Thought and theories on Jeremy

  • #681
To resurrect one of your favorite topics, maybe she didn't call him? Maybe Uncle Phil picked up the boys from school, brought them home, hung out for a while and then Debbie and him headed to Festival Foods.

My point....we don't know when he got there, how long in total he was there and how he got there (dropped by, came by on a mission, was called) etc. We just don't know.

Did Uncle Phil stop by the house and get the boys carseats? Does he keep carseats in his car for school pickups?
 
  • #682
We know DB would never think of driving w/o a license, don't we?

Yeah, I guess Jeremy and Samantha couldn't drive either. DB had to call her brother a few miles away to take her...yeah, that makes sense. :waitasec:

Maybe her brother was already at the house visiting?
 
  • #683
It doesn't hurt the guns standing them that way. LE members are trained to keep a gun muzzle down for safety. Maybe that's why they were left muzzle down. JMO.

Actually, law enforcement is trained to lay a weapon on its side, once it has been cleared. They wouldn't put it with the barrel up or down.
 
  • #684
See that is what perplexes me about it. The guns on their barrels would be more inclined to fall over and scratch the butt as it slides down the wall. I cringe just thinking about it. I would think LE would be sure to put them so they wouldn't fall over. Maybe the media did that for the picture? Maybe they were laying on the floor?

Media could have done it. I know that LE didn't.
 
  • #685
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhTi_l2fmvs"]Video of mom of missing baby in grocery store - YouTube[/ame]

Hard to tell ~ I almost feel like I'm making myself see them exchange money, but truly, I can't see it.
 
  • #686
Maybe because that wouldn't have been true in any way, shape or form?
Which part? The family function or the stolen wine?
 
  • #687
  • #688
Actually, law enforcement is trained to lay a weapon on its side, once it has been cleared. They wouldn't put it with the barrel up or down.

So either LE never touched these weapons, or they did, leaving them on there side and someone else later stood them muzzle down.
 
  • #689
Video of mom of missing baby in grocery store - YouTube

Hard to tell ~ I almost feel like I'm making myself see them exchange money, but truly, I can't see it.

Did she just hand him the smal items and she kept the wine box swinging it as she walks? LOL I think she may have been blasted by the time she got to the store.

The first place she heads is the liquor isle. They didn't buy anything else. Where did peeps say she bought baby food and other baby items? I can't see...but I can say it was afterthought, if she did. She walked in that store with purpose and she can move! She thought for a minute about getting it chilled, then grabbed that box with gusto and only parted with it long enough to place it on the counter. She grabbed it again and handed the not important items to her brother..lol.
 
  • #690
I don't have a clue who put them there and left them that way, but I do know who didn't...and that was LE.

So either LE never touched these weapons, or they did, leaving them on there side and someone else later stood them muzzle down.
 
  • #691
:what: Whaaaaatttt???? She had two rifles next to her bed???

Yes, dear. Unless it was reported wrong in the news media. Imagine having that in your home with 3 children!
 
  • #692
Maybe her brother was already at the house visiting?

If he was and saw Lisa, they would have pulled the bus right up to him and have him tell it to the mike.
 
  • #693
Video of mom of missing baby in grocery store - YouTube

Hard to tell ~ I almost feel like I'm making myself see them exchange money, but truly, I can't see it.

You know I just watched the video of this on another site and saw it and thought this was the same video but it is not. For some reason the part where she hands him something at the cash register is cut out of your video.

Here, watch this one and you can see her hand him something.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...win-Video-mother-man-hours-disappearance.html
 
  • #694
Yes, dear. Unless it was reported wrong in the news media. Imagine having that in your home with 3 children!

I hadn't heard that before and wasn't here most of the day, so when I saw it, I was just shocked. What is wrong with these people?:what:
 
  • #695
I don't want to get a TO tonight, so I will think this over very carefully before I post again. It has to do with "parents" being uneducated children.
 
  • #696
I don't have a clue who put them there and left them that way, but I do know who didn't...and that was LE.

Thanks. Do you think LE would have handled these weapons if they saw them? I mean would they check the serial numbers to see if they were stolen?
 
  • #697
I wonder why KRCG cut that part of the video out where Deb hands Phil something?
 
  • #698
Thanks. Do you think LE would have handled these weapons if they saw them? I mean would they check the serial numbers to see if they were stolen?

Honestly, I don't know. Do we even know when these photos were taken? In a perfect world, serial numbers would be checked, but I have no idea what transpired and when it transpired. LE might have grabbed the guns a minute after the photo was taken, cleared them, checked the serial numbers, and put them down. Just too many variables to know for certain. I can say that they didn't check them before the photos were taken though. And that is my opinion from experience of weapon handling.
 
  • #699
The YouTube comments for that video are odd--not so much for their ignorance (which is to be expected), as for their complete certainty about falsehoods.
 
  • #700
Honestly, I don't know. Do we even know when these photos were taken? In a perfect world, serial numbers would be checked, but I have no idea what transpired and when it transpired. LE might have grabbed the guns a minute after the photo was taken, cleared them, checked the serial numbers, and put them down. Just too many variables to know for certain. I can say that they didn't check them before the photos were taken though. And that is my opinion from experience of weapon handling.

I agree. It's really hard to come to any firm conclusion from those photos. Other than they own a couple of guns.
 

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