the question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #85

[Hopeful One]

I have a free standing shelving unit from Ikea that has these resting shelves. Not only would there be no possible way they could have held her weight, but she insists she only put her one foot on the shelf at the very edge. With resting shelves, you can't even put the slightest weight on the edge or the back end of the shelf flips up... made that mistake myself with some cd's I put too close to the front edge without having something heavy closer to the back edge as a counterweight.

As for her being in her socks, I attribute that to her not wanting to leave bloody shoe prints knowing from other crime stories that people can be tracked and identified through the print of their shoes. As I recall, there WAS a bloody shoe print in the hall from her, and I think she took off her shoes when she realized she was stomping through all that blood. I'm sure her shoes got "lost" along with the gun and other things she needed to get rid of.

No question at all that she was lucid and thinking with everything she did after she killed him in trying to mask or get rid of evidence, and there's no way she did all that in any "fog". As someone else mentioned a day or two ago here, if she'd been found wandering in the street covered in blood I could believe she had "fognesia".

BBM

You know you've been around this case too long when you see Ikea but read "Yreka". :sigh:

 

[BritsKate]

Huggs

I hope you never stop speaking out. My message would be for the abused to seek seek seek help.

My relationship was inter-racial and once my parents found out they disowned me. I was totally isolated from everyone and when I finally left him I had just gotten out of the Marines and I knew noone where we were living except his family. I lived out of my car for awhile, cleaning up in a gas station bathroom before going to work. At the time he was trying to kill me... and he actually did say to me "if I can't have you nobody will" (they do say this!) he was involved with another woman. It is because of that woman, the court and my finally being able to move away that I think I am alive today.

Anyway, I packed all of those experiences away in a box in my head and went on with life as best I could. I had no insurance, no money, nobody. I worked on a relationship with my family and got my life back together. I have suffered from self hatred, low self-esteem, severe depression, attempted suicide twice and been treated for many years with meds and I am finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel. So many wasted years.

So my important message is to please seek treatment no matter how mild the abuse may seem, please...everyone and anyone!

:blowkiss:

I couldn't agree more. It's people like you, and OBE, and Lotus, and the dozens of other survivors that have stepped forward since this trial started that lend me strength on my 'bad' days. With this trial stirring up so much yuck, there've been a few. I'd personally be lost without you guys!

Much love and gratitude,
Kate

 

[katiewonders]

Just caught up on last nights posts and decided to look for the actual autopsy photos, having not previously seen them.

:anguish: I feel absolutely sick, disgusted and I'm in complete and utter shock that ANYONE can look at those pics (especially of his back, head and slashed throat up close) and even think of considering that as self defense. Has the jury saw these actual photos? If so, I'm 100% convinced they will find her guilty.

I won't be able to eat today, that's how sick I feel.

I know how you feel, NashBridges2, they made me very sick, too. I once watched a beheading of a journalist online because my teenage son had and I felt I needed to watch it in case he wanted to talk about it. I could not eat for a week.

 

[grammieto5]

Murder 1 is being charged two ways... premed and also during the commission of a felony/ burglary.

Hey popsicle, Good Morning does the burglary apply in this case or is it just the premed? Thanks

 

[Pink Panther]

Was there any mention yesterday of the Walmart and Tesoro receipts?

 

[Nosey Parker]

Hopefully none!! That's a big no-no!!!

What makes you think that? The jury members are banned from any media viewing or discussing the case with anyone. To go in their closet and experiment with shelving is none of the above, IMO.

 

[Sustained]

For someone who a lot of people claim is very bright, Arias isn't a very intelligent criminal ... here's the start of a laundry list of her "mistakes" ,,,,

1) Keeping gas receipts indicating a 3rd gas can and charging some gas on a credit card and paying cash for the rest
2) Stealing a family gun to kill Travis
3) Dyeing her hair on the way to Mesa
4) Throwing the camera in the wash with the SD card inside
5) Leaving bloody palm and fingerprints at the scene
6) Turning down a white car in favor of a red one
7) Getting MM to forge letters indicating pedophilia
8) Telling LaViolette that Travis was looking at child on the computer
9) Recording Travis on a sex tape
10) Taking pictures of a bloody finger injured at work, but none of the "injuries" supposedly inflicted by Travis

Please add to the list ...

 

[NashBridges2]

Was there any mention yesterday of the Walmart and Tesoro receipts?

Nope, Juan has that info tucked away in his back pocket for his rebuttal case!!

 

[leebee52]

For someone who a lot of people claim is very bright, Arias isn't a very intelligent criminal ... here's the start of a laundry list of her "mistakes" ,,,,

1) Keeping gas receipts indicating a 3rd gas can
2) Using a family gun to kill Travis
3) Dying her hair on the way to Mesa
4) Throwing the camera in the wash with the SD card inside
5) Leaving bloody palm and fingerprints at the scene
6) Turning down a white car in favor of a red one
7) Getting MM to forge letters indicating pedophilia
8) Telling LaViolette that Travis was looking at child on the computer
9) Recording Travis on a sex tape
10) Taking pictures of a bloody finger but none of the "injuries" supposedly inflicted by Travis

Please add to the list ...

My feeling on that is that she was following some crime blog kind of thing, movie, book or whatever thinking it was brilliant.

 

[katiewonders]

What makes you think that? The jury members are banned from any media viewing or discussing the case with anyone. To go in their closet and experiment with shelving is none of the above, IMO.

They are not allowed to do any "investigating" on their own; they are to rely solely on the evidence in the case: testimony, exhibits, any "field trips" allowed by a judge.

edited to apologize, you asked Hopeful One and I answered - I didn't realize, sorry.

 

[rhondavous]

Nope. Juan Martinez has a mind like a steel trap. He only got one thing wrong in the whole trial about what jodi said during testimony. He knows full well what he has said and jodi's responses.

He has the court reporter read back the questions to be exact and show that jodi is playing games. I believe that technique is evident to most people and especially to the jury, when in context.

Will JM ever share the actual measurements of the shelves in the closet with the jury?

Maybe if Jodi hadn't been a high school dropout she might have gotten a college scholarship to be on the track team as a high jumper.

 

[Pink Panther]

Nope, Juan has that info tucked away in his back pocket for his rebuttal case!!

Thanks for answering!

 

[KMouse]

She would have shown up in SLC with his clothes on unless she changed on the way. That's possible, but I think she had a change of clothes in the house. JMO

I think she had her murder bag with her in the house the whole time. She wasn't there for very long and wouldn't have needed to bring much in with her. If she did indeed arrive at 0400 then she was only in that house for about 14 hours total. Once inside I doubt she was going to take a chance being seen and make trips to the car. She mahy have told Travis she was leaving and he headed into the shower. We know what she is like....doggie door....closet hiding...creeper.

She could have showered over Travis' body and then put on socks/shoes to get out of the messy bathroom. Then dressed in clean clothes. Go throw laundry in. Clean from the washer to the exit. Have bloody clothes packed and murder weapons packed in the backpack. Leave.

Dispose of backpack, shoes/socks, floor mats, gun, knife along the way.

 

[popsicle]

well I tend to agree with you but...let's say it cannot be proven she brought the murder weapon with her, which it cannot be if it's the knife. Then we have a garden variety knife fight. The gun did not kill him and was used last, after he was dead, or maybe as a way to put him out of his suffering when he was near death.

So far, this is the State's case, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why because that is not murder one.

How the heck is it a garden variety knife fight if only one person has a knife? wtf

 

[leebee52]

Maybe if Jodi hadn't been a high school dropout she might have gotten a college scholarship to be on the track team as a high jumper.

Her description of the shelf dance sounded like twinkle toes ballet. That or one of her fabulous "yoga" moves.

 

[Novice Seeker]

Was there any mention yesterday of the Walmart and Tesoro receipts?

No but believe there was a long side bar discussion about the motion to compel that was filed with the court on Tuesday.

 

[Elley Mae]

Was there any mention yesterday of the Walmart and Tesoro receipts?

I watched it this am in 4 parts on youtube and I don't remember that being brought up.

 

[Hopeful One]

Just caught up on last nights posts and decided to look for the actual autopsy photos, having not previously seen them.

:anguish: I feel absolutely sick, disgusted and I'm in complete and utter shock that ANYONE can look at those pics (especially of his back, head and slashed throat up close) and even think of considering that as self defense. Has the jury saw these actual photos? If so, I'm 100% convinced they will find her guilty.

I won't be able to eat today, that's how sick I feel.

Isn't it horrifying??

I've been having that feeling like when something terrible happens and you wake up in the morning, and for a few seconds, you forgot it happened. But then reality hits you like a sledgehammer and this horrible feeling takes over... it's been happening every day and it feels like a black cloud following me around.

Those pictures cannot be unseen. What she did cannot be undone. And she needs to pay for that.

 

[lisalei321]

I have to wonder how many jurors went home yesterday and carried out the same experiment on their 'peg' shelving! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

I would have :blushing:

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[BritsKate]

For someone who a lot of people claim is very bright, Arias isn't a very intelligent criminal ... here's the start of a laundry list of her "mistakes" ,,,,

1) Keeping gas receipts indicating a 3rd gas can and charging some gas on a credit card and paying cash for the rest
2) Stealing a family gun to kill Travis
3) Dyeing her hair on the way to Mesa
4) Throwing the camera in the wash with the SD card inside
5) Leaving bloody palm and fingerprints at the scene
6) Turning down a white car in favor of a red one
7) Getting MM to forge letters indicating pedophilia
8) Telling LaViolette that Travis was looking at child on the computer
9) Recording Travis on a sex tape
10) Taking pictures of a bloody finger injured at work, but none of the "injuries" supposedly inflicted by Travis

Please add to the list ...

You put together a much better list than I did to show the manipulative, dirt-dredging wherewithall of a psychopath! :floorlaugh:

She is just so damned calculating.