Special Counsel Issues 1st Indictments

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  • #721
Who elected Don Jr to a political position? Don't you have to run for a political post to be a politician?
 
  • #722
The links you have provided do not support any of your findings. I'll wait for Mueller's report.

Oh really?

Why was that female Russian lawyer, who worked for Fusion GPS, asking for a meeting with Trump Jr, and then immediately going to see her handler at Fusion after the meeting?

You don't see any issues with that? It's just a coincidence that she reached out to Trump jr, and on the basis of that meeting, they added it to the dirt dossier? Smells like a total set up to me. And it smells that way to millions of people. The DNC and Hilary are known for playing dirty tricks.

It amazes me the way many Dems are trying to ignore the obvious connection between the DNC and the meeting set up by Fusion GPS. That Russian attorney worked for Fusion GPS when she reached out to Don JR for that meeting. How can that be ignored or dismissed?
 
  • #723
Who elected Don Jr to a political position? Don't you have to run for a political post to be a politician?

You don't have to run for any office to be hired as a consultant or an aide. Obama brought in dozens and dozens, like Val Jarrett, who were never elected.
 
  • #724
Rachel lost me several months ago when she the big Trump tax reveal- that was laughable and for me, shattered her credability

She has been screaming that there are dozens and dozens of sealed indictments, and arrests are imminent, dozens of the Trump administration are about to fall---for months already. It's like the boy who cried wolf, imo.
 
  • #725
You don't have to run for any office to be hired as a consultant or an aide. Obama brought in dozens and dozens, like Val Jarrett, who were never elected.

No nepotism rules? I thought that was a biggie in govt
 
  • #726
Oh really?

Why was that female Russian lawyer, who worked for Fusion GPS, asking for a meeting with Trump Jr, and then immediately going to see her handler at Fusion after the meeting?

You don't see any issues with that? It's just a coincidence that she reached out to Trump jr, and on the basis of that meeting, they added it to the dirt dossier? Smells like a total set up to me. And it smells that way to millions of people. The DNC and Hilary are known for playing dirty tricks.

It amazes me the way many Dems are trying to ignore the obvious connection between the DNC and the meeting set up by Fusion GPS. That Russian attorney worked for Fusion GPS when she reached out to Don JR for that meeting. How can that be ignored or dismissed?

Can’t cheat an honest man. If it was a set up, he was happy to take the bait.
 
  • #727
  • #728
You don't have to run for any office to be hired as a consultant or an aide. Obama brought in dozens and dozens, like Val Jarrett, who were never elected.


With decidedly more qualifications than the President's son.
 
  • #729
Can’t cheat an honest man. If it was a set up, he was happy to take the bait.

But he didn't take the bait. He attended the meeting and had no further contact and did not agree to requesting any further info from them.

They tried to lure him in and it didn't work.

But that is pretty hypocritical to criticize Don Jr from wanting to hear about opposition research, when Hilary hired a global firm, who worked closely with the Russians, to collect and create opposition research. And it was those same operatives that set up this meeting with Don Jr.

So it is pretty funny to say how 'wrong it is for don Jr to take that meeting' while ignoring that the person who reached out to him, was employed by Hilary and Fusion GPS.
 
  • #730
With decidedly more qualifications than the President's son.

So?

Trump ran his businesses with the help of his family. He trusts them and knows their capabilities. He said during the election that his family would work with him.
 
  • #731
Mueller is highly respected former director of the FBI. Trump is an confirmed con, criminal--fines paid for fraud in Trump University, record fines paid in casino money laundering. Trump just pardoned the wrong turkeys because the Flynns have flipped.

BBM. And a confirmed SEXUAL PREDATOR and traitor. Don't forget that. The Flynns are just the latest rats trying to flee the ship. Speculation is that daddy Flynn is going to try to protect his son.
 
  • #732
So?

Trump ran his businesses with the help of his family. He trusts them and knows their capabilities. He said during the election that his family would work with him.

Which businesses? The several that went bankrupt or were losers?
 
  • #733
But he didn't take the bait. He attended the meeting and had no further contact and did not agree to requesting any further info from them.

They tried to lure him in and it didn't work.

But that is pretty hypocritical to criticize Don Jr from wanting to hear about opposition research, when Hilary hired a global firm, who worked closely with the Russians, to collect and create opposition research. And it was those same operatives that set up this meeting with Don Jr.

So it is pretty funny to say how 'wrong it is for don Jr to take that meeting' while ignoring that the person who reached out to him, was employed by Hilary and Fusion GPS.

But ... Hillary!
 
  • #734
But ... Hillary!

Right, exactly. But Hilary---because her filthy paws are all over this mess. She bought and paid for this dossier. And she was paying Fusion GPS while they set up this Trump Tower meeting.

so YES, But Hilary...
 
  • #735
Which businesses? The several that went bankrupt or were losers?

Are you denying he accrued billions as a businessman?
 
  • #736
It is interesting that in the past few days Trump's tweets have become even more unhinged than usual, and he's displaying delusional behavior such as denying he ever made the "grab 'em by the pussy" comments, that TIME contacted him about person of the year etc. I wonder if as Mueller gets closer and closer to revealing his crimes if he's progressing from dissembling into dementia? I wonder if that happens if Congress will finally take the necessary steps to remove him?

Psychologist John Gartner: Why the Mueller probe makes Trump dangerous

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/18/ps...-why-the-mueller-probe-makes-trump-dangerous/

""Now add one more factor, that under the surface, this Mueller investigation is turning him and his family into cornered animals," Gartner continued. "They are guilty of treason, guilty of money laundering, guilty of collusion, guilty of obstruction of justice. They are guilty as sin and they know it. The noose is tightening around their necks and unlike Richard Nixon Trump and his cabal are not going to leave gracefully. Donald Trump is going to be really like Bonnie and Clyde; he’s going to shoot his way out."

I do find some of this hyperbolic. But it's astonishing how quickly he and the Russians have been able to destabilize this country. I would never have believed it. And seeing as how Trump isn't a mental giant, he's had a tremendous amount of help to do it. That that many people colluded to make all this happen is what is most frightening to me. Who are all of these people, and what happened to make them so reprehensible????
 
  • #737
Which businesses? The several that went bankrupt or were losers?

Can you imagine the shell game his accounts have had to play over all these years??? You couldn't pay me enough! LOL!
 
  • #738
It is interesting that in the past few days Trump's tweets have become even more unhinged than usual, and he's displaying delusional behavior such as denying he ever made the "grab 'em by the pussy" comments, that TIME contacted him about person of the year etc. I wonder if as Mueller gets closer and closer to revealing his crimes if he's progressing from dissembling into dementia? I wonder if that happens if Congress will finally take the necessary steps to remove him?

Psychologist John Gartner: Why the Mueller probe makes Trump dangerous

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/18/ps...-why-the-mueller-probe-makes-trump-dangerous/

""Now add one more factor, that under the surface, this Mueller investigation is turning him and his family into cornered animals," Gartner continued. "They are guilty of treason, guilty of money laundering, guilty of collusion, guilty of obstruction of justice. They are guilty as sin and they know it. The noose is tightening around their necks and unlike Richard Nixon Trump and his cabal are not going to leave gracefully. Donald Trump is going to be really like Bonnie and Clyde; he’s going to shoot his way out."

I do find some of this hyperbolic. But it's astonishing how quickly he and the Russians have been able to destabilize this country. I would never have believed it. And seeing as how Trump isn't a mental giant, he's had a tremendous amount of help to do it. That that many people colluded to make all this happen is what is most frightening to me. Who are all of these people, and what happened to make them so reprehensible????

Are you asking who were the people who colluded with the Russians? Do you mean Debbie Wasserman schultz, Hilary and Bill, and company?



THE CLINTONS November 14th
Fusion GPS's ties to Clinton campaign, Russia investigation: What to know

Fusion GPS, the firm behind the controversial dossier of allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia, was – at least in part – hired by a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

The revelation has sparked a frenzy among Republicans who have called for more information on just how involved former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was in the production of the unverified dossier.

Here’s what to know about the firm and its connection to the Russia investigations.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC paid Perkins Coie more than $9 million – although it’s uncertain how much of that money, if any, went toward the dossier.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC funded the project until October 2016 – right before the election.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-law-with-dossier-funding-complaint-says.html


Ned Ryun: Stronger Evidence Of Russian Collusion Between Fusion GPS, DNC, And Clinton Than Trump


"This Russian lawyer we will discover that she was actually one of the unnamed sources for the Russian dossier," Ryun said Wednesday on FOX Business. "The thing that is amazing to me in all of this is we have seen harder and stronger evidence over the last two weeks for Russian collusion between Fusion GPS, the DNC and Hillary Clinton with Russia than we have any evidence for the Trump campaign and Russia for the last year."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...en_fusion_gps_dnc_and_clinton_than_trump.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/24/dnc-clinton-campaign-paid-fusion-gps-Trump-dossier/
 
  • #739
It is interesting that in the past few days Trump's tweets have become even more unhinged than usual, and he's displaying delusional behavior such as denying he ever made the "grab 'em by the pussy" comments, that TIME contacted him about person of the year etc. I wonder if as Mueller gets closer and closer to revealing his crimes if he's progressing from dissembling into dementia? I wonder if that happens if Congress will finally take the necessary steps to remove him?

Psychologist John Gartner: Why the Mueller probe makes Trump dangerous

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/18/ps...-why-the-mueller-probe-makes-trump-dangerous/

""Now add one more factor, that under the surface, this Mueller investigation is turning him and his family into cornered animals," Gartner continued. "They are guilty of treason, guilty of money laundering, guilty of collusion, guilty of obstruction of justice. They are guilty as sin and they know it. The noose is tightening around their necks and unlike Richard Nixon Trump and his cabal are not going to leave gracefully. Donald Trump is going to be really like Bonnie and Clyde; he’s going to shoot his way out."

I do find some of this hyperbolic. But it's astonishing how quickly he and the Russians have been able to destabilize this country. I would never have believed it. And seeing as how Trump isn't a mental giant, he's had a tremendous amount of help to do it. That that many people colluded to make all this happen is what is most frightening to me. Who are all of these people, and what happened to make them so reprehensible????

I thought this topic was about Russian collusion in the election, and one of the posters above objected to conspiracy theories. It seems some posters have moved Politivent to this forum, and are ok with conspiracy theories if the target is their preferred target (President Trump), as evidenced by this post. Double standard much?
 
  • #740
I thought this topic was about Russian collusion in the election, and one of the posters above objected to conspiracy theories. It seems some posters have moved Politivent to this forum, and are ok with conspiracy theories if the target is their preferred target (President Trump), as evidenced by this post. Double standard much?

I think you've replied to the wrong comment. The comment to which you've replied concerns the Mueller investigation.
 
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