State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-16-2012

[luckyme]

The judge sounds like a airline pilot!! moo

 

[Cammy]

State calls...............Andy Parker

CCBI Investigator, I like this guy.

 

[cody100]

A PI, huh?

Thank you, Cody...

I wonder what kind of involvement he has in this case.


Oops, defense just basically destroyed this shoe witness, imo.

Perhaps Agent Morrow will have more to say on this.

 

[Shadow722]

The shoe print seals the deal for me.

My I ask how? The shoe prints to me (size 12 and size 10) is the one and only thing that makes JY look not so guilty.

In thinking about the prints we have three options:

1) Jason came into the house wearing a pair of size tens, killed MY and then changed in his own shoes size 12's and stomped around some more in the blood to make sure it looked like he was there.

2) Jason came into the house wearing his size 12's, killed MY, and then pulled out a pair of size tens from under his arm and walked around some more in the blood.

3) Or, the killer (if my some odd happenstance it was not JY) murdered MY wearing his own size tens, then opened JY closet and slipped on a pair of JY's own shoes.


Option 3 makes the most sense, neither 1 or 2 make any sense at all, in the overall pattern of the crime, because if JY did have a pair of size tens to stomp the crime scene. We would NEVER have his size 12's in MY blood in that case.

Only someone who was NOT JY would want JY's shoe prints in MY's blood at the crime scene. JMHO...

 

[Boodles]

I thought it was testified that he was drunk? How many incidents were there? Not saying it's right but people do really dreadful things when drunk which they may or may not regret later!

I must address this because it is such a misconception that drinking is a cause and/or excuse for abusers.

Abusers are abusers regardless of drinking. They make a choice to abuse, and this choice is a conscious one coming from the need to control. DRINKING DOES NOT CAUSE ABUSE. Respectfully, if you believe that it does, you are mistaken, and I would suggest researching the subject to become more knowledgeable.

 

[Cammy]

What happened? Thanks

Klinkosum got him to admit he could not say it was an exact match.

 

[gritguy]

I'm hearing testimony today. They have this thing rolling like a well-oiled machine. Some point perhaps belabored, but not insanely so and no unnecessary theatrics by the attorneys. Defense cross is purposeful and efficient, IMO.

I still think during that sidebar around 12:30 during the MM testimony one attorney had said, "Your honor I move that we take a break asap before I starve to death" and the other side quickly said, "No objection to that judge."

 

[fran]

So, MM is done already.

She did confirm that Jason told her about going to the 2nd app't , and the papers in the printer.

Of course he told MM about the papers in the printer. It's called "staging."

JMHO
fran

 

[Cammy]

I apologize if I implied that was only post of yours I saw as good. :blushing:

Hey, one is good for me !!

:floorlaugh:

 

[MyBelle]

Again we'll have to agree to disagree.

Most people I know don't make excuses for abusers. So, IMHO, the jury, or at least some or perhaps ALL, will remember her testimony.

JMHO
fran

I wasn't suggesting anybody will excuse his behavior. I think the jury will disregard the incident because it happened long before his marriage, was with another woman and also while he was drunk. In contrast, the therapist's conversation with Michelle was shortly before the murder. She specifically said there was no physical violence in the marriage and the murder was incredibly violent.

JMO

 

[RaleighNC]

Didn't she also testify that the reason they were fighting was because he was drunk? The big problem for the prosecution is that--while Young apparently made quite a fool of himself when drinking--there is no evidence he had anything to drink the night of Michelle's murder.

JMO

Making a fool of oneself does not equate to going on a murderous rampage. I've tried to release eggplants back into the wild in the grocery store at 2 AM (don't ask....:floorlaugh and I will admit to making a complete fool of myself on more than one occasion....

I don't think Jason was a mean drunk - he was a stupid drunk. At least in public.

I would think alcohol would make him less able to pull this off, and work in the defense's favor if he'd had a few. He was def a life of the party guy (again - if by "life of the party" you mean peeing on the floor in front of people - which apparently is WAY more common than I would have ever guessed.......)

Oh what a sheltered life I lead.....

 

[fran]

But, I will state for the record my prediction that the jury will either return a verdict of guilty, not guilty, or announce themselves unable to agree. :fence:

I'm so glad you were verified so now we know that what you say on here is to be trusted, from a legal point.

LOL,
fran

 

[dmaxphil]

Hi folks, just joined and just started following case.

Quick question.. What was determined to be the time of death for MY?

 

[3doglady]

My I ask how? The shoe prints to me (size 12 and size 10) is the one and only thing that makes JY look not so guilty.

In thinking about the prints we have three options:

1) Jason came into the house wearing a pair of size tens, killed MY and then changed in his own shoes size 12's and stomped around some more in the blood to make sure it looked like he was there.

2) Jason came into the house wearing his size 12's, killed MY, and then pulled out a pair of size tens from under his arm and walked around some more in the blood.

3) Or, the killer (if my some odd happenstance it was not JY) murdered MY wearing his own size tens, then opened JY closet and slipped on a pair of JY's own shoes.


Option 3 makes the most sense, neither 1 or 2 make any sense at all, in the overall pattern of the crime, because if JY did have a pair of size tens to stomp the crime scene. We would NEVER have his size 12's in MY blood in that case.

Only someone who was NOT JY would want JY's shoe prints in MY's blood at the crime scene. JMHO...

The size 10 shoe does not discount the size 12 shoe in the same size and brand that JY owned. There are only so many coincidences that can occur. I don't have an explanation for the 10, but it does not erase the fact that JY owned a pair of shoes with the same print as the print in the house.

 

[Cammy]

Perhaps Agent Morrow will have more to say on this.

Yes, I remember Karen Morrow's testimony well.

 

[~n/t~]

I must address this because it is such a misconception that drinking is a cause and/or excuse for abusers.

Abusers are abusers regardless of drinking. They make a choice to abuse, and this choice is a conscious one coming from the need to control. DRINKING DOES NOT CAUSE ABUSE. Respectfully, if you believe that it does, you are mistaken, and I would suggest researching the subject to become more knowledgeable.

I'm very knowledgeable. I'm commenting on this trial and what has been presented thus far. I never said drinking is a cause or excuse for abusers. Where in my post did you see that? I have not seen or heard testimony that Jason was a wife beater. Mental abuse, perhaps and MY didn't deserve this guy based on all we've heard about his affairs but so far I have not seen any domestic violence reports, testimony from doctors and/or her family or friends that MY was physically abused.

She may have been but how can one make that assumption based on nothing presented at this trial?

 

[tarheel8600]

Hi folks, just joined and just started following case.

Quick question.. What was determined to be the time of death for MY?

I believe TOD was approximated at between midnight and 6:00 am.

 

[Cammy]

Hi folks, just joined and just started following case.

Quick question.. What was determined to be the time of death for MY?

Open from midnite to 6 am.

 

[MyBelle]

My I ask how? The shoe prints to me (size 12 and size 10) is the one and only thing that makes JY look not so guilty.

In thinking about the prints we have three options:

1) Jason came into the house wearing a pair of size tens, killed MY and then changed in his own shoes size 12's and stomped around some more in the blood to make sure it looked like he was there.

2) Jason came into the house wearing his size 12's, killed MY, and then pulled out a pair of size tens from under his arm and walked around some more in the blood.

3) Or, the killer (if my some odd happenstance it was not JY) murdered MY wearing his own size tens, then opened JY closet and slipped on a pair of JY's own shoes.


Option 3 makes the most sense, neither 1 or 2 make any sense at all, in the overall pattern of the crime, because if JY did have a pair of size tens to stomp the crime scene. We would NEVER have his size 12's in MY blood in that case.

Only someone who was NOT JY would want JY's shoe prints in MY's blood at the crime scene. JMHO...

I agree with you. If it were Jason wearing those size 12 shoes, he not only would have disposed of the shoes, he also would have disposed of the bloody shoe print.

JMO

 

[Shelby1]

Hi folks, just joined and just started following case.

Quick question.. What was determined to be the time of death for MY?

Welcome!!!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: