State v Bradley Cooper 03/31/11

[BrownRice]

To me it means that perhaps he didn't get into the car in the driveway like he normally would. It looks like he may have had the car in the garage. I think this may be important!!

But she couldn't recall how many cars were in the driveway, so that (to me) negates anything else.

 

[Cheyenne130]

But she couldn't recall how many cars were in the driveway, so that (to me) negates anything else.

Not exactly negated. She walked her dog on a daily basis and this is the only time that she noticed the garage door open. Another coincidence on the day that his wife just happens to go missing.

 

[JiminWilton]

This is the way testimony should be elicited and given. Just sayin'

 

[BrownRice]

Not exactly negated. She walked her dog on a daily basis and this is the only time that she noticed the garage door open. Another coincidence on the day that his wife just happens to go missing.

But there's so many reasons the garage could have been open. When I lived in NC, I lived in a subdivision just like Lochmere. Nice homes, neighbor parties, garage doors closed (you'd actually get a ticket from the HOA if you left it open). But there are so many legitimate reasons to have a garage door open (it could have been open only a couple of minutes - coincidentally when she walked by). Exiting the house thru the garage, trying to find something in the garage and wanting some fresh air or addtl daylight to find it, cleaning it, etc. If the garage was open for hours, I'd find it unusual. But we're only hearing about a minute while she walked by.

I get the "linking of coincidences" in a circumstantial case, but I think this is a stretch. If she saw BC stuffing something in the trunk, that would be another story.

 

[NCEast]

That witness was good, impartial and straight to the point. The pros. and def. were good with their questions so that the testimony was straight foreward and sincere.

 

[Tipstaff]

Most interesting she didn't see Nancy running.

 

[Cheyenne130]

But there's so many reasons the garage could have been open. When I lived in NC, I lived in a subdivision just like Lochmere. Nice homes, neighbor parties, garage doors closed (you'd actually get a ticket from the HOA if you left it open). But there are so many legitimate reasons to have a garage door open (it could have been open only a couple of minutes - coincidentally when she walked by). Exiting the house thru the garage, trying to find something in the garage and wanting some fresh air or addtl daylight to find it, cleaning it, etc. If the garage was open for hours, I'd find it unusual. But we're only hearing about a minute while she walked by.

I get the "linking of coincidences" in a circumstantial case, but I think this is a stretch. If she saw BC stuffing something in the trunk, that would be another story.

That is true. By itself this means nothing. It is another detail given that on this day was different than any other day. She noticed the open garage door at that time of day because she had never noticed it before.

 

[carolinalady]

Most interesting she didn't see Nancy running.

Nancy wasn't supposed to have left until 7am. Witness arrived home at 6:45, then went into back yard to pull weeds.

 

[BrownRice]

Most interesting she didn't see Nancy running.

But (if we believe the phone records and BC's story) didn't she go running closer to 7:00? This neighbor didn't give the exact time she walked by. NC could have went shortly after that.

 

[NCEast]

Most interesting she didn't see Nancy running.

I am becoming bogged down with all of this testimony but I think that was the most important testimony she offered coming from a prossecution witness. She had a very graceful demeanor.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Most interesting she didn't see Nancy running.

Yes and no. Her walk time that she gave was 6:00-6:45. According to the timeline given, Nancy would not have left the house until after that time.

 

[LyndyLoo]

But there's so many reasons the garage could have been open. When I lived in NC, I lived in a subdivision just like Lochmere. Nice homes, neighbor parties, garage doors closed (you'd actually get a ticket from the HOA if you left it open). But there are so many legitimate reasons to have a garage door open (it could have been open only a couple of minutes - coincidentally when she walked by). Exiting the house thru the garage, trying to find something in the garage and wanting some fresh air or addtl daylight to find it, cleaning it, etc. If the garage was open for hours, I'd find it unusual. But we're only hearing about a minute while she walked by.

I get the "linking of coincidences" in a circumstantial case, but I think this is a stretch. If she saw BC stuffing something in the trunk, that would be another story.

Maybe they are establishing some sort of timeline by visual of the neighbours..from this witness, we heard she walked her dog from about 6AM thru to 645..and saw garage door open..did NOT see Nancy leave or saw her jogging....Dont think defense really needed to do much with her..and she didnt seem like an biased witness....Will wait and see who comes next...maybe a neighbour who saw more that morning??..Patience Grasshopper :rocker:

 

[carolinalady]

That is true. By itself this means nothing. It is another detail given that on this day was different than any other day. She noticed the open garage door at that time of day because she had never noticed it before.

She said she noticed the door open b/c it was a big black hole compared to what house normally looks like w/ garage door down.

 

[NCEast]

Yes and no. Her walk time that she gave was 6:00-6:45. According to the timeline given, Nancy would not have left the house until after that time.

Did they ask the witness if she was doing yard work in the front or back yard? I was trying to do something else during some of her testimony and missed what she said about the yard work.

 

[carolinalady]

Did they ask the witness if she was doing yard work in the front or back yard? I was trying to do something else during some of her testimony and missed what she said about the yard work.

Back yard, pulling weeds.

 

[BrownRice]

Did they ask the witness if she was doing yard work in the front or back yard? I was trying to do something else during some of her testimony and missed what she said about the yard work.

I thought (but don't know if it was just an assumption on my part) it was the backyard.

 

[RaleighNC]

I am finding this article - research very interesting.

There does seem to be a personality type that kills their spouse without prior history (recorded) of domestic violence. Passive-aggressive personalities and dependent personalities often kill at the period of estrangement / abandonment when they do not consider divorce to be an option and these killers have little remorse and seem to have a period of feigned normalcy after the murder.

there's lots more in there - but this paints a picture for me that it's not as uncommon as I've thought that murders usually happen after prior histories of violence and that it's an act of a crazy person - in fact - it can look quite the opposite quite a bit of the time.

like I said - interesting.............. if you read, pay close attention to the catathymic crisis....

Was a personality assessment part of the custody hearing? I'd love to know where BC scored on some of the areas called up for the catathymic crisis killers.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Did they ask the witness if she was doing yard work in the front or back yard? I was trying to do something else during some of her testimony and missed what she said about the yard work.

Back yard.

 

[gbay]

But there's so many reasons the garage could have been open. When I lived in NC, I lived in a subdivision just like Lochmere. Nice homes, neighbor parties, garage doors closed (you'd actually get a ticket from the HOA if you left it open). But there are so many legitimate reasons to have a garage door open (it could have been open only a couple of minutes - coincidentally when she walked by). Exiting the house thru the garage, trying to find something in the garage and wanting some fresh air or addtl daylight to find it, cleaning it, etc. If the garage was open for hours, I'd find it unusual. But we're only hearing about a minute while she walked by.

I get the "linking of coincidences" in a circumstantial case, but I think this is a stretch. If she saw BC stuffing something in the trunk, that would be another story.

Not a stretch in my mind. Well, we know the car was in the driveway (from people testifying) the night before. We now know that this women walked her dogs by this house everyday between 5:45 a.m and 8:00 a.m. and the garage was never open. If I was a jury member I would be taking note that the garage was open on this of all mornings. Maybe it is nothing but seems like a big coincidence.

 

[gracielee]

Not exactly negated. She walked her dog on a daily basis and this is the only time that she noticed the garage door open. Another coincidence on the day that his wife just happens to go missing.

Was she asked if she was wearing long sleeves or short sleeves when walking her dog? I did read another Canadian post last night comparing the weather here to the weather in Medicine Hat, saying that summers there can be/are very hot too, like here, so Brad wouldn't necessarily 'be cold' here if the temp was 70 degrees, because the temps there in summer were often in the 90 to 100 degree range as well.