Teen mom shoots intruder dead 1 week after husband dies of cancer

[Mikebr]

The Blanchard ranch hand died slumped over a couch McKinley had used to barricade the door, gripping a knife in his gloved hand.

McKinley said he had been trying for 20 minutes to break into the house before she shot him. She said she suspects he had been stalking her for weeks while her husband lay dying of cancer.

http://newsok.com/article/3638247


btw that is another version of her stalking story....one family member said since husband had died...mother claimed it started two years ago...hmmm...plot continues to thicken.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/05/okla-mom-shoots-intruder-no-charges_n_1186096.html

you will have to play the abc report down below...reporter says she thought she recognized one of the men as someone who had been stalking her. Really? new version.

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2012...sty-stewart-charged-with-first-degree-murder/

read quote midway down from daily mail quoting a ok tv station...another version.


another link no reference to stalking...but reference to prior breakins and drugs missing. btw the police did not find pills in the house...strange, where did they go? of course you want a link..i will try and find it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Shane-Martin-looking-prescription-drugs.html


another ABC video...loads slowly...this is one of the reports that make you think it happened at night, but it happened at 2 pm....
again reporter says she referred to him as "that man" a man she thought was stalking her....

http://crippledscience.com/?p=8204

another link to mother mentioning rodeo stalking...and only article she says there were two men, one in front and one in back..wonder why she felt she needed to make that up? she never tells dispatch..she refers to a man, him..he...never they.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-babys-father-died-cancer.html#ixzz1iXidtFd2



its not that she claimed he is a stalker that bugs me...its just that she made it up.


when someone keeps morphing a story to convince you then they are not convinced themselves that they sound credible.

I went to the store, then i went to pick up my son at childcare and then came home about 5 pm...Versus...



I went to the store because i need to get some paint because i was going to paint my garage this weekend, then i went to get my son at childcare and i couldn't be late since we get charged if i pick him up after 5 pm and then i came home, saw my neighbor cutting the yard and waved at him as i went in the house..he always cuts his yard in the evening.......

one of them is telling what they did...one is trying to convince you of what they did...who is likely lying?

 

[mysteriew]

that response is laughable. i would also announce it. like i said, when that door swung open, in your theory, he knew it was occupied...he could have already prepared to be shot at...and how many rounds are in that shotgun, two or three? the one she poses with is a side by side..so two...what then? she is just lucky he thought it was an empty home. Its better to leave the bad guy on the other side of the door. and letting him know you are armed and the police are on the way is going to scare the bad guy off 99% of the time....and yelling is not goint to tip him off of where she is...not that that would matter much anyway. if he was just plain crazy he might keep coming, but she could still shoot him. so yes not only do i think avoiding having to shoot is the best course of action if you can...i would practice that myself. so go ahead annie oakley get your gun.

In most states (and evidently this one) it is not required that the homeowner announce his presence. It is not required that the homeowner announce he/she is armed. All that is required is that the burglar break into the home. That is what happened. And she acted according to law. As evidenced by the 911 call.

The accusations of stalking, the accusations of dope dealing (though I have to say I haven't seen this accusation anywhere else), the dogs none of the rest of it is really pertinent. He broke in. She shot him. Period. Legal shoot. She can now say he was "the riddler" and was wearing green and spouting riddles and it won't change anything.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

In most states (and evidently this one) it is not required that the homeowner announce his presence. It is not required that the homeowner announce he/she is armed. All that is required is that the burglar break into the home. That is what happened. And she acted according to law. As evidenced by the 911 call.

The accusations of stalking, the accusations of dope dealing (though I have to say I haven't seen this accusation anywhere else), the dogs none of the rest of it is really pertinent. He broke in. She shot him. Period. Legal shoot. She can now say he was "the riddler" and was wearing green and spouting riddles and it won't change anything.

Exactly!

 

[Mikebr]

In most states (and evidently this one) it is not required that the homeowner announce his presence. It is not required that the homeowner announce he/she is armed. All that is required is that the burglar break into the home. That is what happened. And she acted according to law. As evidenced by the 911 call.

The accusations of stalking, the accusations of dope dealing (though I have to say I haven't seen this accusation anywhere else), the dogs none of the rest of it is really pertinent. He broke in. She shot him. Period. Legal shoot. She can now say he was "the riddler" and was wearing green and spouting riddles and it won't change anything.

I would normally agree. i would have no problem with this shooting and did not until i kept seeing the descrepancies...and a growing story. and you are right, nobody has to announce in most states..but even cops announce..its always better to avoid confrontation and bloodshed, don't you think? its the changing versions that bother me...what are they trying conceal? or is the press doing such a bad job that all these versions have been created? lay out all the versions and ask yourself why are they necessary for a good shoot?

 

[Mikebr]

i posted many stalking links..enjoy.

 

[Fairy1]

I would normally agree. i would have no problem with this shooting and did not until i kept seeing the descrepancies...and a growing story. and you are right, nobody has to announce in most states..but even cops announce..its always better to avoid confrontation and bloodshed, don't you think? its the changing versions that bother me...what are they trying conceal? or is the press doing such a bad job that all these versions have been created? lay out all the versions and ask yourself why are they necessary for a good shoot?

BBM

That would be my guess. The whole story has been quite sensationalized, IMO. There was plenty of drama with just the basic facts - a widowed, teenaged mother, an infant, a bad guy, a knife and a gun.

This girl was thrust into the national spotlight almost immediately after losing her husband, having just recently given birth and shooting a guy who threatened her well-being as well as that of her baby.

None of us should presume to know how she feels about anything.

 

[Melanie]

Nancy Grace said something the other night about questioning the victim, and I think it's appropriate to share it here. While there will be times where people may question the actions of a victim, it's important that we as a people realize they are just that - victims. Just like in this case, or the Joran Vandersloot case, or a plethera of others.

I have to applaud Nancy for standing up for all Victims. My apology if this seems OT, but I do feel it appropriate for this thread (shoulda done, coulda done, woulda done).

All the best,

Mel

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/bestoftv/2012/01/12/bts-grace-ludwig-crazy-cut-mic.hln

 

[KALI]

we all have the right to shoot an intruder...but there is no proof he was coming for her. he was coming for drugs. and i believe at the end of the day, he thought the house was empty.. maybe i am wrong. but based on all that we know, he never tried to communicate with her, he tried to open doors...like a burglar not a home invader. what idiot would spend 20 minutes trying to break into an occupied home? how could anyone know it would take 20 mins for a cop to get there?

Don't think u care much about timing. If stoned. Whether they knew she was there or not. She had every right to shoot.

 

[SmoothOperator]

it was 2 pm...and she was whispering on 911, which makes me believe she believed he did not know she was there...and there is never a reference of anything personal such as he is trying to get me...all that "he came at me with a knife" came after the shooting...i am a little concerned he was still clutching the knife when police arrived..but that was in some news story not from the cops..but my guess if you had a knife in your hand and someone shot you with a shotgun you would drop the knife as you died and fell over the couch...but like i said, that may have been dramatic writing added by reporters...so much of this story is drama added by the press and people with agendas other than the facts. so this girl might be a victim of the press too...but as i have heard the facts...there seems to be big gaps.

If it was 2pm when it occurred why exactly are you questioning why this young woman didnt "turn on the lights"?

That's exactly what began the now two pages of questioning this victim.. Why she didn't turn on the lights and yell???.. Yet it happened at 2pm?

As far as the bottom line.. The bottom line is I don't give a rats azz who they were or what they wanted.. They broke in and it's justifiable homicide..

 

[Mikebr]

If it was 2pm when it occurred why exactly are you questioning why this young woman didnt "turn on the lights"?

That's exactly what began the now two pages of questioning this victim.. Why she didn't turn on the lights and yell???.. Yet it happened at 2pm?

As far as the bottom line.. The bottom line is I don't give a rats azz who they were or what they wanted.. They broke in and it's justifiable homicide..

all fine and good, but why are they lying about the dead boy? whats the point in that?

 

[KALI]

He was NOT a "BOY".

from CBS News: Snip

When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

He's "buddy" already admitted that they were high on drugs and looking for more.

I truly do not get where you are coming from. I know this is a discussion board-so I'm all fine with "discussing".
However- calling this 24 year old MAN. A BOY-is an absolute insult to our intelligence. Additionally, hinting, that she and/or her husband were drug dealers is also unbelievable to me. NOWHERE in the news has that been stated, or even hinted at.

This dude, busted into her trailer-high on drugs, armed with a big knife. He was no boy. He was a dangerous, druggie with a big knife, breaking into a home-that he had absolutley no business being at.

Also, neither LE or the media, has even hinted at any lying by the victim here. This is what you would like to believe in MHO. Why you keep defending this criminal-against this victim, really just blows my personal mind.

As to some people getting emotional about this. My ex-husband went after me more then once (yes, I would say I was in great fear of my life). I was also robbed at gun-point by a drugged out man while working a night shift when merely 18 years of age. I feel lucky to have escaped both of these incidents with my life.

Would I shoot and kill someone breaking into my home? You betcha. I don't even know if I'd feel bad about it afterwards.

all fine and good, but why are they lying about the dead boy? whats the point in that?

 

[Mikebr]

He was NOT a "BOY".

from CBS News: Snip

When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

He's "buddy" already admitted that they were high on drugs and looking for more.

I truly do not get where you are coming from. I know this is a discussion board-so I'm all fine with "discussing".
However- calling this 24 year old MAN. A BOY-is an absolute insult to our intelligence. Additionally, hinting, that she and/or her husband were drug dealers is also unbelievable to me. NOWHERE in the news has that been stated, or even hinted at.

This dude, busted into her trailer-high on drugs, armed with a big knife. He was no boy. He was a dangerous, druggie with a big knife, breaking into a home-that he had absolutley no business being at.

Also, neither LE or the media, has even hinted at any lying by the victim here. This is what you would like to believe in MHO. Why you keep defending this criminal-against this victim, really just blows my personal mind.

As to some people getting emotional about this. My ex-husband went after me more then once (yes, I would say I was in great fear of my life). I was also robbed at gun-point by a drugged out man while working a night shift when merely 18 years of age. I feel lucky to have escaped both of these incidents with my life.

Would I shoot and kill someone breaking into my home? You betcha. I don't even know if I'd feel bad about it afterwards.

well again you bring in your personal experience into an investigation. sorry sonmeone attacked you but that has no place in this discussion. and again i agree, anyone who breaks into a home is asking for a bullet. and your grasping onto my use of boy <modsnip>..i am 51 so he is a boy to me....
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my question is...again...why would a victim need to make up the stalker issue? why? and she claimed in a later interview that someone was sneaking into her house while she was away and pills were missing...but when the police searched her house, they claimed no pills were found...i have asked these questions before, but why if you believe you were totally innocent make up stalking and pill stealing? and if this husband recently died where are his pain pills? lying is a sign of something. and i don't beleive he was coming at her with a knife, but i would agree many burglaries turn into murder when the burglar finds someone home they did not expect...so again i know if my door flew open i would most likely shoot..but again, i would not embellish or even lie about the dead guy...why? does that not bother anyone but me? he clearly never stalked her..even the many versions of stalking offered are never examples of stalking..her last statement was she didn't know him, only saw him three times...my amateurish detective nosy self cannot understand this...this man, kid, guy, wanted drugs...no doubt...

we had an 82 year old man kill an intruder last night near my town..he lived alone and had been burglarized a week or so ago...a 24 yo career theif and drug addict was breaking into his house and he heard him and came down and shot thru the door and killed him...as i understand it, the door was ajar and opening as he shot..well i agree with that shoot..and the guy is not apologetic and should not be...but everything he has said is consistent...i would not shoot thru a door, but i am not 82....i am not sure he could take the risk...but as a hunter you never shoot what you can't identify. but self protection is another thing. i think the imagery of this young mother has made what she has said irrelevant to most people..but it bugs me a lot.

 

[shana]

I'm sorry to see this thread go this way. I've been following closely and reading carefully if not critically the posts and their replies, each & every one.

For me, it comes down to the culprit being the media...for the confusion and resulting disagreement here. In the end, there is more agreement than is being acknowledged.

I've been keeping my SO apprised of the developments on case, based on what I had read in news reports (links here) and what I had heard on HLN (sketchily). About 3 days ago, I had told him I heard that Sarah had 'known' the assailant. Next day, I said it is reported that he was stalking her.

Then I heard my own voice saying, "Stalking...like her Mother said, 2 yrs ago at a rodeo, plus she's run into him in-town a few times since and...um, waitasec!"

First of all, stalking as a standalone crime has to meet a test far better than that, obviously. Secondly, the visit to Sarah's home on NYE was not "stalking" either, imo, but more like "casing the joint" if that.

What does any of this mean to the end of the story? Likely nothing. But I do understand the questioning of 'facts' as reported.

~jmo, carrion~

 

[Mikebr]

I'm sorry to see this thread go this way. I've been following closely and reading carefully if not critically the posts and their replies, each & every one.

For me, it comes down to the culprit being the media...for the confusion and resulting disagreement here. In the end, there is more agreement than is being acknowledged.

I've been keeping my SO apprised of the developments on case, based on what I had read in news reports (links here) and what I had heard on HLN (sketchily). About 3 days ago, I had told him I heard that Sarah had 'known' the assailant. Next day, I said it is reported that he was stalking her.

Then I heard my own voice saying, "Stalking...like her Mother said, 2 yrs ago at a rodeo, plus she's run into him in-town a few times since and...um, waitasec!"

First of all, stalking as a standalone crime has to meet a test far better than that, obviously. Secondly, the visit to Sarah's home on NYE was not "stalking" either, imo, but more like "casing the joint" if that.

What does any of this mean to the end of the story? Likely nothing. But I do understand the questioning of 'facts' as reported.

~jmo, carrion~

i am upsetting people with my questions...and i don't mean to...but i have often qualified it with perhaps the press in their clumbsy reporting has created these inconsistencies...i have posted in an earlier post the many versions of stalking...i have also considered the fact that this is not a sophisticated woman..she is young, uneducated and has lived with a man over 40 since 15 who she just recently married before he died...so maybe her mother or others scared her and told her she could be in trouble and she better make this look good..you never know..if she had said i don't know the guy or barely knew him, he busted in and i shot...i would be fine with that...

the other issue with the pills...she volunteered that there had been missing pain pills and she suspected someone was entering her unlocked trailer and taking them...now ask yourself, what drug addict would come in and take a few at a time? and where did those unused pills go? hydrocodon or oxicoton are both pain pills often prescribed to cancer patients...they are causing a serious addiction problem in this country...armed robberies at drug stores, high school kids even stealing from grandparent and selling at school..extremely highly addictive opiates...basically heroin...they go for many times their legal cost on the street. this young woman said she sold her dead husbands guns to pay for his funeral...what would stop her or for that matter him before he died from selling a few of these pills if they needed the money..wouldn't be the first time...so this is where i am going...why lie about the dead guy? why discuss missing pills...when the police found no pills..where did they go? why bring up dead and missing dogs? its clear this intruder wanted drugs..pure and simple..not sex, not dogs, he wanted drugs...the knife probably used as a tool..it could have been ugly if she had not shot, or maybe if she had made it known she was home, he would have left...not sure...but the press created imagery that is not consistent with the facts.

 

[Fairy1]

IIRC, LE has said there would be no charges filed against this girl. Sooooooo, as I understand it, the ongoing investigation pertains to those who were attempting to break into her home.

As far as the shooting goes, are you questioning the ability of LE to determine whether it was justified?

I don't recall this girl ever saying anything about "stalking." IIRC, it was her mother who said that and the press seems to have run with it. Who cares? Who cares if she knew the guy or not? Who cares how well she knew him?

This MAN was attempting to break into her home. She had every right to protect herself and her child, regardless of who was attempting to break in.

And, IIRC, not only did he have a knife, but he was also wearing gloves. Does that strike you as someone who was just stopping by to say "hello?"

 

[krimekat]

She is justified in the law of the State of OK . . . good for her!

I don't care WHY somebody's trying to break into my house, but if I am armed & within the boundaries of the law, I will protect myself, my family, and my stuff/possessions.

I do believe there is history between these people & the perps knew she had drugs in the house due to her husband's illness. What people won't do for drugs!!! I think our War on Drugs is lost . . .

 

[Mikebr]

IIRC, LE has said there would be no charges filed against this girl. Sooooooo, as I understand it, the ongoing investigation pertains to those who were attempting to break into her home.

As far as the shooting goes, are you questioning the ability of LE to determine whether it was justified?

I don't recall this girl ever saying anything about "stalking." IIRC, it was her mother who said that and the press seems to have run with it. Who cares? Who cares if she knew the guy or not? Who cares how well she knew him?

This MAN was attempting to break into her home. She had every right to protect herself and her child, regardless of who was attempting to break in.

And, IIRC, not only did he have a knife, but he was also wearing gloves. Does that strike you as someone who was just stopping by to say "hello?"

Excuse me...but this sight got the biggest push from the Jonbonet ramsey murder case when everyone knows the LE screwed up...so yes i don't really care what this sheriff thinks...i have questions..maybe created by bad reporting..but good questions given what we know. and she did tell reporters she had been stalked...but you will have to go back to one of my post and read my links to the various stories..i am not arguing with anyone...if you want to always agree with law enforcement then you probably will be very bored on this website.

i am pretty certain he was planning on burglarizing that trailer, but i think he thought it was empty..i don't believe he was there to attack anyone..but it is still a good shoot even if he didn't know...i made a point though earlier i still think a burgular would run if he thought someone was home..and its always better to avoid the ultimate act if it can be...once that door flew open anything could of happened...this 5 foot intruder was a ranch hand..probably always had a knife and gloves..but he was there to steal drugs...not to rape anyone. not saying he did not deserve what he got...but why does the woman need to make up stories about him? if she did nothing wrong then why lie? just as supposition..could it be because she recognized him from when her husband sold pills to him? ever think of that?

 

[Fairy1]

Excuse me...but this sight got the biggest push from the Jonbonet ramsey murder case when everyone knows the LE screwed up...so yes i don't really care what this sheriff thinks...i have questions..maybe created by bad reporting..but good questions given what we know. and she did tell reporters she had been stalked...but you will have to go back to one of my post and read my links to the various stories..i am not arguing with anyone...if you want to always agree with law enforcement then you probably will be very bored on this website.

i am pretty certain he was planning on burglarizing that trailer, but i think he thought it was empty..i don't believe he was there to attack anyone..but it is still a good shoot even if he didn't know...i made a point though earlier i still think a burgular would run if he thought someone was home..and its always better to avoid the ultimate act if it can be...once that door flew open anything could of happened...this 5 foot intruder was a ranch hand..probably always had a knife and gloves..but he was there to steal drugs...not to rape anyone. not saying he did not deserve what he got...but why does the woman need to make up stories about him? if she did nothing wrong then why lie? just as supposition..could it be because she recognized him from when her husband sold pills to him? ever thing of that?

Excuse me.

He could have been her BFF. The bottom line is, she didn't allow him into her HOME. It doesn't really matter why he was there or what history possibly existed between them. She did not let him in, yet he came in anyway.

Period.

 

[Mikebr]

Excuse me.

He could have been her BFF. The bottom line is, she didn't allow him into her HOME. It doesn't really matter why he was there or what history possibly existed between them. She did not let him in, yet he came in anyway.

Period.

if a drug addict came back to buglarize their drug dealer and it was a man vs man would you be so sympathetic?

let go of the emotion of the issue...and look at the facts..why is she lying?

 

[Fairy1]

if a drug addict came back to buglarize their drug dealer and it was a man vs man would you be so sympathetic?

let go of the emotion of the issue...and look at the facts..why is she lying?

I don't believe she's lying.

And I don't care about the lifestyles or histories of anyone involved. She did not want him in her home and he came in anyway. She had a right to protect herself and her baby boy.