SIDEBAR #30- Arias/Alexander forum

[MeeBee]

Hi MeeBee, have they said how many jurors they now have? I keep hearing how many they have dropped, but never how many they have. I didn't think the had the all. Tia~ :seeya:

Sure Nore! Troy Hayden says there are 176 left now to choose from! :seeya:

 

[YESorNO]

Jury Selection for Jodi Arias Retrial is Picking Back Up Monday

"Monday morning will be a new round of questions for the potential juror’s in the highly anticipated Jodi Arias retrial. The remaining 169 jurors will be making their way back to Maricopa County Superior court in groups to be questioned by lawyers. These questions will be based on the lengthy questionnaire each one filled out last week. ...

The judge and lawyers will take up that motion on October 14th and it’s expected to be denied...."

http://thetrialdiaries.com/jury-selection-for-jodi-arias-retrial-is-picking-back-up-monday/

 

[YESorNO]

Couple things:

I don't think you're correct that Jodi can introduce these emails into her mitigation, without resistance. This is a mitigation phase, yes, but it's basically a trial. You can't just admit letters and emails, willy nilly. There has to be some grounds for it. And Juan can still call Chris Hughes to explain them away, which he would, no doubt. However, this email is old news.

And yes, you are missing quite a bit about Michael Kiefer. It's not about just getting a scoop. I don't really want to get into all of it, but there is a reason I choose to ignore what he posts/writes.

He has said many unsavory things to our KCL about Travis and his family in support of Arias. The thing that stands out most to me, from memory: "they're just upset (his siblings) because they had to find out what a pig their brother is."

He did a huge piece on Juan Martinez and the prosecutor's office and how corrupt they are. He seems to have a strong hatred of Juan and it shows in the articles he writes. He has said unsavory things about him to our KCL, as well.

He puts a pro defense spin on everything he writes. This is not imagined. It's been reported that he's not very respected among his peers because of this. Seems to have access to things, like this email, that no one else does. He is not printing it to be a good reporter. He is trying to spin opinion in Jodi's favor. Notice how he never leaks anything that favors the state? He also has leaked things like motions, who the foreman was before anyone knew, etc. this is not imagined either. Juan hinted in a motion earlier this year that he is aware of the DT running to this reporter to report what they want to get out there, but having things they don't want out under seal. He also insinuated some of the stuff is stuff that it was wrong to let out. When I myself asked him to maybe report things with less of a slant he told me he's "just reporting the truth" and blocked me on twitter.

And then there is the flat out lie he told about the defense having to walk out the side door everyday because of threats while Juan walks out the front door everyday so he can sign autographs everyday. KCL tells this one much better than me but that's the gist. None of that is true. The DT strutted by the media trucks every single day, smiling for the cameras, as evidenced by the many pictures of them doing so. While Juan walked out the side door everyday and off to his office, save for the one day when a news station was doing a story on him and autograph-gate happened.

I could go on but you get the point. There IS a reason why some posters, myself included, object to his tweets being posted here among the others and why some of us choose to scroll and roll. The things he has said about Travis is what most makes me not want to ever read anything he writes. You can of course continue to post his tweets if you still think some would appreciate reading them. I will continue to TRY to ignore them. But now you know the story there.

Thanks for the info. :seeya:
I do seem to recall posting an article by Kiefer on JM that wasn't very nice. I'm forgetting a lot of things- you must forgive me when I do. :blowkiss:

 

[Kensie]

See ya'll tomorrow. Sweet dreams. Justice is coming.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think those "hearsay" emails may be brought in for missy's:jail: mitigation:

On pg 6 of the new motion:

Mentions that Det. Flores:

"told this court that he didn't find anything out of the ordinary in Mr. Alexander's G-mail account ... Despite being characterized as ordinary by Det. Flores, it is of importance to note the relevant and excalupatory content found in Mr. alexander's G-mail account:

1. A January 27, 2007 email sent from Mr. Alexander to Chris and Sky Hughes complaining about their decision to tell Ms. Arias that he is abusive towards women.

2. Mrs Hughes' response that she sent to Mr. Alexander the same day, wherein she points out that Mr. Alexander refers to Jodi as "" and that he kepts his relationship with her a secret.

3. A response from Mr. Hughes sent on January 31, 2007 wherein he asserts that he believed Jodi would be his [Travis'] next victim and that Jodi was just another girl that he [Travis] was playing.

4. Mr. Alexander's response to Mr. Hughes that he sent on January 31, 2007, wherin he admits that with certain people "I am a bit of a sociopath."

5. An e-mail sent from Ms. Hughes to Mr. Alexander on this same topic wherein she describes Travis using Jodi as a "booty call". How he, Mr. Alexander, was abusive to Jodi and "not nice to girls", how he was beating her emotionally in part by making out without giving her a commitment. in this email Ms. Hughes further chastises Mr. Alexander for only giving Jodi 3am phone calls and make out fests...."

http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/JodiAriasMotionOct1.pdf
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This retrial will be all about mitigation (or should be).

Missy, in her new mitigation (see items 5 and 6 on page 4), is stating that she was "emotionally" abused by Travis, "emotional stress" :blah::blah::blah: .

Even tho' these e-mails were deemed "hearsay", I'm thinking she can state the emails as proof of said abuse and Jm cannot object to anything she says in her mitigation or that's how I understand

it. Those e-mails will be out there for the jurors to hear, even if JM says they are "hearsay". I hope I'm wrong.

If this is so, these are damning statements that were made by Chris and Sky Hughes in their e-mails for the new jurors to hear, no matter what they said after, IMO.

I'm a little bit worried. There could be jurors, just like the foreman who accepted ALV's assessment as proof of emotional abuse, now accepting these e-mails as proof of emotional abuse.

(Is this trial over yet- it's very stressful. :scared


I don't think that Kiefer is anyone's favorite reporter- not even Nurmi/Wilmott's.

He's just like any reporter who wants "the big scoop", the first to release "the big bombshell tonight" moment under his belt.

If Beth Karas had released this, no one would say anything, IMO- or would they then dislike her?? Anyway, why so much detain for Kiefer? I just don't understand the animosity towards him.:dunno:

Is there something I'm missing here?

Have you never read all he did to KCL(our own Katycoollady)? Or all the other things he said to her and others during the trial? He isn't just trying to get the first scoop. He is on team Jodi, hates JM, and is not at all a journalist who is fair.

 

[MeeBee]

Thanks for the info. :seeya:
I do seem to recall posting an article by Kiefer on JM that wasn't very nice. I'm forgetting a lot of things- you must forgive me when I do. :blowkiss:

Lol.

It's alright y or no. I just have a pretty strong opinion of Kiefer. I don't think the way he is trying to influence the trial is right. It's one thing to have an opinion about the trial. But you, as a reporter, are not supposed to inject it into your reporting or get involved as he has. Yes, there are journalists out there with opinions of Jodi. But most of these are either printed in editorial form or written for tabloid style publications. MK is a trial reporter for a reputable publication. This is not the way.

 

[Kensie]

MeeBee, weren't you in Poland during the original trial?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Couple things:

I don't think you're correct that Jodi can introduce these emails into her mitigation, without resistance. This is a mitigation phase, yes, but it's basically a trial. You can't just admit letters and emails, willy nilly. There has to be some grounds for it. And Juan can still call Chris Hughes to explain them away, which he would, no doubt. However, this email is old news.

And yes, you are missing quite a bit about Michael Kiefer. It's not about just getting a scoop. I don't really want to get into all of it, but there is a reason I choose to ignore what he posts/writes.

He has said many unsavory things to our KCL about Travis and his family in support of Arias. The thing that stands out most to me, from memory: "they're just upset (his siblings) because they had to find out what a pig their brother is."

He did a huge piece on Juan Martinez and the prosecutor's office and how corrupt they are. He seems to have a strong hatred of Juan and it shows in the articles he writes. He has said unsavory things about him to our KCL, as well.

He puts a pro defense spin on everything he writes. This is not imagined. It's been reported that he's not very respected among his peers because of this. Seems to have access to things, like this email, that no one else does. He is not printing it to be a good reporter. He is trying to spin opinion in Jodi's favor. Notice how he never leaks anything that favors the state? He also has leaked things like motions, who the foreman was before anyone knew, etc. this is not imagined either. Juan hinted in a motion earlier this year that he is aware of the DT running to this reporter to report what they want to get out there, but having things they don't want out under seal. He also insinuated some of the stuff is stuff that it was wrong to let out. When I myself asked him to maybe report things with less of a slant he told me he's "just reporting the truth" and blocked me on twitter.

And then there is the flat out lie he told about the defense having to walk out the side door everyday because of threats while Juan walks out the front door everyday so he can sign autographs everyday. KCL tells this one much better than me but that's the gist. None of that is true. The DT strutted by the media trucks every single day, smiling for the cameras, as evidenced by the many pictures of them doing so. While Juan walked out the side door everyday and off to his office, save for the one day when a news station was doing a story on him and autograph-gate happened.

I could go on but you get the point. There IS a reason why some posters, myself included, object to his tweets being posted here among the others and why some of us choose to scroll and roll. The things he has said about Travis is what most makes me not want to ever read anything he writes. You can of course continue to post his tweets if you still think some would appreciate reading them. I will continue to TRY to ignore them. But now you know the story there.

MeeBee great post and you said it better than I ever could. Those who were at the trial IN PERSON and came here to post their notes, often told about his unscrupulous behavior! I don't read his "crap" and I am not really counting on anyone to get the truth out to us. We should be able to see it all for ourselves...those of us who want justice for the Alexander family in memory of Travis. Of course, JSKS took that right away from us so she could give some more rights to the CONVICTED murderer. As for MK, let him go suck eggs. JMO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Y or N, my opinion of MK isn't any reflection at all on you and your posts. He brings out the worst in me, as does the defense team. And truly, I am getting so old now that my memory is failing too often. I likely remember him because of the truly bad things he said to the Alexander family. You just don't do that the the relatives of a victim.

 

[MeeBee]

MeeBee, weren't you in Poland during the original trial?

No I was actually living in Dallas with my mom during the original trial. We moved to Wroclaw, Poland during verdict watch, which was actually torture.

 

[YESorNO]

Total Lunar Eclipse Next Week Will Turn the Moon Blood Red

"The "blood moon" total lunar eclipse will rise during the full moon of Oct. 8 just before sunrise in North America, but red might not be the only color people see during the total eclipse. Weather permitting, it's possible that some sharp-eyed observers might be able to see some blue in the moon's glow. The event will be the second of four consecutive total lunar eclipses in 2014 and 2015, according to NASA officials...."

http://www.space.com/27332-total-lunar-eclipse-october-video.html


Eclipse visibility Map:

 

[YESorNO]

Y or N, my opinion of MK isn't any reflection at all on you and your posts. He brings out the worst in me, as does the defense team. And truly, I am getting so old now that my memory is failing too often. I likely remember him because of the truly bad things he said to the Alexander family. You just don't do that the the relatives of a victim.

I take no offense by anyone's posts/opinions, etc. and no offense taken here. :blowkiss:

I just eat some of this every now and again :floorlaugh:

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Total Lunar Eclipse Next Week Will Turn the Moon Blood Red

"The "blood moon" total lunar eclipse will rise during the full moon of Oct. 8 just before sunrise in North America, but red might not be the only color people see during the total eclipse. Weather permitting, it's possible that some sharp-eyed observers might be able to see some blue in the moon's glow. The event will be the second of four consecutive total lunar eclipses in 2014 and 2015, according to NASA officials...."

http://www.space.com/27332-total-lunar-eclipse-october-video.html


Eclipse visibility Map:

NASA has comfirmed that we have had "blood-red moons" on the first day of Passover and the first day of Sukkoth on back-to-back years seven times since 1 A.D. Three of these occurrences were connected to 1492 (the year the Jews were expelled from Spain by Queen Isabella) , 1948 (statehood for Israel and the War of Independence), and 1967 (the Six-Day War) — some of the most significant days in Jewish history. According to NASA - Four 'blood-red' TOTAL lunar eclipses WILL fall again on Passover and Sukkoth in 2014 and 2015… the same back-to-back occurrences at the time of 1492, 1948 and 1967.

We have Egypt and Syria in turmoil. Iran rushing towards nuclear emrichement, with their Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Friday used his annual message to Hajj pilgrims heading to Mecca to insult Israel and call for its "annihilation." "The conspiring enemy is aiming to stoke the fire of a civil strife among Muslims, to misdirect the motivation for resistance and jihad and to secure the Zionist regime and the servants of Arrogance (America - ed.) – who are the real enemies," said Khamenei. Calling for Muslim unity against Israel, the same Friday that Arab MK Ibrahim Sarsour (Ra'am-Ta'al) called for the establishment of the "United Islamic States" and bashed Israel as being "crueler than ISIS (Islamic State)."

Khamenei likewise accused Israel of having "no limit or boundaries regarding viciousness, cruelty, and trampling underfoot all human standards and ethnics. Crimes, genocide, mass destruction, the killing of children, women and the homeless...they take pride in." This form a leader that calls for the death of all Israelis.

 

[MeeBee]

@troyhaydenfox10: Three more jurors just dismissed. 176 total left out original 400 potential jurors make it through next round. #JodiArias court done.

 

[blefuscu]

Oh dear me. I just saw the "sex photos" of Jodi Arias in the trial. My poor poor eyes. Does anyone have some bleach!

 

[YESorNO]

Good morning :seeya:

Woke up this morning with a small alarm going off in my head. Where is Zoey and Bernina? :scared: It's been a while since they have been here and I'm worried.

 

[salberg7]

I just watched that hour of cross examination by Juan regarding the day the killer "allegedly" discovered pedophilia on poor Travis' computer. Juan proved that anything she said were all lies. Imagine how sick, tired & weary Travis was of the murderess. He was probably so relieved she moved back to Yreka. I still hold firm to my belief that Travis did not have a clue that Jodi was coming to visit him that fateful June day. I think she began to premeditate his murder way before May. She was clearly obsessed with him, in a crazy, demented way. She couldn't handle that he kept rejecting her, it tipped her over the edge.
I hope she takes the stand in this phase. She IS her own worst enemy. That disgusting smirk of hers. Her smugness, holier than thou attitude. She really gets under my skin.

 

[YESorNO]

Oh dear me. I just saw the "sex photos" of Jodi Arias in the trial. My poor poor eyes. Does anyone have some bleach!

BUT:

:floorlaugh:

 

[YESorNO]

(no foul language today -is she listening to me? :thinking

The Really Big Mean Dog School of Law- How to Cross Examine a Witness

"Did I ask you if you wanted to cover this topic ma’am-Arizona..."

http://reallybigmeandog.com/2014/10...school-of-law-how-to-cross-examine-a-witness/

 

[salberg7]

Yeah, those poses of JA from June 4 are disgusting. I think there are more that we haven't seen. I bet there is a lot more evidence we won't see until this penalty phase is over. I will be quite interesting on seeing what it is. I do not want to see any naked pics, though, of either party. I have seen enough already. Good day, everyone! Off to work. Looking forward to the updates tonight!