Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #4

[doobiedoo52]

I highly doubt anyone will ever be arrested for obstruction of justice. If the A's have gotten by with it, so will this crew.

 

[curvecuti]

I highly doubt anyone will ever be arrested for obstruction of justice. If the A's have gotten by with it, so will this crew.

No, they have no need to arrest the Anthony's on obstruction charges. In that case they have the perp in jail awaiting trial completion. PCSO does not even have a POI, as far as anyone knows. There has been nothing new in 10 months. An obstruction charge would at least be a beginning in this case. OR as I said in the previous post, perhaps Sheriff Hardy is in over his head and inept, IDK.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I highly doubt anyone will ever be arrested for obstruction of justice. If the A's have gotten by with it, so will this crew.

The Anthony's day is coming doobie, just may be after KC's trial.
While I see many of the same traits for the time being (and for my own sanity) I'm hoping that I have been wrong about TN & GGMS....we shall see..:croc: ..all jmo..

 

[Pondering Mind]

No, they have no need to arrest the Anthony's on obstruction charges. In that case they have the perp in jail awaiting trial completion. PCSO does not even have a POI, as far as anyone knows. There has been nothing new in 10 months. An obstruction charge would at least be a beginning in this case. OR as I said in the previous post, perhaps Sheriff Hardy is in over his head and inept, IDK.

bbm~
are you serious? :waitasec:

 

[Whisperer]

The Anthonys..........................grrrrrrrrrr

..............the thought of them gives me an anxiety attack.

 

[Whisperer]

I did not know it is against the law to lie to LE as some have suggested. It is a given that criminals lie to police all the time. I would be obstruction charges are a defense attorney's dream charge.

I notice the A's have kept one around the entire time to protect them. Another guilty set of grandparents. Grandparents who have known their grandchild had died from the very beginning. Definitely Obstrucition going on in that case. Prosecution not willing to go through the hassle of a trial for them and looking bad to the media and the general public. The public would side with them and blast the State Attorney.

Same with rc and his family. They get the sympathy from people who do not follow the case closely. Public opinion would work against the State. That is one reason they never pressed on about the statutory rape charges. RC gets a pass..he just wasn't so sure at the time and had to cover himself just in case. Keeping everything in perspective, the Cummings are a very litigious group.

 

[twall]

I did not know it is against the law to lie to LE as some have suggested. It is a given that criminals lie to police all the time. I would be obstruction charges are a defense attorney's dream charge.

I notice the A's have kept one around the entire time to protect them. Another guilty set of grandparents. Grandparents who have known their grandchild had died from the very beginning

It's only against the law if you are under oath or sign a sworn statement.
Not too sure about lying to a federal agent during interrogation-which the A's clearly did.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

Welcome, and thank you for posting your theory. I suspect an event happened before Ron went to work on Monday. Misty said her, Ronald and Jr hung out Monday at home and rested. According to Misty, Ronald picked up his daughter at the bus stop and after he dropped her off, he left for work.

Misty also said on one of the tests arranged by Tim Miller that a service man came by unexpectedly around 5:30 pm. and she called Ronald and he spoke to the service man over the phone. LE unfortunately haven't TMK released any information confirming the AC man saw HaLeigh so we are at a dead end and unable to confirm a confrontation or accident occurred before Ron went to work and HaLeigh was home that evening. AS, HaLeigh's paternal gmma said she saw HaLeigh eating supper on the porch around 7 pm.

Based on the following it was 5 p.m. when the A/C man arrived but your absolutely right, LE hasn't stated anything other than that. Going by their (PCSO) unofficial timeline, the hours between 8 p.m. - 3 a.m. seem to be the hours in question and if that's the case than I'm ASSUMING (take it for what it's worth-you know what they say about ASSuming something) that they confirmed Haleigh's presence, at least up until 8 p.m...


http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

(BBM)

Merchant confirmed that and air conditioning repairman did visit the home at 5p.m. on Feb. 9, 2009, the day before Haleigh's disappearance, but police are confident he was not involved.

Inv. Merchant said he was questioned within an hour of the disappearance and provided a solid alibi.

 

[Emeralgem]

(BBM)


Based on the following it was 5 p.m. when the A/C man arrived but your absolutely right, LE hasn't stated anything other than that. Going by their (PCSO) unofficial timeline, the hours between 8 p.m. - 3 a.m. seem to be the hours in question and if that's the case than I'm ASSUMING (take it for what it's worth-you know what they say about ASSuming something) that they confirmed Haleigh's presence, at least up until 8 p.m...


http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

(BBM)

Merchant confirmed that and air conditioning repairman did visit the home at 5p.m. on Feb. 9, 2009, the day before Haleigh's disappearance, but police are confident he was not involved.

Inv. Merchant said he was questioned within an hour of the disappearance and provided a solid alibi.

Don't know IF I believe Haleigh was seen alive and well before 8:00pm and don't know IF I believe what Merchant has to say either...

Didn't we hear not too long ago that the AC man had been or was in someway related to someone in Ron C's family?

 

[Dee10]

(BBM)


Based on the following it was 5 p.m. when the A/C man arrived but your absolutely right, LE hasn't stated anything other than that. Going by their (PCSO) unofficial timeline, the hours between 8 p.m. - 3 a.m. seem to be the hours in question and if that's the case than I'm ASSUMING (take it for what it's worth-you know what they say about ASSuming something) that they confirmed Haleigh's presence, at least up until 8 p.m...


http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

(BBM)

Merchant confirmed that and air conditioning repairman did visit the home at 5p.m. on Feb. 9, 2009, the day before Haleigh's disappearance, but police are confident he was not involved.

Inv. Merchant said he was questioned within an hour of the disappearance and provided a solid alibi.

I totally believe he was there, but DID he actually pay attention to the kids and did he actually see Haleigh? He has never been interviewed so we don't know. Greenwood in that last video interview (can't remember who, but was with a woman), the one where he either screwed up...or provided new information, mentioned the timeline as being 7:00 for when Haleigh was last seen. This is the one where he mention Teresa instead of Annette being the last one to see Haleigh. He also said the call came in at 2:03 (I believe). That whole interview was odd. What was the purpose??? If this was indeed wrong information, God help us.

 

[Skully]

Bern, what we know about Misty's story and what LE knows is obviously 2 different things. If she lied about picking Haleigh up at the bus stop, she did pick her up and Ron lied and didn't pick her up, and LE knew this, or had a credible witness such as the bus driver, there is no doubt in my mind, one or both of them would be in jail under an obstruction charge. The bottom line about Misty is LE apparently can not prove that she has lied, if they could she would be arrested. I would think who picked her up at the bus stop would be something LE could easily figure out, through the bus driver.

Or perhaps the new Sheriff is inept, and some other agency needs to take the case over, IDK.

Well LE has said her story doesn't support the evidence found outside the MH and she is inconsistent in her stories and she is the key, so when does it become obstruction? When is it a lie?

 

[Pondering Mind]

The Anthonys..........................grrrrrrrrrr

..............the thought of them gives me an anxiety attack.

They personify the very definition of obstruction imo...but that's not just off topic, that's a totally different forum, lol.

eta~ I heard that Websters dictionary was thinking of putting their pic under the def. "obstruction"~ j/k j/k...

 

[Skully]

If you really want to go back to the beginning of that day, you could go to when Haleigh got up that morning and wanted a different outfit. In my time line in the stickies I lay out the time it took from breakfast to GGS to school that day. All total this was one long morning, and a frustrated one at that. So when Misty mentions that Haleigh was doing wheelies on her bike and she looked fine, maybe something happened that morning before school. Maybe she didn't look so good by let's say 6:30 while she was dinning outside on the porch. IDK. But the whole story of that day is a lie IMO. I know LE has it figured out, they just need one piece to get charges, I wish to God it would come soon. Just blowing it off here..... night all.:banghead:

 

[Pondering Mind]

Well LE has said her story doesn't support the evidence found outside the MH and she is inconsistent in her stories and she is the key, so when does it become obstruction? When is it a lie?

Bern, I really believe they could have arrested them for obstruction if they wanted, but why? Then they would lawyer up, well he!! Ron already has a lawyer, does Misty still? Obviously (at least IMO) LE doesn't want to tip their hand at this point and I don't think Ron or Misty would likely say a word anyway and I believe that LE knows that. But in charging them (either or both) LE would have to disclose much of what they do know and are not about to do that. ... jmo anyway..


I'm really afraid that Ron and Misty figure at this point (and prolly from the beginning, taking cues from Caylee's case) that as long as they don't talk or say anymore and HaLeigh is never found then they are home free. That in turn makes me wonder where in the world HaLeigh could be to make them feel that confident? That SCARES me..

 

[kiki the parrot]

nms/em, it's correct that we have never heard any confirmation from LE that AC ever saw Haleigh while at the home that day; also, while a relative of RC worked at Arctic it's never been confirmed for certain whether it was he who serviced the home on that particular occasion. IMO there must be an important reason LE has never released this info and thus the reason my timeline backs up to or begins w the bus stop, shortly after 3:20 pm.

arrot:

 

[Whisperer]

After Debs showing us the school record, anything is possible, isn't it? We know for sure this is not a missing abducted child, if so, LE would have tipped their hand to help find the perp, instead LE is not allowing any word out at all which tells me this is homemade.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I addressed attendance record (on other thread I think) and there are also the parents, and bus driver, who would all have to collectively be lying, and/or "confused" (?) Nah, I may be wrong but as of this point I believe she went to school--late--that day which admittedly began even as an especially stressful day. But the devil is in the details, and IMO the many stories we've heard surrounding the events of what should have been an ordinary day--from Misty returning (early that am), to Haleigh spilling on her shirt, to RC reportedly driving erratically, to driving for another outfit, to Misty walking her to class, to confusion re whether MC (or RC) picked her up, to more confusion re who stopped by Green La. and when... none of it is coincidence, they are ALL neon flashing signs, HUGE red flags. Why so much hesitancy, all the hedging? JMO

arrot:

 

[Dee10]

After Debs showing us the school record, anything is possible, isn't it? We know for sure this is not a missing abducted child, if so, LE would have tipped their hand to help find the perp, instead LE is not allowing any word out at all which tells me this is homemade.

You raised an interesting point, in the Somer Thompson case...they asked the public to be on the look out for friends/neighbors and gave a list of things like scratches, hiding a vehicle, that sort of thing. Somer was 7 and Haleigh was 5 at that time, I would think the same items they listed would apply for it to be a stranger abduction. Yet they didn't feel the need to ask the public for help in Haleigh's case. They did corner off the area, searched houses, cars, brought dogs in, dive teams, search the dump, forensics of the MH, etc. and found no evidence that this was a stranger abduction. If we get as far as a court case, the defense will never be able to say "all avenues weren't looked at". But they felt no need to ask for the public's help, except for the whereabouts of Misty Croslin on the night in question.

 

[Crosby87]

(BBM)


Based on the following it was 5 p.m. when the A/C man arrived but your absolutely right, LE hasn't stated anything other than that. Going by their (PCSO) unofficial timeline, the hours between 8 p.m. - 3 a.m. seem to be the hours in question and if that's the case than I'm ASSUMING (take it for what it's worth-you know what they say about ASSuming something) that they confirmed Haleigh's presence, at least up until 8 p.m...


http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

(BBM)

Merchant confirmed that and air conditioning repairman did visit the home at 5p.m. on Feb. 9, 2009, the day before Haleigh's disappearance, but police are confident he was not involved.

Inv. Merchant said he was questioned within an hour of the disappearance and provided a solid alibi.

Thank you for the link. There are so many twists and turns in this case. Five o'clock seems an odd time of the day for a service man to be making a house call imo. I would think most service men would have called it a day by 5 pm and left this non-emergency, routine call for another day.

Inv Merchant doesn’t tell us if the AC man is certain HaLeigh was there. Based on what Merchant said, the AC man was woken up at 4:30 am Tuesday for questioning!!! Wow!!!!

 

[Whisperer]

Kiki...did you see the school record just posted by Debs.

Doesn't mean misty was not at the bus stop as she could have been there to pick up her nephew........also doesn't mean RC wasn't there, as he could have picked up Haleigh if she went to school.

......but that record is strange with the smudge or erasure of Monday the 9th from Unexcused to a present but only half of the U was altered. And then the addition on the bottom is just not protocol at all. Definitley typed in and added later to a carbon record.

.....I know people have said bus driver interview and teacher interview but I have not heard it yet. Did they say what time she arrived that day? And why was RC noticed at the bus stop driving recklessly when M states they drove misty to school?

Thanks for your input...I just don't get these conflicting statements all the time. Since you provided a good video of a witness seeing misty at the stop I was wondering if you have other info on Haleigh's attendence that day.