Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #14

[Ruflossn]

Frog and Get Smart~

I am out for the night. I am exhausted. All the words on the posts are running together.

xxooxxoo

 

[LifeSaver]

You have confused me now. I thought you said LE can't be trusted "confused"

 

[tapu]

If this is true then the actions of OSBI make even less sense. Because what OSBI should be doing is trying to bridge this gap and make people feel confident and comfortable with LE. That isn't happening.

After the press conference I think I have a much greater understanding of what LE is doing. Many others have mentioned it and tapu has been discussing the type of crime it may have been.

I think they figure locals are involved and there were non-shooters. So I don't think LE cares what you, I or anybody else knows or thinks, they are only concerned with the specific people or person they are targeting.

I don't agree with this approach at all. I think it is very high risk and doesn't allow for a plan B.

I would think that plan B would be turning the Oklahoma drug subculture inside out. I bet Narcotics is hitting people they know hard about this. Roll over on this shooter and get some serious cred to use when you need it.

The natural parallel is the emotional approach: the 911 call. That's to get a non- to come forward. As you say, Albert, the local non-shooter who fears saying anything (wow, would you fear it or what at that point?) but is sick to death about what happened.

 

[LifeSaver]

South Padre Island is getting high winds already, from Dolly. Happy I'm not in Dollys path.

 

[LifeSaver]

I'm sure this well never be forgotten, solved I don't have a lot of faith it well ever be solved,there just isnt many clues to work with.I watch lots of "cold case" and in the end a person is finally caught, and they confess to many murders and even help locate the buried bodies. Maybe, this could be the case.

 

[Nickelfoo]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but didnt Harvey Pratt work on the "Girl Scout Murders" back in the 70's? I read a book on that a few months back and I seem to remember his name. I think he was a detective on that case?

 

[LifeSaver]

I don't connect a Ruth, do you mean a family member? He has a sisters Carol, Betty and two brother Bobby and Eddie

 

[LifeSaver]

I'm not sure, another unsolved case. If I remember right wasn't there 3 girls killed at Locust Grove?

 

[frogjustfrog]

This story stuck out to me because of the "runaway" reference. Initials of juvenile identified as C.H.

18 yr old arrested on June 18th in Welling (which is about 2 hrs from Weleetka).

Could be totally unrelated...

June 27th - TAHLEQUAH DAILY PRESS —
Cherokee County prosecutors charged a Welling man Wednesday for possessing a sawed-off shotgun/rifle and harboring runaway child.
Wade L. Ritchie, 18, was arrested by Tahlequah Police Officer Luke Hixon June 18. Ritchie allegedly had in his possession a shotgun with a barrel only 17.5 inches and overall length of only 24.5 inches.

Ritchie was also allegedly housing a runaway juvenile, identified in court documents as C.H.

Article: http://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/local/local_story_179093846.html
Court Records (search on Ritchie, Wade - case filed on on 6/25): [URL="http://www.odcr.com/detail.php?Case=011-CF%20%200800234&County=011-"]http://www.odcr.com/detail.php?Case=011-CF%20%200800234&County=011-[/URL]
(Note: Some of the other court records under same name are for his father I believe, because of the year)
Map – It’s about 2 hrs from Weleetka to Welling (Welling is very close to Tahlequah, NE of Weleetka): [URL="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=weleetka,+ok&daddr=welling+ok+map&sll=35.92242,-94.899902&sspn=1.05648,2.39502&ie=UTF8&ll=35.630512,-95.52063&spn=1.060366,2.39502&z=9"]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=weleetka,+ok&daddr=welling+ok+map&sll=35.92242,-94.899902&sspn=1.05648,2.39502&ie=UTF8&ll=35.630512,-95.52063&spn=1.060366,2.39502&z=9[/URL]
Myspace of Wade L. Richtie (last login 6/16): http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=263320463

If you go to the Myspace for Wade Richie, then click on his friend, Felicia, go to her page, and she has a friend there named Logan who is 16 and from Henryetta.
I know this is off what we are discussing at the moment, yet a reply to a posting earlier today.

 

[FlowerChild]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2080

According to Rosser this is an illustration of where the bodies were found

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2198

aerial view with crime scene and other landmarks

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2698

full length view with Patterson Home marked (I have a high rez version if anyone needs/wants it PM me and I will send it)

I did all of these based on information from OSBI and Research
My Opinion

 

[frogjustfrog]

I don't connect a Ruth, do you mean a family member? He has a sisters Carol, Betty and two brother Bobby and Eddie

Hi lifesaver. Sorry to confuse you. I couldnt get back on. Server Busy.

The Ruth part has to do with something from another poster. You would need to go to Claycat's thread to read it. I'm not much help, but Ruth was a name another psychic mentioned. I didnt mean to add that to my post. sorry

Oh... and the fence. I didnt mean you could see the fence from Mapquest. I was just going to try to help people with location and such, from earlier postings where they were talking about railroads and hobos and stuff.
I'm tired, stressed.... sugar has been running too high or too low, back and forth. I didnt mean to confuse you.
But glad you are here. Hubby doesnt remember a barbedwire fence behind the memorial but you said once in describing how the girls laid, that there eas one. He just remembered the path that went back into the woods where Skyla laid. I wondered if you had noticed that, or if there was a fence there. He didnt think there was.

 

[frogjustfrog]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2080

According to Rosser this is an illustration of where the bodies were found

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2198

aerial view with crime scene and other landmarks

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2698

full length view with Patterson Home marked (I have a high rez version if anyone needs/wants it PM me and I will send it)

I did all of these based on information from OSBI and Research
My Opinion

bolded above by me. I would love if you could send me that version. Thank you in advance

 

[LifeSaver]

Goodness it is late and I have a busy day tomorrow. Take care all you Sleuthers, and God Bless

 

[LifeSaver]

Pattersons house is behind the first one, right? I can barely see it. Newmans livein the first house.

 

[FlowerChild]

Here's something I can't find, even in the latest "catch-up" post:

Where specifically were the girls going and why? I get that they were walking to the bridge, but is there more about that somewhere?

thanx

Peter Placker said Taylor had been walking down to the bridge for several months to exercise - he did not say so, but I betcha there were a few boys hanging around down there sometimes too, Taylor was 13, old enough to be a little interested in the boys. The bridge was a bit of a "kids" hangout - not much else to do out in the country for kids under 16.

Peter Placker did say that it was just in the last few months that they allowed Taylor to walk down there alone - after she told them she was getting older and they should trust her --- the usual "give me some freedom" phase that 12 and 13 year olds go thru. Taylor had turned 13 a few month ago - she was a year behind in school - kids her age are usually going into the 8th grade, not the 7th. Taylor would have turned 14 before she finished 7th grade and 16 before she finished 9th grade

My Opinion

 

[LifeSaver]

Its been soooooooooo many years since I've traveled up that road. You couldn't pay me enough money to drive up there

 

[frogjustfrog]

Its been soooooooooo many years since I've traveled up that road. You couldn't pay me enough money to drive up there

Lol I dont mean the road to Patterson's. You couldnt pay me enough either. I think it just goes to his house.
The road begins just past Plackers.... you can barely see it for the trees. Looks almost like a path.
His house is right behind Plackers if I am seeing this right.


Ok... I guess I wasnt right. I thought it was the little marking right almost due west behind Plackers. Just a little dot practically. That was the way I first understood it before FC showed this to us. I thought they said DIRECTLY behind Plackers. There IS a road, almost like a path, that goes to somethig there.
Wonder what it is?

 

[LifeSaver]

Good job FC....I guess that old white house isn't there anymore. Wouldn't you hate to have that monster in our back yard. Scarey !!

 

[LifeSaver]

I think its S/W of Plackers, and I'm getting scared just talking about him. He could sneak up behind us, and nevermind

 

[frogjustfrog]

I think its S/W of Plackers, and I'm getting scared just talking about him. He could sneak up behind us, and nevermind

I know! From what I have heard, it scares me too. And just to think that anyone could be in that dense thicket looking when people are down there! I have to go take a pic of the old restaurant for Char and I am scared to go now!!!!!

Know anyone big and ugly to go with me? lol