the question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #85

[Kensie]

No wonder I missed it. I have gotten to the point where I tune Nurmi out. I have a hard time listening to him any more. Thanks for saying where it is, though, so I can go find it.

Weird but Nurmi looks like and sounds like a neighbor that I cannot stand. They could pass for twins or at least brothers. Creepy.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Been watching HLN's After Dark for past forty minutes. All the talking heads competing for camera attention and it's so cheesy. Won't watch again. I sayed up to watch, thinking it might be a good show. To the HLN talking heads: uhm, JA will be convicted of murder one. You don't need a fake jury to figure this out. You should have had this show back in january. Too late now.

 

[Allyne Smithe]

I still can't get Travis sending Jodi those awful texts on May 26 and then nine days later she was 1,000 miles away at his house having sex with him and taking the dirty pictures. Plus Jodi told Darrell at the end of May that she was taking a long road trip, and one of the places she mentioned was Arizona. I can understand that Jodi was mad enough to kill him. I even saw during one of her interviews or read a transcript somewhere in which Jodi admitted being a little upset about not getting to go to Cancun. I just can't believe that he willingly let her come into his home (or begged her to come there) and had sex with her. This just doesn't make sense. The roommates never saw her, and no one saw the rental car.

It makes perfect sense to me. He's a red-blooded male and she waved something in his face he couldn't resist.

Look at all the times he got back together with her even after she slashed his tires (twice!), slashed his date's tires. Many months after he knew she was an obsessive stalker who got into his email and Facebook accounts, slipped into his bed or hid in his closet waiting for him to come home. Drove hundreds of miles to confront a girl he was dating; sent anonymous emails. And THAT was months after they broke up in the first place, for very good reasons.

Christmas 2007 - She slashes all four of his tires. The next day he buys four new tires. She slashes those.

January 2008 - She sends him sexy texts on January 8 and January 18.

March 2008 - TA and JA visit several states together, including Texas and Oklahoma.

April 2008 - Several weeks after JA moves back to Yreka, TA sends her the following texts:

April 20, 2008 - TA texts JA: "I am at a night club right now and it helped me to come to the conclusion that you are one of the prettiest girls on the planet."

April 21, 2008 - TA texts JA: "Send me a naughty picture."

May 10, 2008 - TA texts Arias: "Why don't you have him come and f--k you in the woods, I can only imagine you are so worried about me reading. You are paranoid because you have no respect for people privacy and you dare insult me of all people. Someone you should through your actions you hate more than love by denying me a human right of privacy countless times. You have a lot of freaking nerve. We are all not like you in that aspect."

Around the same date JA records a 40-minute phone call in which they both talk dirty and talk about fantasies of things they'd do to one another.
Read it here: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/12/ijvm.01.html
Listen to it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/jodi-arias-trial-redirect_n_2808218.html#52_the-phone-sex-recording-graphic

May 26, 2008 - TA sends JA angry texts over something she has done, calls her evil and the worst thing that ever happened to him.

June 4, 2008 - While some go to great lengths to insist TA couldn't possibly have had a sexual encounter with JA that day, that she must have uploaded old photos onto his camera or taken the photos herself without TA's knowledge (viz Occam's Razor) I saw a comment the other night that, to me, hit the nail squarely on the head:

"And I am sorry for the morally superior here. You show me a guy who turns down sex from an attractive girl when she waves it in his face. Go ahead. I'll wait."

(Someone responded she knew a lot of guys that would, but they were all in Rome atm.)

Timeline above excerpted from the following article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/31/jodi-arias-timeline_n_2387245.html

 

[Plumeria5]

Anyone notice when JM was talking about the stabbings today Jodi put her hand in a fist as if she were holding a knife and raised her hand, then dropped it. I believe she suddenly realized what she was doing. Sure hope the jury caught that. jmo

I would love to watch that. Good catch! Can someone post the video of that?

 

[cubbeegirl]

Been watching HLN's After Dark for past forty minutes. All the talking heads competing for camera attention and it's so cheesy. Won't watch again. I sayed up to watch, thinking it might be a good show. To the HLN talking heads: uhm, JA will be convicted of murder one. You don't need a fake jury to figure this out. You should have had this show back in january. Too late now.

Same here... I should be soaking in a hot tub, but waited for this stupid show...

 

[Schuby]

I'm a teaching assistant at a university. I grade 150 exams and papers each month. I often catch people in cheating. Most of them come clean when I confront them, but every once in a while, there is someone who refuses, no matter how obvious it is, to confess. I can read their paper back to them and read the lines of whatever they plagiarized and the two things are identical, but they will look me in the eye and say, "no, they sound similar but they are not the same." This is Jodi.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Oh goodie.... please share once you know. Thanks

Discussion of whether TA ever bought ammunition for gun. Big reveal? Geez.
Of course not.

 

[pghbrandi]

Weird but Nurmi looks like and sounds like a neighbor that I cannot stand. They could pass for twins or at least brothers. Creepy.

That's so crazy you said that! My hubs was seasonally laid off for two weeks and watched this with me. We both said Nurmi reminded us of our neighbor!!

 

[snowcat]

Help, plz

I remember seeing a video at some point where someone put together a mash-up of previous JA interviews ( 48 hrs, IE, police and testimony) to show how they believe she actually committed the crime...in her own words . I think i saw it here. If anyone knows what I mean could you plz pm me with it because I don't want to miss it overnight my time
TIA

 

[ClosArgs]

I think he is secretly a "Juanette" lol! Tonight I got in a little bit of "trouble" with him because there is something stinky in the fridge (and it's my fault - of course). He discovered some forgotten broccoli in the produce drawer and asked me when I bought it. I told him I didn't remember...and he said, in his best Juan Martinez voice, "Are you having a problem with your memory, Ma'am" and quickly followed up with "Would it surprise you to know that Publix has NO RECORD of you ever buying any broccoli?"

:floorlaugh:

Funny! My husband is forced to listen to my trial talk and am sure listens with half an ear. Now I know he does. Tonight after I finished watching the trial I said, "Yeah, won't have to hear Jodi again until mitigation and sentencing."
He then asked who was left to testify. I told him there were 3 people left on the defenses witness list, 2 experts and Matthew McCartney.
He looked at me like I had lost my mind and asked, "Matthew McConaughey is testifying for Jodi Arias????"

 

[Plumeria5]

And this one...JM "If you thought it was unloaded, what where you going to do, throw it at him?"

 

[elementary]

good post.

i was also happy when jm said something like, so you got that gun down in the dark? i have a closet like ja's and the door that opens to the bathroom is kept close especially during showers because of the steam going in the closet. :moo:

The funny thing is, usually such an intense, traumatic experience like that would make one remember everything vividly, as if in slow motion. Of course you would remember if the light was on or not!

 

[LinasK]

:fence:

It makes perfect sense to me. He's a red-blooded male and she waved something in his face he couldn't resist.

Look at all the times he got back together with her even after she slashed his tires (twice!), slashed his date's tires. Many months after he knew she was an obsessive stalker who got into his email and Facebook accounts, slipped into his bed or hid in his closet waiting for him to come home. Drove hundreds of miles to confront a girl he was dating; sent anonymous emails. And THAT was months after they broke up in the first place, for very good reasons.

Christmas 2007 - She slashes all four of his tires. The next day he buys four new tires. She slashes those.

January 2008 - She sends him sexy texts on January 8 and January 18.

March 2008 - TA and JA visit several states together, including Texas and Oklahoma.

April 2008 - Several weeks after JA moves back to Yreka, TA sends her the following texts:

April 20, 2008 - TA texts JA: "I am at a night club right now and it helped me to come to the conclusion that you are one of the prettiest girls on the planet."

April 21, 2008 - TA texts JA: "Send me a naughty picture."

May 10, 2008 - TA texts Arias: "Why don't you have him come and f--k you in the woods, I can only imagine you are so worried about me reading. You are paranoid because you have no respect for people privacy and you dare insult me of all people. Someone you should through your actions you hate more than love by denying me a human right of privacy countless times. You have a lot of freaking nerve. We are all not like you in that aspect."

Around the same date JA records a 40-minute phone call in which they both talk dirty and talk about fantasies of things they'd do to one another.
Read it here: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/12/ijvm.01.html
Listen to it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...08218.html#52_the-phone-sex-recording-graphic

May 26, 2008 - TA sends JA angry texts over something she has done, calls her evil and the worst thing that ever happened to him.

June 4, 2008 - While some go to great lengths to insist TA couldn't possibly have had a sexual encounter with JA that day, that she must have uploaded old photos onto his camera or taken the photos herself without TA's knowledge (viz Occam's Razor) I saw a comment the other night that, to me, hit the nail squarely on the head:

"And I am sorry for the morally superior here. You show me a guy who turns down sex from an attractive girl when she waves it in his face. Go ahead. I'll wait."

Timeline above excerpted from the following article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/31/jodi-arias-timeline_n_2387245.html

Or... she arrives unannounced at 4a.m., possibly hacking his computer while he's asleep and stages the photos of herself, the KY is a prop., and he is sleepy in the photo of him pre-shower. There is no proof that he knew she was coming, only the word of an admitted liar, and no proof they had sex.

 

[dtzblnd]

A little off topic, sorry, but I know some of y'all are Mormon and won't mind my asking. It seems like JA was baptized awfully quick after "discovering" the church...is that normal? It just seems like converting to a religion should take more than six weeks...?? TIA!!!

 

[robc]

Oh goodie.... please share once you know. Thanks

waste of time... vinnie pulled the top off of a box and revealed a holster and a box of ammo... :O

 

[Linda7NJ]

Are there any other photos taken & deleted on June 4th that we have not seen?


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[Kensie]

That's so crazy you said that! My hubs was seasonally laid off for two weeks and watched this with me. We both said Nurmi reminded us of our neighbor!!

Must be triplets. I am in AL. Gross, 3 of them walking around.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

I was laughing at Jodi and her use (and misuse) of "big words" and unnecessary descriptions. She makes me think of Oswald, the prison inmate on In Living Color who always talks in ridiculously big words, none of which he understands, and most of which he mixes up in a hodgepodge of existing words. It got me to thinking about her story. Here it is, in a nutshell, in Jodi-Speak, followed by translations:

Jodi:
I would proclaim in the affirmative that it is within the realm of possibility that I may have assisted the individual with the appellation of Travis Alexander to embark upon his glorious journey from the terrestrial world into the celestrial world, with the caveat that he may have journeyed to the subterrestrial world; I wouldn't be privy to that informational data of the post-terrestrial sphere of existence.
(Translation: Yes, I killed Travis Alexander.)

The person of whom you are speaking was not inclined to indulge me (that is to say, mySELF) with tender, considerational behavior.
(Translation: He was mean to me.)

The decedent bestowed upon me the appellation of Tri-Orificed Astonishmentalitation.
(Translation: He called me a 3-hole wonder.)

The male subject of our discussion and I engaged in carnal relations, which is to say, copulation of the intercoursal, oral, and buttal variety.
(Translation: We had sex.)

Our sexual activity involved bondage of the upholstery cord loose wrist noosal variety intended to bind the articulation between the forearm and the hand.
(Translation: He tied me up.)

The upholstery cord loose wrist noosal raw material was first prepared by severing it with a keen-edged instrument of cutlery.
(Translation: He cut the rope with a knife.)

I initiated a series of digital photo-opticular events via the use of a mechanical shutterbox-like piece of equipment which utilizes light and opticalative states of being to produce lifelike images to be viewed and/or retrieved at a later point in time. He was moist and not garbed in traditional textiles gathered together by twisted filaments in the shape of a human body.
(Translation: I took photos of him in the shower. He was wet and naked.)

He lifted my body and hurled it to the floor with great force and in a violent manner whereupon I landed upon my spine.
(Translation: He body-slammed me.)

I extricated myself from his attempted pintintinilation and scurried down the corridor betwixt the bathing quarters and the room designed to accommodate the suspension of voluntary bodily functions and the natural suspension, complete or partial, of consciousness, whereupon I pivoted to the right and entered the enclosed recess typically used to store apparel, footwear and other miscellaneous items.
(Translation: I ran through the hallway and into the closet.)

I placed the door into a position that would render an intruder temporarily (for a split-second) helpless to enter the space within which I was located.
(Translation: I shut the door.)

I leaped ever skyward, briefly placing an appendage of the metacarpal variety onto the edge of a thin slab of wood fixed horizontally to a frame (for supporting objects) in order to gain height. I then affixed my hands upon a weapon that would be capable of propelling metal projectiles with great force and brought the weapon back with me when I plummeted back to the lower gravitational limit, landing in a nimble manner on the afforementioned appendages of the metacarpal variety. The aforementioned weapon may or may not have previously been encased in a sheathlike carrying pouch; said pouch was not surrounding the firearm at that moment in the space-time continuum.
(Translation: I jumped up and grabbed a gun that may or may not have previously been in a holster.)

The weapon may or may not have been occupying space within a rectangular receptacle consisting of corrugated cardboard.
(Translation: The gun may or may not have been in a box.)

I then moved my legs in a rapid, rhythmic manner in order to propel me out the alternate doorway and back into the bathing quarters; the room is also used to collect and dispose of human excrement and liquid bodily wastes.
(Translation: I ran into the bathroom; that's the room where people also pee and poop, just in case the jury didn't already know the definition of "bathroom".)

The subject then proceeded to propel himself toward me in an aggressive manner that would be best described as that of a defensive player in American or Canadian football who is positioned just behind the line of scrimmage. He was uttering derogatory epithets and threatening to terminate my essential natural processes.
(Translation: Travis lunged at me like a linebacker and said "f*****g kill you, b***h!".)

The weapon within my bent digits (one more bent than the others) discharged just as his body impacted my corporeal vessel and sent us both hurtling to the floor.
(Translation: The gun went off just before he knocked me off my feet.)

I extricated my corpus from his own maniacal and heavily-weighted corporeal instrument.
(Translation: I was partially under him, but managed to get out from under him. )

The events that thereafter occurred cannot be recalled in any reliable fashion by the organ residing within my cranium, although the events have a quality that may or may not be described as a mixture consisting of liquid particles dispersed in a gaseous medium.
(Translation: I dont remember. I was in a fog.)

I DO recall the audio effect of the keen-edged piece of cutlery landing upon the tiled lower enclosing surface upon which one walks.
(Translation: I remember the knife clattering on the floor.)

When I regained my memory and cognition, I was driving within an arid, barren wasteland.
(Translation: I came to in the desert.)

My lowest appendages of a metacarpal variety were no longer encased in its customary footwear, nor was any footwear apparent within the vehicle.
(Translation: I was barefoot.)

I performed an ablution to remove debris and excess human vascular system fluid with the usage of clear fluid which was purchased in bulk from a merchant of miscellaneous items that may only be exchanged for monetary tokens from a member of a private society.
(Translation: I washed the blood off with water from Costco.)

I hurled the firearm used to commit a possible homicidal act into the arid, barren wasteland.
(Translation: I threw the damn gun into the desert.)

I then proceeded to direct my rented vehicle to another state within the Northern Hemisphere, specifically within the United States ) for the purposes of assembling with another member of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, with whom I had been in electronic and vocal communication, but had not laid eyes upon in the corporeal sense.
(Translation: I drove to Utah to meet a potential sucke--ummm--vict--ummm matrimonial life partner in person.)

We pressed our cavities containing the structures used in mastication together, may or may not have comingled our tongual muscles, and ground our genitals together in a rhythmic manner.
(Translation: We hung out.)

When next I endeavored to operate the vehicle of the Budget clan, I was stopped by a member of the local regulatory force that is employed to maintain order in a civilized society. I was informed that my placard which proclaims the legal status of the vehicle's permission to be upon a public roadway was positioned with the upper part undermost.
(Translation: I was stopped for driving with an upside-down license plate.)

Several hours later my companion and I once again engaged in light carnal activity, but we did not proceed to the point of penile/vaginal penetration, nor did we remove our lower, textured coverings.
(Translation: We hung out some more.)

I departed from my companion's abode in the Beehive State, destined for my own abode in the far northern extreme of the state named for it's resemblance to a hot Spanish oven in a municipality so-named when a stretched BAKERY sign was inadvertently read backwards and was missing the letter B. I did not, at any time, enter the city upon a dessicated lake consisting of sodium crystals.
(Translation: I left and never, ever, ever was in Salt Lake City.)

I almost peed my pants. :floorlaugh: :laughcry:

 

[Sulamith]

I agree with you that Mormonism isn't on trial, but Jodi's defense team introduced it to show what a bad Mormon Travis was, when in reality that was Jodi's hold over him. Sex and blackmail within his church.

IMO, JA did not have any kind of hold over TA. I do not think it was possible to blackmail TA. Not how the Mormon church is IMO.

 

[minor4th]

Are y'all watching HLN? Their guilty/not guilty poll was 97% think she's guilty ...