VZ: there is a rumour that Mr. Tongo decided to change his story. And that you, his attorney and legal officer went to see him to find out.
(ok that's not right, the defence is bringing up rumours, the state and/or the judge should object,very strange court habits in SA jmo, )
PH: That is incorrect, but let me help you out. Mr. Tongo got upset with his attorney, saying he hadn't seen him in a long time. He didn't want to see me or Miss Riley, said that's it, he's not testifying.
VZ: When was that?
PH: It's in the records, have a look.
VZ: That was shortly before the Mngeni trial.
PH: No, some time before
Traverso: He never indicated he is changing his story?
PH: No, the prison head was also present. he said I'm not talking to you and I'm not talking to you and I'm not testifying.
VZ: did you get word that he was appealing his conviction & sentence?
PH:No