The State v. Jodi Arias: break in trial until 28 January 2013 #17 *ADULT CONTENT*

[atthelake]

I was away most of the day today, and thank you soooooooooooooo much to those that transcribe for us, to be put also in the long term thread! We had a couple of folks that did that for the FCA trial, and di it in bold green I remember so folks could scan just to see that vs. the fast moving thread which was faster even than here! Much faster!

Anyway, hats off to those that transcribe daily!

 

[polleypockets]

ok i am confused - seriously what is their defense they are trying for??? it just sounds like a couple that bickered some times? how does that become self defense because of abuse?? at the most it just sounds like he didn't talk about the fact they were sleeping together?

 

[norest4thewicked]

How many more of these horrible days do we all have to go through? There has not been ONE single incident of Travis being abusive to Jodi with all of the defense witnesses combined. The defense team is a joke!

 

[seattlechiquita]

Dudes and dudettes, this was a boring trial day. PFFFT.

 

[BritsKate]

KMouse, Wenwe have you been around for the last three hours or so?

If so I'll just search the thread for your posts, I'm curious to see what questions the jury had for Lisa.

Oh Lotus you will be thrilled when you see it. A thing of beauty. From my admittedly poor memory:
Were you abused?
Were you scared of Travis?
What do you consider cheating?
Would you call Jodi a stalker?
Did he call you names?

 

[Curious Me]

Did you see Jodi react to her attorney when he said "Travis put her in a compartment". I don't think that pleased her too much.

Sensitive chick isn't she!

:seeya: Travis had boundaries, as well as compartments. We all do. Jodi resented it, for sure, as seen in her actions. So far, I'd say the jurors got her number now.

Loved the jurors questions today!

 

[shiloh42]

The reason hearsay is not allowed as evidence is because hearsay statements are unreliable (people lie when they aren't under oath, and people make self-serving statements).

The many exceptions to hearsay are mostly based on the inherent reliability of certain types of out-of-court statements. For example, a statement made against one's own interest (e.g., Abe told me he killed Bob would likely not be said by Abe unless it were true); statements made in relation to a medical diagnosis; statements contained in certain official recorded documents; "excited utterances" --such as, "Ouch, a truck just ran over my leg"; and there are other exceptions that I'm sure no one is too interested in hearing about lol

Again, not an attorney, but I'm aware of the "excited utterance' - which i've heard being defined as something said in the heat of a moment without forethought which could then mean an assumption of truth, becuase you have to decide to lie.... I think the other is dying words, but I'm not sure of that. Any attorney?

 

[Linda7NJ]

How many more of these horrible days do we all have to go through? There has not been ONE single incident of Travis being abusive to Jodi with all of the defense witnesses combined. The defense team is a joke!

I think They're doing the very best they can with what they have to work with, Jodi!

 

[epiphany]

Thank you.

I have stayed away from this thread for a few days now because I felt my anger and blood pressure rising over all of the incessant " shaming" and critiquing of her "lady parts".

Jeebus. We have a whole generation of young girls who think they need to be ashamed of the way their bodies look, ashamed of they way they feel about desiring sex, and that weighing more than 100 lbs. is a fate worse than death. 16 year olds begging for plastic surgery because they read garbage like that.

Jodi Arias is a vile murderer. Maybe calling her ugly, saying she has cellulite, dark labia and a fat, nasty nose makes some folks feel better. IDK. It seems irrelevant to me.

And calling her a nasty because she has sex (with men who nobody has labeled "" or "") has ZERO to do with the heinous act she committed on Travis.

I have a daughter as do many of you. Someone might call her fat. Or say her hair is ugly. Or that her nose is wonky or she has cankles. Or when she is older and likes a boy and they kiss, some jealous girl might call her a .

And the posts I am reading here will certainly help to perpetuate the double standards and terrible self-esteem that so many young women battle these days. That makes me cry for not just my daughter , but for all the young girls who get to be held to this unattainable standard some people have set.

I could care less about Jodi. But I do care about what we say to one another as women and sisters when we exempt men from any wrongdoing and instead point at other women and call "".

We ought to be discussing the awful thing Jodi did to Travis. Not making up nicknames for her genitalia or " shaming" her for doing the EXACT same things in bed that the victim did!

Sorry for the OT and the rant. And I will go back to lurking.

Oh -
And MOO

Well stated and thank you, FrayedKnot.

 

[Anita Richman]

So thank you Arizona! :great:

I'll speak for the rest of the state and say,
YOU'RE VERY WELCOME! It's the least we could do. :blowkiss:

 

[BritsKate]

Again, not an attorney, but I'm aware of the "excited utterance' - which i've heard being defined as something said in the heat of a moment without forethought which could then mean an assumption of truth, becuase you have to decide to lie.... I think the other is dying words, but I'm not sure of that. Any attorney?

Minor 4th is a verified attorney.

 

[polleypockets]

I think They're doing the very best they can with what they have to work with, Jodi!

but after a day of testimony like this - do you see any way she can't take the stand?

 

[norest4thewicked]

I think They're doing the very best they can with what they have to work with, Jodi!

Oh, I agree. But, if this is the best they have, they don't have a prayer in Hell.

 

[LostOldUserName]

Again, not an attorney, but I'm aware of the "excited utterance' - which i've heard being defined as something said in the heat of a moment without forethought which could then mean an assumption of truth, becuase you have to decide to lie.... I think the other is dying words, but I'm not sure of that. Any attorney?

Not an attorney but yes deathbed is also one, at least in my state.

 

[Linda7NJ]

but after a day of testimony like this - do you see any way she can't take the stand?

No, she needs to spin her web and pray she can catch one fly!

 

[LyndyLoo]

I think They're doing the very best they can with what they have to work with, Jodi!

AND so ar they havent shown ONE (1) iotta of evidence of their claim..ABUSE..Sorry hurt feeling wont excuse BUTCHERING!!!:jail:

 

[Tricksy]

Just a side note since this testimony is so pointless. My sweet, mellow, surfer boy-of-a-nephew who grew up in Newport was sent to Novosibirsk, Siberia on his Mission! This was quite a shock to my family and when my Granny said that that was where he was being sent I thought she was kidding. He said that vodka was cheaper than water there.

I have relatives very near to Siberia. In fact a lot of the family (on my father's side) lived in Siberia for a while.

When I went over to one of the villages in 1993 the only source of water was a tap in the yard. It was easier to brush our teeth with vodka! (yes I know that says a lot about me! ;-)

The village shop had very little food in it, a few pickled vegetables, some bottled water and a shed load of vodka. It was very cheap. I can assure you. It also keeps out the cold.

 

[lil_buddy]

Thank you.

I have stayed away from this thread for a few days now because I felt my anger and blood pressure rising over all of the incessant " shaming" and critiquing of her "lady parts".

Jeebus. We have a whole generation of young girls who think they need to be ashamed of the way their bodies look, ashamed of they way they feel about desiring sex, and that weighing more than 100 lbs. is a fate worse than death. 16 year olds begging for plastic surgery because they read garbage like that.

Jodi Arias is a vile murderer. Maybe calling her ugly, saying she has cellulite, dark labia and a fat, nasty nose makes some folks feel better. IDK. It seems irrelevant to me.

And calling her a nasty because she has sex (with men who nobody has labeled "" or "") has ZERO to do with the heinous act she committed on Travis.

I have a daughter as do many of you. Someone might call her fat. Or say her hair is ugly. Or that her nose is wonky or she has cankles. Or when she is older and likes a boy and they kiss, some jealous girl might call her a .

And the posts I am reading here will certainly help to perpetuate the double standards and terrible self-esteem that so many young women battle these days. That makes me cry for not just my daughter , but for all the young girls who get to be held to this unattainable standard some people have set.

I could care less about Jodi. But I do care about what we say to one another as women and sisters when we exempt men from any wrongdoing and instead point at other women and call "".

We ought to be discussing the awful thing Jodi did to Travis. Not making up nicknames for her genitalia or " shaming" her for doing the EXACT same things in bed that the victim did!

Sorry for the OT and the rant. And I will go back to lurking.

Oh -
And MOO

I completely agree with this. It really makes me sad that women especially would talk like this.

I wonder if the shaming and disparaging comments about God given physical features doesn't help to contribute the development of the kind of psychological problems that someone like Arias has.

I wish you would comment more often, FrayedKnot.

 

[FrayedKnot]

She sounds like a typical self-centered, dramatic teen girl. Maybe she was a bit too immature for TA.

So now we are bashing LISA?

Travis cheats on her and disrespects her requests to stop groping her and talking about sex.

But SHE'S the problem. Mmkay.

Unreal.

Now really going back to lurking. Sorry.

 

[hindsight2020]

Oh Lotus you will be thrilled when you see it. A thing of beauty. From my admittedly poor memory:
Were you abused?
Were you scared of Travis?
What do you consider cheating?
Would you call Jodi a stalker?
Did he call you names?

The best testimony of thee day, including Juror Questions!!! Yay