South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #4

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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 3m3 minutes ago

instructions?

MM: No.

VZ: Where were they going in Gugulethu?

MM: I don't know where. But I just told them not to get lost in Gugulethu.

VZ: Mr. Qwabe grew up in Khayelitsha, not so?

MM: I don't know but I know he's from Khayelitsha (the knife crime township)

VZ: Did you not ask him where the hijack was going to happen?

MM: I knew it would happen in Gugulethu.

VZ: Where in Gugulethu?

MM: I don't know where.

Traverso: You said earlier on that you wanted to know everything that was going on.


MM: Correct

Traverso: Didn't you want to know where?

MM: I wanted to know where. I knew it was in Gugulethu. I didn't think of asking exactly where.

Traverso: Did you not want to know how this lady would be killed?


MM: I knew she would be killed. I didn't ask exactly how.
 
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Ayesha ‏@CloraVannieKaap 2 mins2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Mbolombo says he knew the lady was going to be killed in Gugulethu on the Saturday night. Didn't know how.
 
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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 4m4 minutes ago

VZ: you told the court that Qwabe told you, and told you that Zola said they should meet at 19:30.

MM: Correct

VZ: And you then called Zola Tongo?

MM: Correct.

VZ: Approximately what time were these calls?

MM: I don't want to lie. I don't know what time. I would say it was at night.
 
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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 4m4 minutes ago

vz: Did you know the arrangement was that they should meet Tongo at 19:30?

MM: I only heard when I had the conversation with Abongile (Qwabe).

VZ: Did that surprise you?

MM: I wouldn't say that surprised me.

((VZ refers to poster-sized timeline of calls))

VZ: At 8pm, Qwabe calls Tongo for 5 secs, then Qwabe phones back for 31 seconds. What were these calls about? (How would Mondo know? )

MM: I don't know but I know nothing else was discussed, other than the job had to be done that night.

VZ: As far as I understand Tongo's evidence is that he was never at a table with the couple.

MM: I am still maintaining that the reason why we couldn't contact him was because he was sitting in the restaurant.
 
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Qwabe made a 5 sec call to Tongo. That's hardly enough time to say, 'Hello, it's me'. Then he called again. I wonder if it was just the phone's reception cut the first call off?
 
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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 4m4 minutes ago

vz: Did you know the arrangement was that they should meet Tongo at 19:30?

MM: I only heard when I had the conversation with Abongile (Qwabe).

VZ: Did that surprise you?

MM: I wouldn't say that surprised me.

((VZ refers to poster-sized timeline of calls))

VZ: At 8pm, Qwabe calls Tongo for 5 secs, then Qwabe phones back for 31 seconds. What were these calls about? (How would Mondo know? )

MM: I don't know but I know nothing else was discussed, other than the job had to be done that night.

VZ: As far as I understand Tongo's evidence is that he was never at a table with the couple.

MM: I am still maintaining that the reason why we couldn't contact him was because he was sitting in the restaurant.



bbm-Tongo indicated that he purchased air time and went to fuel vehicle IIRC as per his testimony
 
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Ayesha ‏@CloraVannieKaap 5 mins5 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Adv Van Zyl questioning Mbolombo about the details leading to the hijacking and murder on the Saturday night.
 
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Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 1m1 minute ago

VZ: did you ask Tongo why he wasn't at the place at 19:30?

MM: I never asked him. I just told him that Qwabe said he had to be at the place. And he repeated what he said.

Traverso: What did he say?

MM: That he was sitting with the couple (???)

MM: Abongile (Qwabe) is saying they had to meet at a time mentioned. that's the 1st time I'm hearing of it. I didn't know they were supposed to meet before

VZ: You told the court that they said they had to meet at 19:30, Qwabe said it's late now. you tried to get hold of Tongo, but couldn't. Later Tongo called you back and said he couldn't take the call because he was sitting with the couple. That was your evidence, now I don't understand you saying that you heard it for the 1st time in this court.

MM: I misunderstood. I didn't listen well.

Traverso: So what is it?

MM: Zola said the reason he couldn't take Abongile's call was that he was sitting with the couple in a restaurant .
 
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bbm-Tongo indicated that he purchased air time and went to fuel vehicle IIRC as per his testimony

Yes, that's right.
 
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bbm-Tongo indicated that he purchased air time and went to fuel vehicle IIRC as per his testimony

Could it be possible that Tongo actually used the opportunity as a chance to impress his friends - to make them think he was sitting in a swanky restaurant, rather than having to wait outside? It seems a little sick but I wouldn't put it past him. He seemed very concerned about his 'image'.
 
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I actually find all the times confusing. It was a muddle that night, it's a bigger muddle 4 years later.
 
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vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 7 mins7 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial MM: I wasnt aware they had to meet before the time. Judge: I don't understand? MM: Mr Van Zyl says they had to meet. #SABCNews
 
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Could it be possible that Tongo actually used the opportunity as a chance to impress his friends - to make them think he was sitting in a swanky restaurant, rather than having to wait outside? It seems a little sick but I wouldn't put it past him. He seemed very concerned about his 'image'.

I'm sitting at a restaurant - with the couple inside (could have been misread)....jmho

What you are indicating could also be the case too.
 
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Ayesha ‏@CloraVannieKaap 1 min1 minute ago

#DewaniTrial Mbolombo says he was not aware that the hijacking was supposed to take place at 7:30pm on the Saturday night.
 
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MM says Tongo couldn't answer call because he was in restaurant with couple.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-18-20141110-3


personally I think the word would have been ''at'' the restaurant as opposed to ''in'' mooo

perhaps MR SD will be able to clear that up with his testimony:facepalm:

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MM: Tongo testified he was late, phoned Qwabe to find out what's going on.
MM: Told me they were to meet 19:30, Tongo not there.

that's a sharp contrast from what we heard from Tongo --- gun guys couldn't meet up due to ''wet'' area = police presence IIIRC
 
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Could it be possible that Tongo actually used the opportunity as a chance to impress his friends - to make them think he was sitting in a swanky restaurant, rather than having to wait outside? It seems a little sick but I wouldn't put it past him. He seemed very concerned about his 'image'.

I think you're onto something there Z. Tongo and SD were rather pally before, during and after the 'incident', Tongo probably wanted to impress his mates he was in with the couple.
I wonder if Tongo has changed tact after finding out SD is gay. He was in big denial during his time on the stand that they never 'held hands' which I think means, shake hands. Just good ol' homophobia? JMO
 
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I'm sort of hoping that Tongo didn't answer that call that's being discussed because he was having second thoughts. But I don't suppose that can be true as otherwise he'd have told the court that, as it might make him look better. Poor Anni.
 
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