SIDEBAR #42 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Bernina]

I agree with you here but, I also think CMJA believes she's going to be a star in prison...just like she is online with her *fans*. She may very well have groupies in there. I think she needs to be locked up completely alone so she can face herself and what she has done....for the rest of her life.

Even criminals have scruples :floorlaugh: CMJA may be able to fool some of the people, all the time (her fan club), but in prison, there's no such thing as giving someone a benefit of a doubt, looking for the "good" things about someone, it's all about your jacket.
She already dropped a name when she got into an altercation with an inmate at Estrella ("I was defending myself") so she's already got the "snitch" label.
She's been busted with contraband, so no one's going to be happy if they have to share of cell with her. She's a "bad" loca, not a "good" loca.........the yard is better off not having her around because she's going to cause nothing but trouble that's going to put other's in the hole, or have privileges taken away.
They're probably well aware that she lies, and she doesn't care if it's about people in authority.(Her sad tale of getting in trouble for sharing food, even though she's been in PC since 2013, like how did she do that?) A lot of the inmates in Estrella spent time in Joe's House and they KNOW that story is nonsense. Joe's tough, but he's fair.

She's just toast anyway you slice it.

I saw "The Bad Seed" years ago, another one is "The Good Son" (Macaulay Culkin)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...BX-x0t2MRMQOoHLcVbZMXE9A&ust=1423951539657265

 

[Dmacky]

It's REALLY getting to be a point of contention:
Wednesday when I went in, the Doc referred me to an Orthoped specialist, after x-rays and temp splint,
Thursday referral was received by O specialist office,
Friday, TODAY, I had to track the referral from my doc to the O Specialist because they had not called,
Called Specialist office, got machine, 5 hours later get a call back,
They don't take my insurance....."You could always go to the emergency room", (and she asks if I have x-rays, like, lady, from Wednesday, so it's going to look different!)
Called regular Doc, press 5 again and record message, "dude, like WTF?" <----ok, I WANTED to say that but I didn't,
Waiting for a return call to see if they will refer me to someone who TAKES my insurance so I can get this all plastered up before it shifts and heals the wrong way or the referred doc takes President's day off on Monday.

This is why I don't bother going to the doc for anything I can just slap a bandage on, super glue, or just ignore.

I swear, If no one calls me back, I'm just going to duck tape a pillow around this foot and say to heck with it. I'm super PO'd. I've got stuff to do!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!! It hurts, but after an emergency c-section, and another kid that gave me 4th degree tears when he came out, this is a cake walk.

This weekend: I WILL be under my truck splicing wires back together next to the O2 sensor that got fried, cast or no cast, and I WILL be putting up the round pen panels with Evie.
When you have PTSD, Chronic Depression, and Panic Disorder, EVERY GOOD DAY COUNTS! EVERYDAY YOU WAKE UP COUNTS! EVERYDAY YOUR MEDS WORK COUNTS!

My lil' bro who has the same "stuff" is on a "vaccay" in Hawaii...........check out these cool pics:

Love my little brother!:loveyou:

I had to re-read your post again Bernina, because at first I missed the part that your brother was on vacay in Hawaii...I thought those were pictures of your land, house etc. until I got to the last one..:thinking: There's not an ocean in Arizona!! :giggle: I was Jealous with a capital J ! Your brother is really nice looking, I might add.

I hate calling Dr.'s or anyone these days...until you listen to a RECORDING yack forever, then push 5..then push 3..................It's maddening! Those days of actually talking to a live person are over. You really need to get that foot taken care of Bernina! It never fails though, it's always a weekend or holiday when you need answers today!

Can you maybe call your original Dr. back and have THEM find an orthopedist who takes your insurance and set up an appointment for you?

I too have a lot of Depression, and Panic Disorder. I tend to withdraw from people. I have no energy or a desire to do much of anything these days. I am on an antidepressant, and it helps some. I have what is called treatment resistance depression. I have tried 13 AD's. The only one that has even remotely helped me at all is a very old one called Parnate. It's hardly ever used anymore. My pharmacy has to special order it for me.

 

[Bernina]

Thanks again BDE luved the Bad Seed. I'm still watching lol. The Birds. What a trip down memory lane. The only movies I cant watch are those with ventriloquist dummies. Now they freak me out. I kinda don't like clowns now either. That came from a scene in a movie about John Wayne Gacy. Luved Brian Dennehy in that role tho.

Like "Magic" with Anthony Hopkins?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...pxDdJOqNVJkZTZUdAjx7rn3A&ust=1423951996830745


"The Birds" was crazy! Saw it on TV when I was real little, and my dad always had exotic and domestic birds around. I just figured "that lady" did something awful to get those birds so mad!

 

[Paintr]

Just replying to my own post........

Yep, this sure looks like the kind of guy you want to email his 9 year old daughter if you're a pedo...................NOT.

What was he pointing at? Shades of Babe Ruth. :waitasec:

 

[Bravo]

Like "Magic" with Anthony Hopkins?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...pxDdJOqNVJkZTZUdAjx7rn3A&ust=1423951996830745


"The Birds" was crazy! Saw it on TV when I was real little, and my dad always had exotic and domestic birds around. I just figured "that lady" did something awful to get those birds so mad!

LOL That would be the one that started my fear HA!!!! Yes she must have debased those birds some how.

 

[Bernina]

I had to re-read your post again Bernina, because at first I missed the part that your brother was on vacay in Hawaii...I thought those were pictures of your land, house etc. until I got to the last one..:thinking: There's not an ocean in Arizona!! :giggle: I was Jealous with a capital J ! Your brother is really nice looking, I might add.

I hate calling Dr.'s or anyone these days...until you listen to a RECORDING yack forever, then push 5..then push 3..................It's maddening! Those days of actually talking to a live person are over. You really need to get that foot taken care of Bernina! It never fails though, it's always a weekend or holiday when you need answers today!

Can you maybe call your original Dr. back and have THEM find an orthopedist who takes your insurance and set up an appointment for you?

I too have a lot of Depression, and Panic Disorder. I tend to withdraw from people. I have no energy or a desire to do much of anything these days. I am on an antidepressant, and it helps some. I have what is called treatment resistance depression. I have tried 13 AD's. The only one that has even remotely helped me at all is a very old one called Parnate. It's hardly ever used anymore. My pharmacy has to special order it for me.

BBM:
That's a funny pic of him! He did a panorama going up and down! The waterfall is at the bottom of the pic. He'll go back to Seattle and his hair will be blonde again. He's in a good place, mentally, took a lonnnnnggggg time. He went off his meds 3 years ago and thought he could beat the PTSD, Panic, and depression, held on by his fingernails for a year. I finally had to tell him, "Hey, you know what it feels like without the meds, get back on them and start living life, instead of doing life!" Now he's back to the crazy dude who is always there for me as I am for him.
.........and he's single!:blushing: He's just starting back into the dating scene, he didn't want to bring baggage into anyone's life.

Yep, with the recordings, and then the old "we'll get back to you. Please don't leave additional messages as it may take 24 hours to respond."

Called my MD (left a message after pushing #6) and waiting. :waiting:

So........a fellow "Drug of the Month Club" member? I hear ya! I got to the "treatment resistant stage" and my then quack put me on Cymbalta <------pure hell for a year. Double the therapeutic level. That was 2004, I think. When the doc wanted to up it, I quit cold turkey, had some old effexor and starting taking a very small dosage (Quack fired me at the same time I fired her, seriously, she never had my blood run, >got to watch the kidneys, liver, something like that<, and then she got into my clinic records and changed the dosage she had prescribed to cover HER butt, and I had my prescription bottle, with the dosage, of Cymbalta with me!)

Effexor 75mg 2x a day
Alprazolam (Xanax) .5mg 4x a day

And that ^ has kept my life more of "Quality" than "Quantity". I still have anniversaries and triggers. I avoid social situations because I want to, I just don't enjoy them. I'm incredibly suspicious of people's intent. I rarely count on anyone. I like being a hermit. And hanging with my animals.

I was diagnosed in 1989, disabled in 1993, and struggled with my job until the end of 1995. (all while raising 2 kids on my own)

Just DON'T GIVE UP!!! When one doesn't work, go to another. If you have side effects that interfere with your life, you're on the wrong med or too much of it. Less is MORE. If it's NOT broke, Don't fix it.

Many times, side effects are caused because we are given too much of a medication and our bodies are telling us, "Hey, getting a bit toxic here." I can take regular Effexor, but not extended release, it builds up in my system BIG time.

So from one "head case" who's been dealing with psychotropic meds going on 26 years, to another fellow "head case"......HANG IN THERE! Seriously!:fence:

 

[kaRN]

Watching the movie right now on TCM.


Christine realizes Rhoda is a sociopath:

[video=youtube;F1kOXfKJSM8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kOXfKJSM8[/video]

I watched today along with you guys. Mom might have a touch of the BPD herself IMHO

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Thanks again BDE luved the Bad Seed. I'm still watching lol. The Birds. What a trip down memory lane. The only movies I cant watch are those with ventriloquist dummies. Now they freak me out. I kinda don't like clowns now either. That came from a scene in a movie about John Wayne Gacy. Luved Brian Dennehy in that role tho.

You and other 'sleuthers are most welcome. I'm an avid fan of "old movies" and try to watch several films that I haven't seen each week. There are also many "old" movies that I watch repeatedly (if I don't own them).

The Bad Seed always freaks me out, and now it has even more "freak" qualities when associated with Jodi Arias

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

LOL That would be the one that started my fear HA!!!! Yes she must have debased those birds some how.

I wish those birds could debase Ms. Arias :angel:

 

[Dmacky]

Like "Magic" with Anthony Hopkins?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct...pxDdJOqNVJkZTZUdAjx7rn3A&ust=1423951996830745


"The Birds" was crazy! Saw it on TV when I was real little, and my dad always had exotic and domestic birds around. I just figured "that lady" did something awful to get those birds so mad!

OMG I have been trying to remember the name of that movie for the last couple of months!
I took my mom and brother to see Magic. I was in my teens at the time and wasn't a bit afraid of scary movies back then. There was one line in that movie that my mom and I both laughed at and we said it to each other for years !
"I hope I don't die foy-st" < (first)
That's the ONLY I remember about that movie !!

My daughters picked it up too from my mom and I, and one of them asked me what movie that was from, and I couldn't remember to save my life! Thanks Bern!
I don't think I could watch it now that I'm all grown up :smile:

I can't stand to even see commercials about that movie Chuckie?? I refuse to watch that. And the movie The Birds, I saw that when one of my friends was having a slumber party, It was scary but I was with a lot of girls ~ which made it easier to watch.

I am NOT a fan of any horror movie and I refuse to watch them.

 

[Hatfield]

I watched today along with you guys. Mom might have a touch of the BPD herself IMHO

Yes, LOL I thought so too. She freaked me out almost as much as the daughter.

And I think it was intended in the movie for Mom to come across like that.

I think the 1 man in the movie who claimed it was genetics said he felt it would skip a generation. And so I think the movie writers purposely gave the Mom a small dose of what the daughter and Gram had.

I love the way they talked about Gram in the movie. We really had to dig that info out of the story. Great stuff.

 

[Spellbound]

I'll add to the antidepressant fiascos. for years I was diagnosed as depressed (argued with one doc and walked out when she said I just couldn't accept the changes that come with age --- I was 45! and the happiest time of my life with my first grandchild on the way, engaged, and other good happenings). For years I was bounced from one antidepressant to another, and each one made me feel hyper and agitated.
Stopped all of them.

A few years ago my doc suggested a very small dose of Cymbalta for my fibromyalgia and a miracle happened. It has had the added benefit of a "cure" for my constant anxieties (I was a huge worrier), tears at the slip of a glass, and even helped a lot with my insomnia.. I had tried to tell them I felt more anxious than depressed, and this proved it to me.

But it wasn't without a lot of drawbacks. The first few days I took it at night I felt crappy and did not sleep at all, so stopped (at nurse's direction). Then, afree talking with doc, I started taking it in the morning ... so-so with the sleep. Eventually discovered that I cannot take Cymbalta after 8 am or I have trouble sleeping. But overall, the calmness I feel now compared to the constant anxiety over every little thing is well worth my having stuck it out. It has been my saving grace.

Effexor made me agitated... like a speed addict, I think. Crazy how we all react differently to these meds. :thinking:

 

[Truth Detector]

OMG I have been trying to remember the name of that movie for the last couple of months!
I took my mom and brother to see Magic. I was in my teens at the time and wasn't a bit afraid of scary movies back then. There was one line in that movie that my mom and I both laughed at and we said it to each other for years !
"I hope I don't die foy-st" < (first)
That's the ONLY I remember about that movie !!

My daughters picked it up too from my mom and I, and one of them asked me what movie that was from, and I couldn't remember to save my life! Thanks Bern!
I don't think I could watch it now that I'm all grown up :smile:

I can't stand to even see commercials about that movie Chuckie?? I refuse to watch that. And the movie The Birds, I saw that when one of my friends was having a slumber party, It was scary but I was with a lot of girls ~ which made it easier to watch.

I am NOT a fan of any horror movie and I refuse to watch them.

Reminds one of Cliff Robertson's Twilight Zone episode.

The clip is rather poor quality:

[video=youtube;PxlY9FlqR9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxlY9FlqR9Q[/video]

 

[Bernina]

Hmmmmmmm.............:thinking:

Wonder if this whole bankruptcy thing with Ma and Pa Arias has something to do with the "wrongful death" suit that Travis' family will be undertaking after the trial? (Of course, who can believe "Radar On Line" who publicized the story?)

*Alexander family attorney DID make an announcement after the first verdict, 2013, that they would be filing a suit*

What have they actually contributed to CMJA in the last 7 years? Attorney fees? Her living expenses? Her clothes? Commissary?Eh..........

There's this real dandy recording you get when a collect call comes in from a Prison facility, "Press #1 if you accept the charges, Press #2 or disconnect if you do NOT accept the charges". Someone could have put the brakes on and just told CMJA "Write a letter."

I don't know about you, but if you're on a tight budget, you stay at a Hotel 6 (currently $52/night), or frequent local Hostels. (I just looked a few up, private room for $11.99) http://www.hostelworld.com/search?s...oenix&date_from=2015-02-15&date_to=2015-02-18

When they closed their restaurant, didn't they think about selling it or the equipment? Or where they just leasing all of it?
$213,000 against their home..... and this all occurred because CMJA was in jail?

What did they spend on CMJA? And if they're so "financially invested" in her, why haven't they taken the stand in her behalf?

I don't get it.

 

[Hatfield]

OMG I have been trying to remember the name of that movie for the last couple of months!
I took my mom and brother to see Magic. I was in my teens at the time and wasn't a bit afraid of scary movies back then. There was one line in that movie that my mom and I both laughed at and we said it to each other for years !
"I hope I don't die foy-st" < (first)
That's the ONLY I remember about that movie !!

My daughters picked it up too from my mom and I, and one of them asked me what movie that was from, and I couldn't remember to save my life! Thanks Bern!
I don't think I could watch it now that I'm all grown up :smile:

I can't stand to even see commercials about that movie Chuckie?? I refuse to watch that. And the movie The Birds, I saw that when one of my friends was having a slumber party, It was scary but I was with a lot of girls ~ which made it easier to watch.

I am NOT a fan of any horror movie and I refuse to watch them.

Your bringing back some great memories of these movies. Or not so great depending on how you look at it. LOL

Agree about "Magic" One of my favorites of the horror genre. Real creepy.

Also loved the Birds.

One that I havent heard mentioned is if anyone remember "Pit and the Pendelum". A Vincent Price classic.

That was one of those movies I saw as a kid and didnt know what I was getting myself into. Nightmares for weeks. LOL

Another one that totally surprised me and creeped me out was the ORIGINAL "Texas Chainsaw Massacre". I normally dont like a blood + guts movie but this 1 floored me. I had heard all about it and never saw it until I was in college years. So I thought this would be just another stupid blood+guts movie. Well, it scared the crap out of me the way it was filmed from 1st person point of view. Really creeped me out. And based on a true story to boot which added to the creep factor.

Another thing to jog peoples memories. Remeber "Night Gallery". A weekly horror short to scare the beejebus out of us. LOL

 

[tlckgram]

I feel the same way Spell. The thing that bothers me so much is all the new crap JA has brought up, and she is still playing the victim. If she gets LWOP, all of this rehashing and trashing of Travis will have been for nothing. In hindsight, I think we all wish she would have just been sentenced in 2013. As time has gone on she's been able to get more crazy supporters, and more time to sell her tracings art. She needs to be in Perryville as soon as possible. I also feel that the verdict will be split again, and I just hate that she was given another chance for "the Jodi show." She is a manipulative LIAR and evil to the bone.

My heart aches for the Alexander family

I think for the most part we all want her to get the DP. I don't think if she is give life that this retrial of the penalty phase was all for naught. So much of everything she lied about is exposed, plus more than even some of us realized (fake text message for one). And I seriously doubt she is gonna waltz into Perryville and be queen of the compound. There is a very pronounced hierarchy in prisons and nobody is gonna just step aside to crown this pathetic woman. There are too many women in prison that have been abused for real that are gonna just NOT let her slide into Easy Street. Life in prison actually means less protection for that evil person. JMO

 

[Truth Detector]

I wish those birds could debase Ms. Arias :angel:

Pretending I didn't read... :winkaway:

 

[Nore]

Excellent post!

BBM

I, too, believe LWOP will be much worse than getting the DP! If the family did not want it so badly, I would be quite happy for that decision. I can foresee her trying to be the "boss" --- that should go over like a lead balloon. Whatever the decision, I hope she is completely unhappy.

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Hi , no matter which way she goes she will spend at least ( I believe) 4 years in solitary. Then GP. must be earned. She has been in trouble already when first in GP.. fighting etc.,She will never set a good record.:jail:

 

[Spellbound]

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Hi , no matter which way she goes she will spend at least ( I believe) 4 years in solitary. Then GP. must be earned. She has been in trouble already when first in GP.. fighting etc.,She will never set a good record.:jail:

Thank you, Nore. I knew there would be a time period in solitary, even with LWOP, but I didn't know approximately how long. Four years can feel very long, on top of what she has had so far.

 

[Sweet Fox]

Watching the movie right now on TCM.


Christine realizes Rhoda is a sociopath:

[video=youtube;F1kOXfKJSM8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kOXfKJSM8[/video]

I watched the Bad Seed this morning too. There are 2 versions of this movie and I saw them both but the original with Patty M. is my fav.

Last night there were 2 good shows on Snapped. One was about CFJA and the other was about Nate Abraham, an 11 year old who shot a killed a man for no reason. This kid, like Jodie, is a bad seed - born evil.