Teresa N., Haleigh's paternal grandmother #2

[Flossie JMO]

I believe you stated this as fact - that means - I further understand, YOU need to supply a need. NO?

Oh I thought advising you I didn't have the link handy would be sufficient. You can google it. It was awhile ago and I'm at my office right now and do not have a link handy.

 

[raeann]

I believe your stats to be very wrong on this. It has been my experience when people find a released balloon with a piece of paper inside, they pop it out of sheer curiousity probably the majority of the time. I think it is a throwback to the note in the bottle on the beach. How many people would see a message in a bottle and walk away?

We cannot possibly know if there was ANY tension between them unless we were present and witnessed it first hand. Snippets of video cannot determine how they interacted the entire time! I would bet that Teresa's tension is from stress that it is Haleigh's birthday and her she is concentrating on her.

Yes...snippets of video can't prove anything at all you are correct....just like the ones yesterday where it was insisted that because CS did not appear on a few seconds of news video that she failed to show up at her own event. Interesting how that works.

However, it is obvious that during this particular encounter between the two which is shown clearly in just a snippet....that for that moment they appeared to have tension between them. I did not speculate as to why for that very reason. Perhaps seconds before this MC stepped on TN foot, or said something that MC considered rude, any number of things could cause that moment to be tense. jmoo If one is able to read the post carefully....it clearly states that "the video did not show them to be" for the very reason that I stated....video does not show what actually happened when it is a very few seconds of a long event. ONCE AGAIN....jmoo

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I don't think it's surprising that relations may have cooled between TN and her DIL.

1. After all, Ron was arrested after a confrontation with that DIL's family - a confrontation that, per the LE Report, began when the DIL called her family to come and "rescue" her. As a result of that confrontation TN's only son is facing felony charges.

2. Two days later, LE is again involved when Ron is alleged to have left a headless dead rat in the DIL's brother's mailbox. Now, same only son maybe be facing federal charges.

3. Also, maybe TN doesn't appreciate the fact neither her DIL, nor her DIL's attorney, will meet with the investigators searching for her GD.

All in all, I think Misty can look forward to a seat at the children's table come Thanksgiving Dinner....MOO

 

[Malesherbes]

I don't think it's surprising that relations may have cooled between TN and her DIL.

1. After all, Ron was arrested after a confrontation with that DIL's family - a confrontation that, per the LE Report, began when the DIL called her family to come and "rescue" her. As a result of that confrontation TN's only son is facing felony charges.

2. Two days later, LE is again involved when Ron is alleged to have left a headless dead rat in the DIL's brother's mailbox. Now, same only son maybe be facing federal charges.

3. Also, maybe TN doesn't appreciate the fact neither her DIL, nor her DIL's attorney, will meet with the investigators searching for her GD.

All in all, I think Misty can look forward to a seat at the children's table come Thanksgiving Dinner....MOO

I am sure TN is questioning a lot of things, and perhaps they are not adding up for her either- jmo

 

[Blackwatch]

Oh I thought advising you I didn't have the link handy would be sufficient. You can google it. It was awhile ago and I'm at my office right now and do not have a link handy.

I "thought" this was a place for FACTS. I "believed" you had to back up what you say. Can you roughly estimate the time you WILL provide a link to your statement?

 

[Flossie JMO]

Just had two seconds to look, I read it on a true crime website: http://groups.google.com.kh/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/825e41bc28ff8f1e

(if you don't bookmark it, you can search Ruby Kanger haleigh bug and several links will come up)

 

[debs]

I don't think it's surprising that relations may have cooled between TN and her DIL.

1. After all, Ron was arrested after a confrontation with that DIL's family - a confrontation that, per the LE Report, began when the DIL called her family to come and "rescue" her. As a result of that confrontation TN's only son is facing felony charges.

2. Two days later, LE is again involved when Ron is alleged to have left a headless dead rat in the DIL's brother's mailbox. Now, same only son maybe be facing federal charges.

3. Also, maybe TN doesn't appreciate the fact neither her DIL, nor her DIL's attorney, will meet with the investigators searching for her GD.

All in all, I think Misty can look forward to a seat at the children's table come Thanksgiving Dinner....MOO

 

[raeann]

Just had two seconds to look, I read it on a true crime website: http://groups.google.com.kh/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/825e41bc28ff8f1e

(if you don't bookmark it, you can search Ruby Kanger haleigh bug and several links will come up)

As I understand from the mods....true crime blogs are not considered legitimate news links and are NOT to be posted here as such...jmoo

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

As I understand from the mods....true crime blogs are not considered legitimate news links and are NOT to be posted here as such...jmoo

That was my understanding as well. I would think that posts relying upon them for factual backup should be removed. JMO

 

[Flossie JMO]

This was the part specific to an interview with Ruby Kanger that I referred to:

"[The Haleigh Bug Center] isn't serving the purpose it was set up for,"
Kanger said. "I don't understand how [moving the center to Baker County] is
going to help with searches for Haleigh."


"I'd be climbing up trees, trying to get a better view of the ground,"
Kanger said, describing how hard a parent of a missing child should look.
Kanger, along with those in her household, are among the very few in the
family who continue to seek the child's whereabouts with ground searches.


Kanger said her family does not approve of what is occurring with the
Haleigh Bug Center and shed some unique light on the mystery that has always
hovered over the facility and those involved in keeping it. "There has not
been one search coordinated out of the Haleigh Bug Center," she said. "They
were supposed to coordinate searches out of there."


Is Haleigh Bug still in business?

 

[nomoresorrow]

That's what I thought. It would certainly be more efficient than each reader googling "Crystal's step great granny and outrage" and then hoping to find a statement the poster might be basing her conclusion on. :bang:

ITA Shaymus. It may get/seem redundent but when you state that so and so DID, SAID, WENT, HAD . . . you get the point, you post a link.
If you state IMO, so and so DID, SAID, WENT, HAD because . . . obviously there is no link to your opinion but I find it helpful to supply the link that I'm "opinionating on" just to avoid confusion and/or misunderstandings . . . IMO - Anyhow Shaymus, is this the link that Flossie was referring to . . .

(SkyNews article posted/link there - LINK TO ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW)

http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/its-a-mystery-to-me/4a72b5463f17b92c801de327dbbcd0cb

 

[raeann]

This new press release just might contribute some to the possible tension between TN and Misty.....IMOO


PCSO NEW PRESS RELEASE

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022713.php


August 17th, 2009


Today marks Haleigh Cummings’ sixth birthday, and a little over six months into the investigation of her disappearance. Sheriff Hardy’s interest in the public’s desire to bring Haleigh home, have led him to release the following update on the investigation.

Investigators from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and investigators from agencies throughout Florida have invested thousands of man-hours into the investigation thus far.

Here are some of the facts:

We have received in excess of 4,000 leads, all of which have been followed up.
We have conducted 138 formal interviews and several hundred informal interviews with potential witnesses. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.
FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE’s crime lab for analysis (ie. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be.
We have searched thousands of acres, including all property south of Highway 17 near the Cummings residence.
We have had numerous underwater recovery and search teams search all of the water near the area of the disappearance.
Aviation assets have conducted several airborne searches.
K9 assets have searched the area on several occasions.
Volunteer civilian searchers on foot and horseback searched the wooded areas near the residence.

At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

Sheriff Hardy realizes the importance of keeping the public involved in this case, and appreciates all of the leads that have been provided. Every lead that is provided is acted on by investigators. Sheriff Hardy cautions that because there are many who claim to be valid media outlets, that citizens should be careful not to fall into the trap of believing, or by accident spreading, the untrue and unreliable claims and assumptions of many bloggers who claim to be knowledgeable in the case. He also urges anyone that is assisting, or who wants to assist, to be cautious to stay within the bounds of their authority as they pursue their activities.

Sheriff Hardy wants to assure the public, but mainly Haleigh’s family, that we will continue to aggressively pursue this case and that we welcome the assistance of all Law Enforcement agencies or any other expert, including air, water, and ground searchers, that can assist in bringing Haleigh home.


Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office
130 Orie Griffin Blvd.
Palatka, Florida 32177
(386) 326.2782
[email protected]

 

[Flossie JMO]

I'm not sure nomoresorrow, that blog site you posted doesn't work for me?

ITA Shaymus. It may get/seem redundent but when you state that so and so DID, SAID, WENT, HAD . . . you get the point, you post a link.
If you state IMO, so and so DID, SAID, WENT, HAD because . . . obviously there is no link to your opinion but I find it helpful to supply the link that I'm "opinionating on" just to avoid confusion and/or misunderstandings . . . IMO - Anyhow Shaymus, is this the link that Flossie was referring to . . .

(SkyNews article posted/link there - LINK TO ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW)

http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/its-a-mystery-to-me/4a72b5463f17b92c801de327dbbcd0cb

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

ITA Shaymus. It may get/seem redundent but when you state that so and so DID, SAID, WENT, HAD . . . you get the point, you post a link.
If you state IMO, so and so DID, SAID, WENT, HAD because . . . obviously there is no link to your opinion but I find it helpful to supply the link that I'm "opinionating on" just to avoid confusion and/or misunderstandings . . . IMO - Anyhow Shaymus, is this the link that Flossie was referring to . . .

(SkyNews article posted/link there - LINK TO ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW)

http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/its-a-mystery-to-me/4a72b5463f17b92c801de327dbbcd0cb

Nope - she subsequently posted this link:

http://groups.google.com.kh/group/al...5e41bc28ff8f1e

I guess it's a blog. Are we allowed to link to them, now ?

 

[elle1919]

I am going to ignore all of the rude and snarky posts that are in this thread because that is what an adult does. Shay...I really agree with a lot that you stated in this thread.

Raeann...thank you for the post giving us this latest statement from LE. I get a whole lot more from this statement than I have from any previous. I am beginning to form an opinion. I think most interesting are the statements that RC and CS ARE NOT CONSIDERED suspects in this case. As well as the comment, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AT THE SCENE...does not line up with Misty's sketchy details of the evening.

Further-more they are asking that any citizen with knowledge of her activities please call in. Sounds like maybe TN might have good reason to be standoffish with Misty, if she is such good friends with the members of LE then I am sure that they have made her more than aware of their feelings about her daughter in law. I also tend to believe that while Tn loves her son very much she will not hold together much longer at his side because that is where Misty stands. And I really believe with all my heart that Misty is a liar.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I'm not sure nomoresorrow, that blog site you posted doesn't work for me?

Hmmm... it just worked fine for me when I clicked on it - ??? :waitasec:

 

[Flossie JMO]

Hmmm... it just worked fine for me when I clicked on it - ??? :waitasec:

Thanks, must be my computer.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BB NMS)

I am going to ignore all of the rude and snarky posts that are in this thread because that is what an adult does. Shay...I really agree with a lot that you stated in this thread.

Raeann...thank you for the post giving us this latest statement from LE. I get a whole lot more from this statement than I have from any previous. I am beginning to form an opinion. I think most interesting are the statements that RC and CS ARE NOT CONSIDERED suspects in this case. As well as the comment, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AT THE SCENE...does not line up with Misty's sketchy details of the evening.

Further-more they are asking that any citizen with knowledge of her activities please call in. Sounds like maybe TN might have good reason to be standoffish with Misty, if she is such good friends with the members of LE then I am sure that they have made her more than aware of their feelings about her daughter in law. I also tend to believe that while Tn loves her son very much she will not hold together much longer at his side because that is where Misty stands. And I really believe with all my heart that Misty is a liar.

PCSO;
"Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities."
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022713.php

ITA with that! (above bolded) I think that there's a real possibility she won't be sitting at the kiddies table (Shaymus) for Thanksgiving dinner with the Cumming's family although I do see her wearing pumpkin orange by that time . . . OMO

 

[badme102]

Oh I thought advising you I didn't have the link handy would be sufficient. You can google it. It was awhile ago and I'm at my office right now and do not have a link handy.

Rumor Thread would probably be better for this....stuff, wouldnt it?

 

[elle1919]

Sometimes the questions are complicated but the answers are simple. Isn't that the truth. Sounds like something Judge Judy might say. I like that tag nomoresorrow