Special Counsel Issues 1st Indictments

[simba16]

Thanks!

 

[bwt42]

I don't know what it means, but we should stick to trusted, known MSM sources and not political blogs or talk shows.

This information we need to follow along needs to be accurate and based in facts.

I agree. Yesterday posters were watching msnbc & posting political opinions as gospel. For awhile I thought Rachel was on websleuths.

 

[bluesneakers]

I agree. Yesterday posters were watching msnbc & posting political opinions as gospel. For awhile I thought Rachel was on websleuths.

Rachel Maddow is MSM, but yes, sometimes it's like she's here thanks to our CARIIS.

 

[bwt42]

Rachel Maddow is MSM, but yes, sometimes it's like she's here thanks to our CARIIS.

I truly am confused. Can you quote a political opinion as fact because it was said on msm ?

 

[bluesneakers]

I truly am confused. Can you quote a political opinion as fact because it was said on msm ?

We can use quotes that have been used in MSM, can't we?

 

[bwt42]

Also, I find it ironic that yesterday many names other than those indicted were brought up without a peep, but when a Democrat is brought up there's an outcry.

 

[bluesneakers]

McCain*: 'More shoes will drop' in Mueller investigation

"I told you months ago that this was a centipede and shoes would drop and I guarantee you more shoes will drop," the Armed Services Committee chairman told reporters on Tuesday.

McCain, like many GOP senators, said he didn't think Trump would force the former FBI director out of his special counsel position.

Asked how the caucus would react if that happened, McCain said: "Everybody that I know does not think that's a good idea."

*Senator John McCain, Republican - Arizona

 

[bwt42]

We can use quotes that have been used in MSM, can't we?

I think to be intellectually honest you should say its a talking head opinion. But that's just the way I would conduct myself. I can't force posters to accept my ground rules.

 

[bluesneakers]

Unanswered questions in Robert Mueller's Russia investigation

*Who might be next?

*What’s next for Manafort and Gates?

*Who are the unnamed people in Papadopoulos' guiltily plea?

ABC News identified Manafort, Corey Lewandowski and Sam Clovis Tuesday as three of the campaign officials who were contacted by Papadopoulos.

And as Mueller’s team told the judge during Papadopoulos’ plea hearing: "There’s a large-scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part."

In other words, by Mueller team’s own admission, there is still a lot more to come.

*How did Manafort spend his money?

The indictment against Manafort and Gates offers insight into their alleged financial dealings and expenditures. Prosecutors allege that Manafort used hidden overseas wealth to enjoy a "lavish lifestyle" without paying taxes on that income.

He is also accused of spending $849,215 at a men's clothing store, $655,500 on a landscaper, and $934,350 at an Antique Rug dealer in Virginia, among other expenditures.

The Weekly Standard called around the the Alexandria rug dealers, near Manafort's home, and talked to a rug expert that said in order to by a million dollars of rugs in Alexandria, "you'd have to buy an entire shop."

 

[FinallyRegistered]

Former Trump campaign adviser denies encouraging aide on Russia dealings

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...uraging-aide-on-russia-dealings-idUSKBN1D02MT

 

[bwt42]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0d4f04b89eb_story.html?utm_term=.9e97d272ed91

For 'low level volunteer,' Papadopoulos sought high profile as Trump adviser. This guy did a real con job to worm his way into the campaign.

 

[bluesneakers]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0d4f04b89eb_story.html?utm_term=.9e97d272ed91

For 'low level volunteer,' Papadopoulos sought high profile as Trump adviser. This guy did a real con job to worm his way into the campaign.

From the link:

But interviews and documents show that Papadopoulos was in regular contact with the Trump campaign’s most senior officials and held himself out as a Trump surrogate as he traveled the world to meet with foreign officials and reporters.

On March 21, Trump included Papadopoulos among five men he announced were advising him on matters of national security in a meeting with The Washington Post editorial board. “An energy and oil consultant. Excellent guy,” Trump said.

And yet Sanders made statements dismissing him as a random volunteer.

If Trump or his team had undertaken even a cursory vetting of Papadopoulos, they would have found that much of his already-slim résumé was either exaggerated or false.

:facepalm:

It is not clear how much the campaign knew about Papadopoulos’s activities. But he continued through these months to have contact with other Trump officials.

 

[LaneGirl]

Also, I find it ironic that yesterday many names other than those indicted were brought up without a peep, but when a Democrat is brought up there's an outcry.

Here I will help you out...

Podesta et al that maybe in collusion with any foreign entity that is trying to sow discord, laundry money, treason, voter fraud etc should and will be brought down my Mueller. He is pretty clean on both R & D sides according to many who know him on both parties.

As Americans we should all want the truth regardless of what side we may be on. I know I want the truth where ever it may fall.

Turning a blind eye on this stuff is turning a blind eye on YOUR/OUR/USA best interest whichever political side one is on.

Bring on the truth and vet sources so that one is getting all the facts and not just rubbish bias stuff.

 

[bwt42]

Papadopoulos. Here is what I can't get a handle on. He is going around the world, apparently without direction, portraying himself as an influential campaign representative. He sends emails to superiors that might come as a surprise to them because they really don't know who sent him on these missions. Probably no one but himself. He's important only in his own mind. JMO. Pure speculation. There's cons out there that have practiced medicine so him posing as a campaign bigwig is not a stretch.

 

[LaneGirl]

Papadopoulos. Here is what I can't get a handle on. He is going around the world, apparently without direction, portraying himself as an influential campaign representative. He sends emails to superiors that might come as a surprise to them because they really don't know who sent him on these missions. Probably no one but himself. He's important only in his own mind. JMO. Pure speculation. There's cons out there that have practiced medicine so him posing as a campaign bigwig is not a stretch.

So a respectful question...

He was sending emails to meet with a foreign entity to get dirt and oddly enough Kushner, Manafort, DTJ met with someone of the same foreign entity to get dirt by their own admission.

Do you think that is a coincidence?

At any rate he lied to FBI so that tells you what he is about regardless if he did it of his own accord or with help. He lied you couldn't make him look worse if you tried.

 

[bluesneakers]

For ‘low level volunteer,’ Papadopoulos sought high profile as Trump adviser

In this photo from President Donald Trump's Twitter account, George Papadopoulos, third from left, sits at a table with then-candidate Trump and others at what is labeled at a national security meeting in Washington that was posted on March 31, 2016. Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign aide belittled by the White House as a low-level volunteer was thrust on Oct. 30, 2017, to the center of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, providing evidence in the first criminal case that connects Trump’s team and intermediaries for Russia seeking to interfere in the campaign.

 

[FinallyRegistered]

[video=twitter;925539618258391040]https://twitter.com/NPR/status/925539618258391040[/video]

 

[FinallyRegistered]

Manafort and Gates Pose ‘Serious Risk of Flight,’ Says Mueller

In a February 2016 application for a line of credit, Gates listed his and his wife's net worth as $30 million, the filing said, and his liquid net worth as $25 million. A month later he listed his total assets at less than $3 million.

Manafort has traveled extensively abroad, the document said.

"The government has also learned that in March of this year, Manafort registered a phone and an email account using an alias. Manafort traveled with this telephone to Mexico [in] June 2017; to China on May 23, 2017; and to Ecuador on May 9, 2017."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/manafort-gates-pose-serious-risk-flight-says-mueller-n816246

 

[bwt42]

So a respectful question...

He was sending emails to meet with a foreign entity to get dirt and oddly enough Kushner, Manafort, DTJ met with someone of the same foreign entity to get dirt by their own admission.

Do you think that is a coincidence?

At any rate he lied to FBI so that tells you what he is about regardless if he did it of his own accord or with help. He lied you couldn't make him look worse if you tried.

could be a coincidence. He was a pretty good liar before he lied to the FBI. In that regard he has been pretty consistent.

 

[LaneGirl]

could be a coincidence. He was a pretty good liar before he lied to the FBI. In that regard he has been pretty consistent.

I agree he has lied and to the FBI of all agencies to lie to. He tried to undermine the USA not good!

And I respect your opinion that it could be a coincidence and I will acknowledge that is possible, however:

According to the indictment his emails show approx mid March he started emailing trying to get a meeting...

April 26, 2016 he was informed by foreign agency that they had "dirt" on HRC.
May 21, 2016 he emailed Manafort about meeting to get said "dirt".
June 9, 2016 Kushner, DTJ and Manafort meet with foreign agency to get "dirt" by DTJ own admission.

I don't think it was a coincidence looking at the timing of the emails and the eventual meeting DTJ admitted to, but reality is that Mueller has access to Pop's email and who all was on the email chains.

Meeting 3ish weeks after emailing Manafort about setting up a meeting is pretty suspicious to me and apparently the FBI.

ETA: 3ish weeks from POP's email to Manafort and the actual meeting Manafort and DTJ had with foreign agency to get "dirt". If a coincidence, and I will concede there are some strange coincidences, it's one for the books that an email that the FBI have in their possession to Manafort about a meeting ended up actually happening.