

Is this the final chapter for Jodi Arias?

"...According to attorney Jeff Gold, there is a media room set up at the courthouse that holds 5-6 people only. This is the only place media is allowed to be during jury selection. We will see information coming from them as jury selection proceeds and I will do daily updates...."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2014/09...m_campaign=Feed:+CourtChatter+(Court+Chatter)


I wish I could help post the tweets on the Retrial thread that will be coming out of the courthouse on Monday and beyond. I have to leave that to others because it will use
too much of my bandwidth. :boohoo:

I understand Yes or No about your bandwidth. Thank you though. I know you would if you could. :)
 
  • #806
Speaking of Beth Karas ...what is she up to these days ? Will she be covering at all?

Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2

Beth works for Wild About Trial.
 
  • #807
Urgh!

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DSC02952(1).jpg No baby!!!!! Vet just said keep him posted!:gaah:

About Steve Benson..........you either love him or hate him. He drew a very moving tribute to an old friend (and a Bishop of the Ward my family went to back in the '60's) Kay LeSueur, who was killed in a car accident many years back. Benson is a Mormon, and many Mormons have had issues with his cartoons.
But I like him.:blushing:
 
  • #808
Urgh!

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View attachment 60106 No baby!!!!! Vet just said keep him posted!:gaah:

About Steve Benson..........you either love him or hate him. He drew a very moving tribute to an old friend (and a Bishop of the Ward my family went to back in the '60's) Kay LeSueur, who was killed in a car accident many years back. Benson is a Mormon, and many Mormons have had issues with his cartoons.
But I like him.:blushing:

Thank you for posting these pictures. So beautiful! :loveyou:
 
  • #809
Urgh!

View attachment 60104

View attachment 60106 No baby!!!!! Vet just said keep him posted!:gaah:

About Steve Benson..........you either love him or hate him. He drew a very moving tribute to an old friend (and a Bishop of the Ward my family went to back in the '60's) Kay LeSueur, who was killed in a car accident many years back. Benson is a Mormon, and many Mormons have had issues with his cartoons.
But I like him.:blushing:

Bernina, can you see the foal moving? She has the V shape for sure. Hope it is soon. Can you do a foal delivery date test kit from the colostrum?
 
  • #810
OMG- what a liar she is (video of her with Det. Flores) and her Ninjas story and all that baloney.

Reviewing the case with HLN, the elaborate fabric of cover-up lies entered into the diary astounds me. Not just false but so contrary to the week long premeditation, slash & stab murder, devious steps taken in the after math. On one side we have a calculating fiend and on the other side, a blubbering baffled sentimentalist sending white irises all for effect. And she doesn't put this on for five minutes--any actor can do a pretend turn--she still wears the mask for her swarm of supporters. Excuse me while I howl again at the "innocent survivor" who manufactures tee shirts to materialize her point. As for me, I think I know what domestic violence is, I saw it in that shower.
 
  • #811
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Wow! Maybe Apple got this right (or close). I just downloaded the latest update of 8.0.2 on ipad2 and everything is working great. No typing lag, whole page loads, no freezing yet, feels good. I was not able to post a pic from my photos by using the "manage attachments" link like I was before. This time the little filmstrip icon above the text box worked! First time for that.

This sentencing phase is getting interesting. Dare I hope it goes quicker than we expect?
 
  • #812
Bernina, can you see the foal moving? She has the V shape for sure. Hope it is soon. Can you do a foal delivery date test kit from the colostrum?

Baby's been moving more in the last 2 weeks, like a LOT!

I've been putting bag balm on her teats and udders for the last 2 weeks, no problem. Got the strips on Tuesday afternoon, went to go snag a drop of whatever she has in in teats, it's still kind of clearish, and all hell broke loose! She made it very clear that the ta ta's were not to be touched...........like, REALLY? Seriously, in just a mere 8 or 9 hours and don't go near the jugs? Tried again the following morning.........no go. On the up side, she's getting close, on the down side.............grrr, grrr, grrr! So I take a strip out with me all the time, going to get my son over here at some point to hold her front leg up and attempt another go at it. (the BF is NOT one to pull into this kind of thing, did I mention he is NOT a horse person?)
 
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  • #814
And now for the current weather....... we're under a severe thunderstorm warning and more! :gaah:Tornadoes already spotted down in Tucson.

http://dcourier.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&TypeID=1&ArticleID=136595&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086


Wild weather with "copious amounts" of rain and powerful winds are expected to hit Yavapai County early this morning, according to the National Weather Service in Flagstaff.

Thunderstorms, hail, strong winds, deluges and even tornadoes could be headed our way.


And from Wunderground:

Severe Thunderstorm Watch 508 remains in effect until 600 PM MST for the following locationsAZ . Arizona counties included are
Coconino Gila Maricopa Navajo Pinal Yavapai
 
  • #815
Urgh!

View attachment 60104

View attachment 60106 No baby!!!!! Vet just said keep him posted!:gaah:

About Steve Benson..........you either love him or hate him. He drew a very moving tribute to an old friend (and a Bishop of the Ward my family went to back in the '60's) Kay LeSueur, who was killed in a car accident many years back. Benson is a Mormon, and many Mormons have had issues with his cartoons.
But I like him.:blushing:

OMG, Bernina- look at that belly- she looks as if she will burst!!
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I did a little :websleuther: on Steve Benson and looks like he can anger some:

"...Steve’s work has been a regular cause of morning upset and/or delight around the country’s breakfast tables for 20 years..."

http://www.creators.com/editorialcartoons/steve-benson-about.html

Some of his work:

http://www.azcentral.com/topic/6D6C663F-0D13-43BB-B829-C6C738F2D109/
 
  • #816
Baby's been moving more in the last 2 weeks, like a LOT!

I've been putting bag balm on her teats and udders for the last 2 weeks, no problem. Got the strips on Tuesday afternoon, went to go snag a drop of whatever she has in in teats, it's still kind of clearish, and all hell broke loose! She made it very clear that the ta ta's were not to be touched...........like, REALLY? Seriously, in just a mere 8 or 9 hours and don't go near the jugs? Tried again the following morning.........no go. On the up side, she's getting close, on the down side.............grrr, grrr, grrr! So I take a strip out with me all the time, going to get my son over here at some point to hold her front leg up and attempt another go at it. (the BF is NOT one to pull into this kind of thing, did I mention he is NOT a horse person?)

Be really careful you don't express too much colostrum when checking the pH and Calcium levels. Colostrum is clear so it sounds as though she is ready to go soon. Is there any possibility the breeding dates are off? Because of the weather last winter, a lot of mares here delivered about 3 weeks late. Sounds as though things are progressing!
 
  • #817
Life-or-death jury selection for Jodi Arias

"...While Arias has the same defense team, trial strategy could be a lot different if Nurmi follows the advice of jury foreman William Zervakos, who shared his thoughts with the defense team when they met with him to discuss the case.

"Jodi Arias is her own worst enemy. She's a terrible defendant," said Zervakos, one of the four jurors who voted to spare her life. "I was candid with them. I told them it was best if she were not on the stand...."

http://www.wcvb.com/national/jodi-arias-trial-to-determine-life-or-death/28283166

Looks like the foreman has become a jury consultant now. :hills:
 
  • #818
Beth works for Wild About Trial.

So Beth may be commenting on all the salmon colors while tweeting too? Good :)

Miss WAT... haven't seen him in a while. And Mickey Daniels... need to see if he is back on commenting on you tube :giggle:
 
  • #819
Reviewing the case with HLN, the elaborate fabric of cover-up lies entered into the diary astounds me. Not just false but so contrary to the week long premeditation, slash & stab murder, devious steps taken in the after math. On one side we have a calculating fiend and on the other side, a blubbering baffled sentimentalist sending white irises all for effect. And she doesn't put this on for five minutes--any actor can do a pretend turn--she still wears the mask for her swarm of supporters. Excuse me while I howl again at the "innocent survivor" who manufactures tee shirts to materialize her point. As for me, I think I know what domestic violence is, I saw it in that shower.

When I was watching the 7 hours Jodi on HLN last night...was shocked and sat up when she was talking just nonsense..and she mentioned something about filling up at a gas station..which had NOTHING to do with the question asked. Was right before she talked about kicking the dog with her right foot to see if it moved. Both times the hair on my arms stood up... that she was transferring reality of her killing and afterwards. Gas in Utah..kicking Travis when he was on floor (and perhaps that is when camera went off and took that photo)

It was REALLY strange to listen to her tid bits..that were later deja vu on reality. :moo: Did anyone else get such glimpes/hair standing on end that those comments were there?
 
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