Special needs child "voted" out of classroom

What gets me is that for the school to have started the testing process, problems were already identified. That whole process often takes weeks, if not months, to initiate and complete.
Yep. Six-eight weeks for certain places in our area. Plus no one talks about alternative places to test, etc. You get to do all that research yourself.

That teacher and others in that school or district, as well as his parents, knew there was a situation with that little boy that was serious enough for them to "test".
The teacher knew. She had to know.

There should have been something in place to deal with his behavioral issues. I'm sure voting him out of the classroom wasn't one of the options.
There was a behavior modification plan and an informal IEP. She chose to ignore both.
 
No you aren't! It was dumb. lol

I'd say quick witted, actually! :blowkiss:

anyhow, i still say although this online petition, while giving Wendy Portillo a clear show she is now persona non grata, is useless as far as getting the powers that be to do something about her.

i wonder how her evening was? and will she have a nice day? :waitasec:
 
Xcom ... one of my good friends has an autistic son. i can relate to every ounce of every word you said.
 
I think this child tribunal thing is a very bad idea. It could cause children to start taking sides against another child and isn't fair to those who are having medical problems and can't help some of their actions. I'll never believe that children act up horribly on purpose or because they're just mean. Children at that age take things literally. The poor child probably thought that he would have to sit at the office everyday at school or that his mom or daycare wouldn't be able to find him after school.

Me too! Frankly I don't know many adults who I feel to be mature and wise enough to pass judgment on their peers...asking first graders to do the same thing is just flat out ridiculous!
 
My computers acting crazy today so I can't get to the petition page to see exactly what its for, but just so everyone knows the teacher is NOT currently in the classroom and hasn't been for at least a few days I guess, she's been 'reassigned' to the district office until the investigation is complete:) Once they're done w/the investigation then the school board or something votes on what to do with her.

Hopefully she will never return to the classroom. This is a really sick sick way to treat 5 year olds.
 
My computers acting crazy today so I can't get to the petition page to see exactly what its for, but just so everyone knows the teacher is NOT currently in the classroom and hasn't been for at least a few days I guess, she's been 'reassigned' to the district office until the investigation is complete:) Once they're done w/the investigation then the school board or something votes on what to do with her.

Hopefully she will never return to the classroom. This is a really sick sick way to treat 5 year olds.

Reassigned, she ought to be fired to send out a message loud and clear that her actions were inappropriate and unacceptable and will not be tolerated by her or any teacher in the future.
 
Some of you who are not teachers don't know how terrible it is for the REGULAR, well behaved kids in the classroom and just how disruptive one kid with BIG BIG behavior problems can disrupt learning in the classroom.

You don't get the other side of the story. WHen a child disrupts to the point that the other children are paying attention to what the disruptive kid is doing and not what the teacher is trying to teach.....no learning for the entire class is going on.

I agree that this teacher went to extremes. But just think of the other side of the story and how she was trying to make the behavior kid understand that the OTHER kids in the room wanted to LEARN and did not want to hear his constant rowdiness and problem behavior!!
i totally get how the teacher can become stressed over a child with issues like this. i just can not think of any reason on God's green earth that would justify a teacher behaving this way. what could you possibly hear from "the other side" that would make it ok to do this to any child? you agree the teacher went to extremes then add a "but". the problem is that the teacher went to a extreme. had this teacher found this child so disruptive that she went to the principal and asked the child be removed it would not be a issue of abuse. had this teacher filed a complaint with the school board over the issue of being forced to keep a disruptive child in her class it would not be abuse. had the teacher sent the child to the office because she could not teach with him in the class it would not be abuse.

i understand the frustration of the teacher. i understand the frustration of a parent that abuses a child. understanding frustration in no way excuses abuse.
 
I didn't find one comment here that said this little boy had the right to disrupt the classroom. I think most of us here realize what it is like to have that happen. The main topic here is how this "teacher" handled the situation.

What gets me is that for the school to have started the testing process, problems were already identified. That whole process often takes weeks, if not months, to initiate and complete.

That teacher and others in that school or district, as well as his parents, knew there was a situation with that little boy that was serious enough for them to "test".

There should have been something in place to deal with his behavioral issues. I'm sure voting him out of the classroom wasn't one of the options.

Even if he was a disruption in the classroom, there is a correct way to handle that... NOT having the other children "vote" him out of the classroom.

Not only does it effect this little boy, but it teaches the other children to be judgemental and vindictive... What a "teacher of the year" that school has!
 
Some of you who are not teachers don't know how terrible it is for the REGULAR, well behaved kids in the classroom and just how disruptive one kid with BIG BIG behavior problems can disrupt learning in the classroom.

You don't get the other side of the story. WHen a child disrupts to the point that the other children are paying attention to what the disruptive kid is doing and not what the teacher is trying to teach.....no learning for the entire class is going on.

I agree that this teacher went to extremes. But just think of the other side of the story and how she was trying to make the behavior kid understand that the OTHER kids in the room wanted to LEARN and did not want to hear his constant rowdiness and problem behavior!!

I remember a kid getting spanked daily in my first grade class. Every morning, I would wish/hope/pray that Tony wouldn't get in trouble. I never realized what he did, just that the teacher was upset and how she handled it. His behavior (obviously) didn't distract or disrupt me as much as the teacher's reaction. It's her behavior that affected me. To this day, it bothers me greatly. Side note: I later went to high school with him and I'm convinced it was autism. Although, even in first grade, I knew something wasn't right and didn't think he was a bad kid. So, speaking as a "regular" kid, the teacher is who upset me.:(
 
I remember a kid getting spanked daily in my first grade class. Every morning, I would wish/hope/pray that Tony wouldn't get in trouble. I never realized what he did, just that the teacher was upset and how she handled it. His behavior (obviously) didn't distract or disrupt me as much as the teacher's reaction. It's her behavior that affected me. To this day, it bothers me greatly. Side note: I later went to high school with him and I'm convinced it was autism. Although, even in first grade, I knew something wasn't right and didn't think he was a bad kid. So, speaking as a "regular" kid, the teacher is who upset me.:(

Poor Tony and poor you. the influence of mean, vindictive teachers has an appalling affect! :furious:
 
As someone who understands a lot of the frustrations that lead to the crazy sad things we read about here, I just wanted to say AMEN to this point.

It may explain the cause, but it sure doesn't excuse it.
 
The little boy's mother was on this CNN this morning. She said the teacher had each student tell why they didn't like her son before the vote off. His mother said he put it as each one told why they "hate" him. The interviewer compared it to a reality show where you are voted off the island.

This makes me so angry! I am just livid that this poor child was put through this. His mother thinks other children may have gone through this as well.


That was exactly my thought when I read about it!:furious::furious::furious: Popularity contest at this poor child's emotional expense, not a civic lesson in voting!:mad:
 
Some of you who are not teachers don't know how terrible it is for the REGULAR, well behaved kids in the classroom and just how disruptive one kid with BIG BIG behavior problems can disrupt learning in the classroom.

You don't get the other side of the story. WHen a child disrupts to the point that the other children are paying attention to what the disruptive kid is doing and not what the teacher is trying to teach.....no learning for the entire class is going on.

I agree that this teacher went to extremes. But just think of the other side of the story and how she was trying to make the behavior kid understand that the OTHER kids in the room wanted to LEARN and did not want to hear his constant rowdiness and problem behavior!!

Yes, I do! :razz:We have one such little girl in my daughter's first grade class, when she doesn't get her way (and I've been there and seen it) she will yell so loud and long she turns bright red in the face. First they try to ignore her, then she is sent to the principal's/nurse's office. There is no need for class humiliation!
 
my son does not pick up on emotional expressions. when he is getting on your nerves he will not realize it. he can feel anger and frustration but he can not recognize the signs in others that they are feeling that way. when the class is loud all day and the teacher has had enough the kids will pick up on it and not push their luck. my son can not tell that the teacher is in a bad mood.

my son can not make friends easily. he gets on the last nerve of the other children. he has the same problem recognizing their emotional state as he has with adults. because he can not tell what they are feeling he can make a little disagreement worse. the teacher is forced to constantly step in and fix every disagreement my son is involved in. normally children learn to fix some of their own problems and avoid repeating the offensive action in the future. my son learns every subject at school well except social interaction.

my son has OCD type behavior. he will have outburst over silly things like getting the wrong pencil. when you have 20 to 30 children to deal with and 1 child interrupts class daily if they do not get their way with something simple like the correct place in line or subjects being out of order it will stress a teacher.

i understand how a child with this condition can stress a teacher. stress is not a excuse for this type of behavior. the child can not control the OCD or social issue without therapy. the teacher can control her behavior. if a child had epilepsy it would disrupt the class. daily seizures would cause a teacher to stress but we would not accept the teacher punishing the child for this.

My friend's son exhibits many of the very same behaviors. He wouldn't get when the other kids were bugged by his behavior...
 
No. I completely understand the other childrens' needs.

However, no behavior justifies what that teacher did.

There are mechanisms in place, procedures, rules, etc. to handle situations with consistently disruptive children.

There was an informal IEP in place. She ignored it.

There was a behavioral modification plan in place. She ignored it.



Autistic people can not help stimming. They can not stop doing it.

The only way to stop an autistic person from stimming behavior is to distract them, ie using behavior modification. Even that is sometimes not effective.

Humiliating them and castigating them in front of their peers, then manipulating their peers into condemning them is not going to change their behavior. It's going to ruin their self-esteem.

The teacher could have taught the children to help with Alex allowing them to learn about helping others. In other words, "if Alex starts hiding under the table then do this..."


Trust me, it works. I have three kids, one autistic and two typical. The other two kids learned how to read their brother at an early age. They are very capable of redirecting his behavior away from stimming.

The children could have learned valuable lessons about helping others, dealing with disabilities and compassion.

They learned how to gang up on someone and how to criticize.

Alex Barton could have learned to modify his behaviors, modeling his peers.

He learned that he was "annoying" and "disgusting".



And one last thing.

Given the choice, most parents would have their autistic kids placed in specialized schools and/or classrooms where the classes and staff are geared towards their needs.

The school districts are the ones that insist on mainstreaming.
The school districts are the ones that cut costs.
The school districts are the ones hire these a$$hole teachers.

Do you have any concept of what these school administrations are like?

They'll sit in an IEP meeting and agree to everything, then cut corners when your back is turned. They'll blatantly ignore the IEP, then lie to you about how they are in compliance.

The only watchdog on your child's education is you. Your only weapon as a watchdog is a lawyer and legal attacks.

Guess what? No money, no lawyer, no means to fight back. The school can do whatever they want and you're stuck. They'll walk into a meeting and call for a continuance, wasting your time, work-time and money. They play the drain-game, winning by attrition because they know your funds are limited.

They'll force you to put your kid into a public school and then try to do as little as possible for him.

Don't blame the parents for a situation they neither wanted nor created.

Excellent post, XCom Squaddie!:clap::clap::clap:
 
PORT ST. LUCIE — The story of 5-year-old Alex Barton and his Morningside Elementary kindergarten teacher has spread throughout the world. It's attracted the attention of national media, including talk show host Dr. Phil.
Alex had been sent to the office because of a class disruption last week, when he returned to class, his teacher, Wendy Portillo, made him stand in front of the room while his classmates told him what they didn’t like about him, according to Alex’s mother, Melissa Barton, and the Port St. Lucie Police Department. Portillo then had the students vote on whether to let Alex stay in class.
By a vote of 14 to 2, Alex was voted out.
Since news of the incident broke, Alex’s mother, Melissa Barton, has received hundreds of supportive e-mails from as far away as Jordan, Japan and Iran. She has appeared on local news stations and major broadcast and cable networks. Requests for interviews arrive almost daily from radio stations and television programs throughout the country.
On Wednesday, the "Dr. Phil" show called looking for Barton to appear as a future guest.
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/28/dr-phil-show-calls-mom-autistic-boy-voted-out-port/
 

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