sub shows Brokeback Mtn to 8th graders

  • #101
Absolutely. The teacher should have had the approval of the school first and then the parents, which I'm pretty sure would have been impossible to obtain. There's no way my child would be allowed to attend another class with this teacher after something like this.
I meant to also include the school (because I don't think that the school would have allowed it). I think that the substitute knew better. I don't know the motive in showing the movie. I guess that I might find out if I read the entire thread. :blushing:
 
  • #102
I meant to also include the school (because I don't think that the school would have allowed it). I think that the substitute knew better. I don't know the motive in showing the movie. I guess that I might find out if I read the entire thread. :blushing:

I'll save you some time, nan. We're all in the same boat as you. Nobody can fathom what the sub was thinking or why she showed the film.
 
  • #103
To be a sub in GA all you need is a GED. And to take a sub cert class. Oh and pass a background check.


Substitutes no longer have to be certified teachers. They need only two years of college and a certain number of hours of education classes. :eek:
 
  • #104
To be a sub in GA all you need is a GED. And to take a sub cert class. Oh and pass a background check.
we can end alot of these threads if we include a common sense test.

1) would you have sex with your student?
2) would you tell them a gun man is near as a prank?
3) would you use duck tape or clothes pins to keep them quite?
4) are you a idiot?

something simple like that.
 
  • #105
I'll save you some time, nan. We're all in the same boat as you. Nobody can fathom what the sub was thinking or why she showed the film.
Thanks!
 
  • #106
While I enjoyed the movie myself, I would never allow my kids to see it!!!! It is just to much for children to take in. I hope that teacher is not allowed in a classroom again.
 
  • #107
  • #108
You forgot the part about the broken pickle dish. Riveting!

The sledding disaster wasn't an accident; Ethan and his wife's cousin Mattie were trying to commit suicide because they were in love, but couldn't afford (morally or financially) to be together. The suicide went awry (sledding into a tree is not the most efficient method) and both were crippled, Mattie to the point of being a perpetual invalid.

So Ethan is left partially crippled and with the wife he hates and the lover he has destroyed and forced to wait on both, hand and foot.

(The illnesses and handicaps are metaphors for moral and spiritual impairment.)

Personally, I loved it. But I didn't read it in high school; I read it much later, after I learned that life is all about disappointment and shattered dreams.

OK - I know I'm waaay off topic now - but ARE YOU KIDDING ME, Nova?? I didn't think this could get worse... she actually wrote a novel where the people tried to commit suicide by SLEDDING??? SLEDDING??? Ok, suicide isn't funny, but this is really hilarious...

I might have to reread it... I don't remember the pickle dish either...
 
  • #109
OK - I know I'm waaay off topic now - but ARE YOU KIDDING ME, Nova?? I didn't think this could get worse... she actually wrote a novel where the people tried to commit suicide by SLEDDING??? SLEDDING??? Ok, suicide isn't funny, but this is really hilarious...

I might have to reread it... I don't remember the pickle dish either...

Oh, Ang, we can't be too literal. To Ethan and Mattie, sledding represents freedom from toil and smothering obligation. Sledding into a tree is the ultimate leap to freedom. And of course the point of the book is that the "ties that bind" can never be broken.
 
  • #110
Oh, Ang, we can't be too literal. To Ethan and Mattie, sledding represents freedom from toil and smothering obligation. Sledding into a tree is the ultimate leap to freedom. And of course the point of the book is that the "ties that bind" can never be broken.

Fair enough... but I was still in 9th grade... I definitely got Thelma and Louise's car cliff drive and the messages therein even at that age... but I definitely didn't understand the sledding... I'm sure my English teacher tried to explain - but it was still such a disappointment to the scandal I was imagining.

If I read this, I might also have to pick up Thoreau again - he was written off sophomore year... sooooo boring....
 
  • #111
BTW - this will not make the papers, but along the topic lines...

A daycare in my area was recently investigated after a 7 year old had nightmares all night. Turns out the daycare showed "Child's Play" (I believe this is the Chuckie movie) to the kids. :eek:
 
  • #112
BTW - this will not make the papers, but along the topic lines...

A daycare in my area was recently investigated after a 7 year old had nightmares all night. Turns out the daycare showed "Child's Play" (I believe this is the Chuckie movie) to the kids. :eek:
omg....
 
  • #113
BTW - this will not make the papers, but along the topic lines...

A daycare in my area was recently investigated after a 7 year old had nightmares all night. Turns out the daycare showed "Child's Play" (I believe this is the Chuckie movie) to the kids. :eek:

nice...
 
  • #114
Fair enough... but I was still in 9th grade... I definitely got Thelma and Louise's car cliff drive and the messages therein even at that age... but I definitely didn't understand the sledding... I'm sure my English teacher tried to explain - but it was still such a disappointment to the scandal I was imagining.

If I read this, I might also have to pick up Thoreau again - he was written off sophomore year... sooooo boring....

I do wonder why it was considered a "9th grade" book. Probably because it's a "classic," but still fairly short. Sort of like Eliot's "Silas Marner." (I always got those two confused until I read them.)

I always thought Thoreau was boring, too. But I haven't read him since junior high.

(ETA: I have assumed we were just kidding around about Ethan Frome. I didn't mean to seriously give you a hard time for not liking it and I can well imagine it seeming dull in 9th grade.)
 
  • #115
(ETA: I have assumed we were just kidding around about Ethan Frome. I didn't mean to seriously give you a hard time for not liking it and I can well imagine it seeming dull in 9th grade.)

I'm definitely kidding - and took yours as such! :blowkiss: I appreciated the commentary b/c I didn't remember the themes from 9th grade - only the sledding...

And BTW - I'm pretty literal now, so I'm quite sure the subtleties escaped me in 9th grade too... I'm much more of a "say what you mean" person - even in the books I read... maybe that's why I enjoy non-fiction.

In fact, it wasn't until I read the recommended review of Brokeback that I remembered all the underlying tensions and themes - power dynamics in relationships (i.e. the one that holds back and tries to control things vs. the other who is straightforward and seems "needy" - in hetero and same sex couples - a big issue) moral choices keeping people in marriages, social constraints on gender, and so on...
 
  • #116
Substitutes no longer have to be certified teachers. They need only two years of college and a certain number of hours of education classes. :eek:

ljwf, I was just to post the same thing. No full time accredited teacher would do this. This was NOT a professional teacher and it was completely out place to show this movie. Ya gotta remember that they make movies to make money and this was a very politically correct movie for an adult audience. Thank God the Hollywood producers don't write school textbooks!

xxxxxxoooooo
mama
:blowkiss: :blowkiss:
 
  • #117
BTW - this will not make the papers, but along the topic lines...

A daycare in my area was recently investigated after a 7 year old had nightmares all night. Turns out the daycare showed "Child's Play" (I believe this is the Chuckie movie) to the kids. :eek:

I actually think this is worse. That is almost abusive.
 
  • #118
I actually think this is worse. That is almost abusive.

The worst is that the provider stated "He wanted to watch it. What's wrong?"
Honestly, seriously, didn't know why it was a problem...
 
  • #119
ljwf, I was just to post the same thing. No full time accredited teacher would do this. This was NOT a professional teacher and it was completely out place to show this movie. Ya gotta remember that they make movies to make money and this was a very politically correct movie for an adult audience. Thank God the Hollywood producers don't write school textbooks!

xxxxxxoooooo
mama
:blowkiss: :blowkiss:

"Very politically correct"? What are you smoking? :confused:
 
  • #120
ljwf, I was just to post the same thing. No full time accredited teacher would do this. This was NOT a professional teacher and it was completely out place to show this movie. Ya gotta remember that they make movies to make money and this was a very politically correct movie for an adult audience. Thank God the Hollywood producers don't write school textbooks!

xxxxxxoooooo
mama
:blowkiss: :blowkiss:

Love_Mama,

Have you seen this movie? How in the world is it politically correct?
 

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