SIDEBAR #41 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Kensie]

I am so sick of the killer. Get rid of her and let Travis shine.
What has happened to the killer's lower face??

 

[RickshawFan]

How can you say you were sexually attacked at 4-5 years and not remember it????

a) She could claim someone told her about it. b) She could claim that she has an ongoing history of PTSD because of a buried memory.

 

[YESorNO]

The Stabby Arias Penalty Phase Re-Trial The ****tards Of The World Unite Edition :sigh:

http://reallybigmeandog.com/2015/02...ial-the-****tards-of-the-world-unite-edition/

 

[little ole me]

yes- this is a very strange statement, IMO. I wonder who told her she was sexually abused at 4-5, since she doesn't remember?- she's so foggy. Pftttt.

I wondered the same thing, my guess she is claiming that she knew of the attack but not the details, or she has been told something happened, but then again it is just her word. I also noticed Nurmi did not seem to follow up on that and I found that strange.

 

[Ricki]

I wondered the same thing, my guess she is claiming that she knew of the attack but not the details, or she has been told something happened, but then again it is just her word. I also noticed Nurmi did not seem to follow up on that and I found that strange.

It seems like when things are going bad and the defense knows they are getting nowhere, they throw in another story on the fly. Really, what father who witnessed a molestation of his daughter would not stop it then kick the carp out of the perp.
This is the attack you are talking about, is it not. IMO this a brand new, made up bunch of BS and that is why, Nurmi said nothing further. It's pretty pathetic.

 

[neesaki]

Just watching the video and Beth K is saying she may "bow out" during Geffner's and MF's or whateverhername's testimony because she can't imagine they could say anything new. I have to agree, don't think I can handle any more of their hogwash either. Nurmi alone is bad enough.

 

[Nore]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte doesn't think TA and Chatanya had sexual relations Nurmi says well he buried his face in between her legs and took her to nirvana

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 58s58 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte doesn't remember this #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 52s52 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi asks DeMarte if Deanna Reid an interview talked about having sexual intercourse with TADeMarte says she didn't read anything on that

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 22s22 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi says Deanna admitted it in court DeMarte states she didn't watch the testimony #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 30s31 seconds ago
DeMarte claims not to know details of Alexander's sexual relations with other women or that he actually had sex with them. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 24s25 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Nurmi wants to know about all these women in Travis's life and is expecting DeMarte to know all about them #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 20s21 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
DeMarte doesn't know about most of the women but some she does #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 6s7 seconds ago
Nurmi is going over all of TA's exes asking if De knew if they were sexual. De doesn't know. #jodiarias

Sometimes I think this sort of talk takes a certain a"man" to Nirvana.:laughing:

 

[neesaki]

So is he saying her license and experience did not qualify her to test and diagnose his client, then CMJA doesn't have the borderline personality disorder 'mental illness' that's listed in like three of her mitigating factors?

Also, IIRC didn't Geffner say in the guilt phase, that he hadn't personally administered or scored any testing in decades - that staff did all that (the 'royal we' he kept using)? Nurmi is a fool, IMO, JMO

Right, IOW, ethically speaking, the slimy defense can't use BPD as a mitigating factor. Sounds right to me. Then again , what does Nurmi know about ethics. Someone needs to tell Nurmi he can't have it both ways. I swear, he's starting to remind me more and more of his killer client.

 

[krkrjx]

I am so sick of the killer. Get rid of her and let Travis shine.
What has happened to the killer's lower face??

Jowls. Not at all strange on a goddess.

 

[Val1]

yes- this is a very strange statement, IMO. I wonder who told her she was sexually abused at 4-5, since she doesn't remember?- she's so foggy. Pftttt.

Imo, she has once again taken a grain of truth and twisted it to her own benefit... she's a year older than her brother and iirc correctly it was reported that she had taken a baseball bat to his head when he was about four.... so unless he was showing her his bits, which to be honest is pretty common at that age as kids compare, then I'm guessing that's her basis for "abuse". You can bet that's also about when the dreaded wooden spoon first made it's appearance.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1301/21/ddhln.01.html

"HAWKINS: Yes, absolutely. There were several times that I had observed, when I was babysitting, sort of very aggressive behavior from Jodi towards her brother.

One incident in particular, I was called to babysit on a weekend night, I believe it was, and I was in the kitchen cooking them dinner, and they were in Jodi`s room, I believe, and they were just kind of interacting with each other. And all of a sudden, I just heard Carl just let out this bloodcurdling scream. I went in there and he had a pretty good knot on the top of his head. Jodi was standing there and Carl was crying, and he kept trying to tell me that she hit him. He was probably about three or four at the time.

PINSKY: Hit him with what, like her fist?

HAWKINS: No, with a baseball bat."

 

[Val1]

Right, IOW, ethically speaking, the slimy defense can't use BPD as a mitigating factor. Sounds right to me. Then again , what does Nurmi know about ethics. Someone needs to tell Nurmi he can't have it both ways. I swear, he's starting to remind me more and more of his killer client.

I have a question, wasn't it determined that none of the DT's "mental illness" "experts" were even qualified to give a diagnosis of anything in AZ?

 

[YESorNO]

Michael K. Jeanes, Clerk of Court
*** Electronically Filed ***
02/06/2015 8:00 AM

02/03/2015

TRIAL MINUTE ENTRY
DAY THIRTY-SIX

LET THE RECORD REFLECT that Exhibit 855, the un-redacted copy of the exhibit, is
deemed as offered only to preserve for the Appellate Court and not to go to the Jury.
Defendant’s Motion to Preclude Witness is argued and denied for the reasons as stated on
the record.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT that an un-redacted copy of Exhibit 853 is to be given to
the Court by Defense on 2/4/15 and is split as Defense Exhibit 853.001 and deemed offered only
to preserve for the Appellate Court and not to go to the Jury...

Dr. Janeen DeMarte is sworn and testifies.
State’s Exhibit 863 is marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 863 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibit 864 is marked for identification.
State’s Exhibits 865-868 are marked for identification.
State’s Exhibit 869 is marked for identification...

LET THE RECORD REFLECT that juror questions #15, #16 and #17, from the
uncompleted testimony of the Defendant, were not asked and filed this date.
Filed: Juror Questions (3)...

The Jury is not present
The parties discussed the release of the transcript dated 10/30/14.
1:34 p.m. The Jury is now present.
Dr. Janeen DeMarte testifies further.
State’s Exhibit 870 is marked for identification.
State’s Exhibit 871 is marked for identification.
State’s Exhibits 872-877 are marked for identification....

The State offers State’s Exhibit 872 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 876 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 874 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibits 878 and 879 are marked for identification.
State’s Exhibits 880 and 881 are marked for identification...

The State offers State’s Exhibits 878, 880 and 881 and Exhibits 878 and 880 are admitted
in evidence....

State’s Exhibit 881 is admitted in evidence....

4:10 p.m. Court stands at recess until 2/4/15 at 9:30 a.m. in this division...

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/022015/m6685995.pdf
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Michael K. Jeanes, Clerk of Court
*** Electronically Filed ***
02/06/2015 8:00 AM

02/04/2015

TRIAL MINUTE ENTRY
DAY THIRTY-SEVEN

LET THE RECORD REFLECT that on 2/3/15 Exhibit 853 was temporarily released to
Defense and returned this date...

Defense Motion to Preclude Witness is argued.
Various rulings made as stated on the record...

Dr. Janeen DeMarte, having previously been sworn, testifies further.
State’s Exhibit 884 is marked for identification.
State’s Exhibit 885 is marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 885 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibits 886-889 are marked for identification.
State’s Exhibit 890 is marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 886 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 888 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibits 891-901 are marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 891 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 893 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 895 and it is admitted in evidence..
State’s Exhibits 902-904 are marked for identification..

The State offers State’s Exhibit 899 and it is NOT admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 902 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 903 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 904 and it is NOT admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibit 905 is marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 905 and it is admitted in evidence..

LET THE RECORD REFLECT that Exhibit 904 is temporarily released to the State and
returned with a redacted version prior to reconvening. Exhibit 904 is replaced with the redacted copy.
State’s Exhibit 906 is marked for identification...

The State again offers State’s Exhibit 904 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibits 907 and 908 are marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 907 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibit 909 and 910 are marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 909 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 901 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibit 911 is marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 911 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 615 and it is admitted in evidence.
State’s Exhibit 912 is marked for identification.
State’s Exhibits 913 and 914 are marked for identification.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 913 and it is admitted in evidence.
The State offers State’s Exhibit 914 and it is admitted in evidence...

3:31 p.m. Court stands at recess until 2/5/15 at 9:45 a.m. in this division...

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/022015/m6685996.pdf

 

[YESorNO]

Link: http://i31.tinypic.com/24p02s4.jpg
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Can Borderline Personality Disorder Spare Jodi Arias From The Death Penalty?

"...There’s no evidence to suggest that at any time Jodi Arias ever experienced psychosis or that she has a severe mental illness. Remember, borderline personality disorder or even antisocial personality disorder are not considered to be “severe mental illnesses.”

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/can-...rder-spare-jodi-arias-from-the-death-penalty/
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Jodi Arias sentencing retrial: doctor returns to stand (video clip only)

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/clip/11107713/jodi-arias-sentencing-retrial-doctor-returns-to-stand
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It's -4 degrees, but at least it's not snowing.

 

[Ricki]

Nurmi said TA had Borderline Personality Disorder also. Really! How do you get a dead person to take the test? Nurmi comes out with the craziest lines.

 

[YESorNO]

I spoke too soon- it's snowing

 

[Ricki]

I spoke too soon- it's snowing

UGH! I feel for you. How many feet do you have now? It is to cold to melt.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Jodi Arias: Document placed under seal

"In the Jodi Arias penalty phase retrial a curious item appeared on the docket..."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/02/jodi-arias-document-placed-under-seal.html?spref=tw

Of course everyone but Lawrence knows that this is not a secret. I think I posted it a couple of days ago under a "peanut gallery" post.

I noted one of the posters in the article said MMC is divorced because he cheated oh his wife. Figures. Wish she could testify as to what witness 1 is really all about.

 

[atthelake]

Gooooooooooood Morning !!

Update :After 38 days in the hospital my great nephew, who had Stevens Johnson Syndrome, is going home today.

Yipee !

Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2

 

[Dmacky]

Most certainly it was either Dr.Samuel or Alice Layfette or perhaps it was one of the 7 dwarfs...

:laugh: One of the 7 dwarfs

 

[Dmacky]

Mesa Det. Smith- that's if Lawrence is finished with deposing him?

Still trying to catch up from the last two days, but I think my eyes need a longer "timeout" from this computer.
Two different times while reading posts that mention LDS,....I read it as LSD. Then I just read YESorNO's post and THOUGHT it said:
Mesa Det. Smith- that's if Lawrence is finished with DECOMPOSING him? :giggle:

I think maybe I need JA's help learning to read, you know ~ how she always tried to help, encourage, demand that her own mom read some damn books to "better" herself. She was also very helpful with her aging grandparents who she lived with for free...NOOO not by helping to clean their house, run errands or make their meals. But more importantly, correcting their grammar.