The Dixie Chicks

[Nova]

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Hey, Nova - You could get your Christmas shopping done in one fell swoop! Buy all your friends and family a copy of the latest Dixie Chicks' CD!! :blowkiss:

Naw, Nan. I gotta save some change for your girl, Katharine McPhee. She did quite nicely last night and, Who knows? She may have a CD out by Christmas. :blowkiss:

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Don't dare speak out against your own it would seem.
Stand by your Prez, even when he is corrupt.

Ahhhhh, so this is what you were talking about. LOL I say speak out as much as you want. Just have the guts to do so in your own country and don't going around boohooing when it comes full circle.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Oh, come on. The myth (whether true or not) is that Buddy Holly (and other early rockers) were "hated" for singing rock at a time when it was considered "African-American" music (to put it nicely) or just play "Satanic." There are scenes about this in the movie bio, to take just one example.

Every sane person now sees this early hysteria about "demon rock 'n roll" as silly and most now see Holly as a great songwriter. So whether she is historically accurate or not, the "hatred" of Holly to which the song refers is a badge of honor and very much to Mr. Holly's credit. IT'S A COMPLIMENT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SONG.

Some people (and I don't mean just at this forum) are twisting themselves ever' which way to demonize the Chicks and for what? A half-dozen or so words about the worst president, possibly ever? Strange priorities.

So the family shouldn't be hurt because some people had that opinion about their music 40 years ago? There was no need for them to even bring it up.

 

[tybee204]

Anyone who joins the service is paid to serve our country if needed. Everyone who enters the military knows this. It is voluntary.

I find it amazing that some people think that it is okay to reap the benefits but balk when they are actually called upon to perform their particular jobs.

It's a tough job. I wouldn't do it. I admire those who serve our country. However, I have no respect who willingly take the paychecks and benefits and then complain when it is time to actually do what they have been paid to do.

Thats correct and in doing so they and their families put faith in the Commander in Chief to not put them in harms way based on an agenda other then what is right for America. Abusing the willingness of American Soldiers to fight and die for their Country is the biggest abuse of power a sitting President can achieve IMO.

 

[nanandjim]

Naw, Nan. I gotta save some change for your girl, Katharine McPhee. She did quite nicely last night and, Who knows? She may have a CD out by Christmas. :blowkiss:

Let's hope that Katharine holds on tonight!! No matter, we will also be buying her CD.

 

[Masterj]

The problem is the Dixie Chicks used a public platform, which was to be used to perform their music, not to talk about politics.

I certainly understand your point and know that others share your opinion. However, I find it very hard to believe that if anyone else was in their position, that they wouldn't use their celebrity to express their viewpoints. I see nothing different with this than with a celebrity discussing their favorite charity. Angelina Jolie might not come out and verbally express her politics, but her actions in supporting her many causes certainly are expressive.

Examples of whining: :boohoo:
*Radio stations won't play our songs... Waawaawaa
*Country music fans are rednecks, anyway...Waawaawaa
*Why aren't people buying our CD's? Waawaawaa
*We aren't politicians. Waawaawaa
*We received death threats...Waawaawaa

I didn't not watch this show, but would be very interested in reading the transcripts. I find it very hard to believe that their "redneck" comment isn't being taken out of context. I also do not believe that some of the other statements you listed are whining. They are stating facts. They received death threats - FACT. Radio stations won't play their songs - FACT.

That said, I find it completely LAUGHABLE that radio stations feel the need to take such a stand, yet have no problem receiving money for playing certain songs and have no problem playing songs that degrade women or even accepting money from questionable advertisers.

 

[Nova]

So the family shouldn't be hurt because some people had that opinion about their music 40 years ago? There was no need for them to even bring it up.

No, they shouldn't be hurt.

(a) It's like saying some people hated Abraham Lincoln or John F. Kennedy or Jesus Christ. It's a mark of their superiority relative to the small minds of their times. (No, I'm not equating Holly with Jesus. But no Christian is offended if you say the Pharisees hated Jesus. Given the NT view of the Pharisees, it isn't an insult.)

(b) Buddy Holly has been the subject of numerous books, many TV shows and an Academy Award-winning film (all highly laudatory, by the way). He's public domain.

No need to bring it up? Why not bring it up? (See (b) above.) The songwriter is making the point that sometimes a public figure is reviled by some in his own time, but respected at some point in the future. No doubt she hopes time will look favorably on her.

 

[Nova]

I certainly understand your point and know that others share your opinion. However, I find it very hard to believe that if anyone else was in their position, that they wouldn't use their celebrity to express their viewpoints.

It's interesting that nobody here has suggested Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels shouldn't air their views from the concert stage. And why shouldn't they?

 

[mic730]

Thats correct and in doing so they and their families put faith in the Commander in Chief to not put them in harms way based on an agenda other then what is right for America. Abusing the willingness of American Soldiers to fight and die for their Country is the biggest abuse of power a sitting President can achieve IMO.

I could not agree more Tybee.

 

[mic730]

It's interesting that nobody here has suggested Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels shouldn't air their views from the concert stage. And why shouldn't they?

That's an excellent point. I have no problem with Toby and Charlie sharing their points of view from the stage even though I don't agree most times. I own a couple Toby Keith CD's too.

 

[Marthatex]

Thats correct and in doing so they and their families put faith in the Commander in Chief to not put them in harms way based on an agenda other then what is right for America. Abusing the willingness of American Soldiers to fight and die for their Country is the biggest abuse of power a sitting President can achieve IMO.

I couldn't agree more either.

Of course, at the time the Dixie Chicks made their comments, I don't think we knew all that we know today.

And let me make it clear, he is not a Texan! He was from the Northeast anyways, or else he would have gone to The University of Texas (if he could have been accepted).

And for the record, I believe he was turned down by the University of Texas Law School; correct me if I'm wrong. A very selective Law School.

 

[Marthatex]

It's interesting that nobody here has suggested Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels shouldn't air their views from the concert stage. And why shouldn't they?

That's exactly right. It's OK if you express the "prevailing" view, the acceptable view.

Does anyone give Bruce Willis a hard time? Mel Gibson?

 

[Nova]

That's exactly right. It's OK if you express the "prevailing" view, the acceptable view.

Does anyone give Bruce Willis a hard time? Mel Gibson?

Mel Gibson, yes. He got a bit of grief for homophobic elements in Braveheart and for elements in Passion that struck some as anti-semitic. Of course, no movie theaters refused to show the films, no radio stations refused to advertise.

 

[Marthatex]

The Dixie Chicks made one mistake - George Bush is not from Texas.

Believe me; I know; I was born and raised here.

 

[Nova]

The Dixie Chicks made one mistake - George Bush is not from Texas.

Believe me; I know; I was born and raised here.

Well you can't expect any of the rest of us to claim him!

 

[Marthatex]

Calling Kinnebunkport, calling Kinnebunkport.....

come one, answer now.... (I'll just betcha the Dixie Chicks are not really from Texas either)

 

[mic730]

Well you can't expect any of the rest of us to claim him!

:laugh: That's funny stuff Nova.
I have his other brother George as a Senator - no by my choice.

I would buy a ticket to hear what Natalie has to say about George Allen!

 

[Nova]

Calling Kinnebunkport, calling Kinnebunkport.....

come one, answer now.... (I'll just betcha the Dixie Chicks are not really from Texas either)

I don't know about the other chicks, but didn't Jeana's article say Natalie is from Lubbock? I thought that was the reason for the Buddy Holly comparison.

 

[Nova]

:laugh: That's funny stuff Nova.
I have his other brother George as a Senator - no by my choice.

I would buy a ticket to hear what Natalie has to say about George Allen!

George W. Bush has a brother named George who is a senator? It must have been a long day 'cause I'm getting confused.

I thought the brothers were Gov. Jeb and Neil(?).

 

[Marthatex]

Lubbock is a WHOLE different place from the Texas I grew up in. Kind of like the Sahara desert vs. the oasis. Actually I have to say I've NEVER been to the valley, and I'm not sure I've been to the Panhandle. I have been to west Texas and some parts of East Texas.

Basically, Texas is a big place, and one part is as different as another.