The Hispanic Guy & The Couple

  • #301
Ok, in going back over old stuff with a fine tooth comb, I have a new theory on how HG fits into the picture.

Remember on Jan 6 NG show, Jack says:

JACK SMITH: ... but we have -- we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and -- radio and telephone stations there.

I got to thinking that I don't know about any RADIO interviews that TayJay did once they started making the media rounds - seemed like it was always television.

Does JS have CONTACTS with a radio station in San Antonio because of his years in the music industry? Could the HG be an employee of the radio station that JS knows - or even the son of his "contacts" at the station?

Do we know if Dec 22 or Dec 23 was the first time EJ was seen with HG? (I'm guessing not earlier, since no one knows where EJ was between the time she picked up Gabe from TS on Dec 18 and the time she checked into the hotel on Dec 22.) If it was Dec 23, then the following makes sense.

This is how I put this together. If EJ calls AU to babysit on Dec 23 sometime between Dec 19 and Dec 21 (remember, she hadn't checked into the hotel until DEC 22), where was she when she called? Had EJ already arrived in TX by Dec 19 and been staying at a shelter (like TS claimed)? And did she leave the shelter because she was told she needed to file charges against LM in order to stay there with Gabe LEGALLY, and she didn't want to do it and be found? So, she checked into the hotel on Dec 22, and had an appointment (that JS arranged) to meet HG at the radio station on Dec 23 (which is why she "dressed up" - she didn't know who she might run into at the station and wanted to look sexy).

EJ meet HG and HIS WIFE (I'll explain below) at the radio station. They agree to meet EJ at the hotel later that day to see what they can do to help her.

When EJ gets back from her appointment, she has the phone call about what do you want me to do, come back? I'm now guessing that HG had told EJ that he would help her find a job in SA if she wants to stay, but since staying in SA for the long haul was NOT part of TPS's plan (since the plan was to either keep Gabe hidden long enough to force LM to sign the adoption papers OR to just stay in Texas long enough to get LM's parental rights terminated so EJ would be free to let TPS adopt Gabe), TPS told EJ the plan wasn't working and that she should come home, but EJ didn't want to.

EJ is seen with HG, but no mention of Gabe being with her has been made. If EJ is trying to hide, I don't think she would leave Gabe in the hotel room alone in case he started crying and drew attention to her room - and the fact that he was alone. IF HG is married, his wife could have been babysitting in the hotel room with Gabe while EJ and HG went off to talk about her situation.

The couple seen in the parking lot with EJ and HG may have been a couple that HG knows and introduced to EJ to help her figure out what she wants to do with her life (since she told AU when AU asked if EJ needed her again that she didn't know since she didn't know what she wanted to do with her life - so I'm guessing that at this point EJ HAD NO PLANS to go to FL), or to meet EJ and Gabe so that they could help babysit Gabe when EJ needed to get out of the hotel, or even to talk about EJ putting Gabe up for adoption (since I don't think HG knew the whole truth or that TayJay's plan was to get Gabe for themselves all along).

TPS quickly arranged for a couple to drive to TX to pick up Gabe on Dec 26 (the day she knew was the last day that EJ had paid for at the hotel so that EJ couldn't disappear with Gabe or give him to anyone else) and bring him back. EJ went to the park for the handoff, bought her bus ticket, and took off. She texted LM about killing Gabe so that LM wouldn't start looking for a living Gabe (since she figured TayJay would be the first place they'd look for him, and at that point EJ was protecting them since she thought they had HER back).

I think she had no plans about where she was going, bought a ticket to the farthest place from SA she could get, and then found out that the hostel where she was found was cheap, so she could afford to stay there awhile while she figured out what she wanted to do. She was excited to start her new life, because, for the first time, SHE felt SHE was in charge of her life!
 
  • #302
How many witness were there in regards to HG and this couple?? On the case calendar it shows "five" different times. So are there 5 different witness's ?? Or maybe one, possible a person who worked at the hotel or possibly a security guard at the hotel ???

I believe there's one, a desk clerk.
 
  • #303
Remember on Jan 6 NG show, Jack says:

JACK SMITH: ... but we have -- we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and -- radio and telephone stations there.

I got to thinking that I don't know about any RADIO interviews that TayJay did once they started making the media rounds - seemed like it was always television

I think they *may* have been referring to WOAI, who's done a lot of coverage. Mike Board from WOAI was on Nancy Grace several times, and WOAI has had a number of articles on their website.
 
  • #304
Do we know if Dec 22 or Dec 23 was the first time EJ was seen with HG? (I'm guessing not earlier, since no one knows where EJ was between the time she picked up Gabe from TS on Dec 18 and the time she checked into the hotel on Dec 22.) If it was Dec 23, then the following makes sense.

This is how I put this together. If EJ calls AU to babysit on Dec 23 sometime between Dec 19 and Dec 21 (remember, she hadn't checked into the hotel until DEC 22), where was she when she called? Had EJ already arrived in TX by Dec 19 and been staying at a shelter (like TS claimed)? And did she leave the shelter because she was told she needed to file charges against LM in order to stay there with Gabe LEGALLY, and she didn't want to do it and be found? So, she checked into the hotel on Dec 22, and had an appointment (that JS arranged) to meet HG at the radio station on Dec 23 (which is why she "dressed up" - she didn't know who she might run into at the station and wanted to look sexy).

EJ arrived Dec 20 in SA, checked into the hotel Dec 21.

EJ was seen with the HG from the first night at hotel, I believe, Dec 21. (need to double check Ken info)

Babysitter was on Dec 21.

I don't think TPS claimed EJ stayed at a shelter. Just that she contacted a shelter and they were helping w/formula etc. Ken said EJ contacted women's organizations to get help with getting set up in San Antonio to live there.

If EJ stayed at a shelter, I'm sure LE and the PI would know that by now.
 
  • #305
I think they *may* have been referring to WOAI, who's done a lot of coverage. Mike Board from WOAI was on Nancy Grace several times, and WOAI has had a number of articles on their website.

Maybe I missed something in my searches, but I couldn't find any stories that WOAI did PRIOR to the Jan 6 NG show when JS made that statement about his contacts. That's why I assumed he meant something else by "his contacts" at the radio station. Because if WOAI hadn't covered the story prior to Jan 6, how would JS have meant them.

Just my thinking process on this.... :banghead:
 
  • #306
EJ arrived Dec 20 in SA, checked into the hotel Dec 21.

EJ was seen with the HG from the first night at hotel, I believe, Dec 21. (need to double check Ken info)

Babysitter was on Dec 21.

I don't think TPS claimed EJ stayed at a shelter. Just that she contacted a shelter and they were helping w/formula etc. Ken said EJ contacted women's organizations to get help with getting set up in San Antonio to live there.

If EJ stayed at a shelter, I'm sure LE and the PI would know that by now.

ETA: I've been going back to "square one" and rereading everything I can from the start of this to see if anything was missed along the way, knowing what we do now versus as the story was breaking.


Ok, I was trying to make the info off the Timeline Forum fit. Thanks for the dates!
 
  • #307
EJ arrived Dec 20 in SA, checked into the hotel Dec 21.

EJ was seen with the HG from the first night at hotel, I believe, Dec 21. (need to double check Ken info)

Babysitter was on Dec 21.

I don't think TPS claimed EJ stayed at a shelter. Just that she contacted a shelter and they were helping w/formula etc. Ken said EJ contacted women's organizations to get help with getting set up in San Antonio to live there.

If EJ stayed at a shelter, I'm sure LE and the PI would know that by now.


Ok, so then this theory eliminates the shelter, and switches the dates. The rest could still fit.
 
  • #308
Maybe I missed something in my searches, but I couldn't find any stories that WOAI did PRIOR to the Jan 6 NG show when JS made that statement about his contacts. That's why I assumed he meant something else by "his contacts" at the radio station. Because if WOAI hadn't covered the story prior to Jan 6, how would JS have meant them.

Just my thinking process on this.... :banghead:

I was thinking Mike had talked with them prior to the NG show. An exaggeration like Tammi saying Yami was a really good friend of hers when she had just met her. Jack saying he had 'sources' when a reporter from WOAI had just called him once maybe.

Nevertheless, even if nothing to do with the HG, I think it would be a good lead to send in - that because of that statement, TayJay could have contacts, friends, acquaintances via a radio station. In fact, I think it's a great lead.

You're on a roll with leads this week, artsy!!! Good job :)
 
  • #309
ETA: I've been going back to "square one" and rereading everything I can from the start of this to see if anything was missed along the way, knowing what we do now versus as the story was breaking.


Ok, I was trying to make the info off the Timeline Forum fit. Thanks for the dates!

The case calendar is more up to date than the timelines. I just put in a couple more links and clarifications. I've been going back the past few days to add in updated info. I can't guarantee I've got all the current info in there, but I think I have at least 95% of it.

Link to case calendar:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?c=6
 
  • #310
The case calendar is more up to date than the timelines. I just put in a couple more links and clarifications. I've been going back the past few days to add in updated info. I can't guarantee I've got all the current info in there, but I think I have at least 95% of it.

Link to case calendar:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?c=6


Thanks! I'll go there instead. I've just had a funny feeling for a couple of weeks that all the clues are here - we just have to figure them out.

That's why I'm going back to square one. And at this point in time, in going back, now some things make sense, but some things I think were "red herrings". Especially since with all the "stories" we hear from TayJay, there always seems to be at least SOME truth in what they say.
 
  • #311
Thanks! I'll go there instead. I've just had a funny feeling for a couple of weeks that all the clues are here - we just have to figure them out.

That's why I'm going back to square one. And at this point in time, in going back, now some things make sense, but some things I think were "red herrings". Especially since with all the "stories" we hear from TayJay, there always seems to be at least SOME truth in what they say.

I do that too - go back to old news stories, our original threads, etc. Interesting with what we know now. Very interesting!
 
  • #312
I was thinking Mike had talked with them prior to the NG show. An exaggeration like Tammi saying Yami was a really good friend of hers when she had just met her. Jack saying he had 'sources' when a reporter from WOAI had just called him once maybe.

Nevertheless, even if nothing to do with the HG, I think it would be a good lead to send in - that because of that statement, TayJay could have contacts, friends, acquaintances via a radio station. In fact, I think it's a great lead.

You're on a roll with leads this week, artsy!!! Good job :)

WOAI appears to me to be a news/talk station. Even with JS entertainment background, it's my belief it would not involve WOAI...now they may have a FM sister station for all I know that it's possible through his stint in the music industry that he may have some contacts. But he may indeed have contacts at WOAI...but then again, prior to this, I thought they knew no one in SA. But they are very charismatic individuals...they made have made these friends and contacts post EJ...JMO
 
  • #313
I'll say this and I will shut up, well probably not, there was no HG, there was NO couple and there was No Black SUV...now if there is a tape of such...then I will eat my words for supper...
 

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