Thought and theories on Jeremy

[In da Middle]

But he wasn't. They were released at 10:30pm on the 4th. This interview was on the 5th.

All of what you said above applied to DB too. . .but she never asked for a break. In her own words, she just sat there and took it, never asked them to stop.

Do you really thing they got much sleep that night or the night before? He had just gotten home on the morning of the 4th to find his baby missing after working many, many hours that day. They then were with LE until 10:30 pm that night. I am sure they didn't sleep that night either. Then they went back down with LE for most of the day on the 5th. I am looking at probably more than 48 hours possibly without sleep for him at that point.

And with her, I can't see her lasting this long being questioned that many times with that little sleep without caving if it was her. We have all seen how she just blurts things out. This should have worked to her disadvantage, especially without any representation to save her from herself. Any good interrogator should have been able to crack her in no time with the way she talks. THIS is what keeps me on the fence with her the most.

 

[Sparklin]

But he wasn't. They were released at 10:30pm on the 4th. This interview was on the 5th.

All of what you said above applied to DB too. . .but she never asked for a break. In her own words, she just sat there and took it, never asked them to stop.

Actually Deb got a few hours sleep while Jeremy was working though

 

[Whisperer]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15940122/source-says-4-hour-window-for-abduction?clienttype=printable

"SOURCES said"...leading headline

LE confirmed that JI's ten hours is accounted for?......to whom did they say this and when? LE would be on sound and video saying this if i were a fact. The only SOURCE we know of is Jeremy Irwin who claims this.

The rest of the story is just a repeat from other news sources. I suggest the source for kctv5 is a family member and the confirmationthat LE said he is cleared is from a family member.

This is why people should question before accepting and quoting written reports as FACTS. There was no named source and LE has never stated this...in public. The LE person would have been quoted or better yet on camera. Till that is done I do not believe the source.

 

[norest4thewicked]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15940122/source-says-4-hour-window-for-abduction?clienttype=printable

"SOURCES said"...leading headline

LE confirmed that JI's ten hours is accounted for?......to whom did they say this and when? LE would be on sound and video saying this if i were a fact. The only SOURCE we know of is Jeremy Irwin who claims this.

The rest of the story is just a repeat from other news sources. I suggest the source is a family member and the confirmationthat LE said he is cleared is from a family member.

This is why people should question before accepting and quoting written reports as FACTS. There was no named source and LE has never stated this...in public. The LE person would have been quoted or better yet on camera. Till that is done I do not believe the source.

This is happening more and more in this thread. Then when you ask for the valid source, the question isn't answered...:waitasec:

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15940122/source-says-4-hour-window-for-abduction?clienttype=printable

"SOURCES said"...leading headline

LE confirmed that JI's ten hours is accounted for?......to whom did they say this and when? LE would be on sound and video saying this if i were a fact. The only SOURCE we know of is Jeremy Irwin who claims this.

The rest of the story is just a repeat from other news sources. I suggest the source for kctv5 is a family member and the confirmationthat LE said he is cleared is from a family member.

This is why people should question before accepting and quoting written reports as FACTS. There was no named source and LE has never stated this...in public. The LE person would have been quoted or better yet on camera. Till that is done I do not believe the source.

BBM: And LE has never come forward to refute it. I think if this was not true, they would have asked publicly if anyone in the area had seen JI between the hours of X and Y o'clock.

 

[melissasmom]

Do you really thing they got much sleep that night or the night before? He had just gotten home on the morning of the 4th to find his baby missing after working many, many hours that day. They then were with LE until 10:30 pm that night. I am sure they didn't sleep that night either. Then they went back down with LE for most of the day on the 5th. I am looking at probably more than 48 hours possibly without sleep for him at that point.

And with her, I can't see her lasting this long being questioned that many times with that little sleep without caving if it was her. We have all seen how she just blurts things out. This should have worked to her disadvantage, especially without any representation to save her from herself. Any good interrogator should have been able to crack her in no time with the way she talks. THIS is what keeps me on the fence with her the most.

Oh my gosh! Me too! Deb doesn't seem to have much of a "filter". I just can't see a person with that type of personality trait being able to keep silent and not "break" under intensive questioning.

 

[Whisperer]

Hang around long enough and nothing is a surprise. Many peeps just accept any ole written article as proof or evidence to back up their position. I prefer hearing it from the horses mouth. We should all know by now that news media, often times, are simply a rewrite of another article.

LE typically doesn't confirm their questions. They want a story so they have to scrape it up or pull it together from another article. It never used to be like that twenty years ago. LE had a good relationship with reporters but since the arrival of Defense Attorneys popping in, and the web, the arrows point squarely at their backs, the written news article has taken a turn...and, imo, not for the better.

 

[melissasmom]

Hang around long enough and nothing is a surprise. Many peeps just accept any ole written article as proof or evidence to back up their position. I prefer hearing it from the horses mouth. We should all know by now that news media, often times, are simply a rewrite of another article.

LE typically doesn't confirm their questions. They want a story so they have to scrape it up or pull it together from another article. It never used to be like that twenty years ago. LE had a good relationship with reporters but since the arrival of Defense Attorneys popping in, and the web, the arrows point squarely at their backs, the written news article has taken a turn...and, imo, not for the better.

Maybe a list should be compiled as to what HAS come straight from LE, either in a written statement or video, It would be a pretty short list, I think.

 

[Whisperer]

BBM: And LE has never come forward to refute it. I think if this was not true, they would have asked publicly if anyone in the area had seen JI between the hours of X and Y o'clock.

Refute what? Since when does LE ever refute what a local web media reports? They'd be talking all day long if that were the case. Web media makes mistakes daily, hourly or every minute. LE is not going to do Web Patrol.

 

[Whisperer]

Maybe a list should be compiled as to what HAS come straight from LE, either in a written statement or video, It would be a pretty short list, I think.

As I said, I only go by what I see and hear. There's a lot on video. LE is not going to be confirming very many questions....so yes, that list would be short. That is not unusual, that is the way it works, nowadays.

One has to be careful when they read things. They have to break it down. Heck, you practically need a class in learning to understand who, what actually said anything. I have seen quoted material get passed as happening yesterday. When I tracked it down it was a year old..but the writer didn't say that. It was even in quotes, and was written to appear that LE had just stated it...even alluding to the previous day as when it was said.

 

[melissasmom]

Refute what? Since when does LE ever refute what a local web media reports? They'd be talking all day long if that were the case. Web media makes mistakes daily, hourly or every minute. LE is not going to do Web Patrol.

Ok, I'm confused. Are you saying the only place that it was stated that JI's whereabouts were confirmed by LE was the internet? Web media. I just watched the interviews that askfornina posted from Fox (w/Megyn Kelly) and one of the legal experts on that show said the same thing, that LE had confirmed JI was at work. I would have to go back and watch it again to get exact wording.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Refute what? Since when does LE ever refute what a local web media reports? They'd be talking all day long if that were the case. Web media makes mistakes daily, hourly or every minute. LE is not going to do Web Patrol.

BBM: Did you not read your own post? They did not refute that JI has a solid alibi, nor did they ask the public for anyone who saw him other than at StarBucks that night. If they did not believe he was there, they would be asking for the publics help, unless you think LE is sloppy.

 

[highflyer]

Refute what? Since when does LE ever refute what a local web media reports? They'd be talking all day long if that were the case. Web media makes mistakes daily, hourly or every minute. LE is not going to do Web Patrol.

Really? I would think that they would. It seems too important a medium the way social contact has evolved to not have it monitored. LE web patrol would not surprise me.

 

[Whisperer]

I thought we went over this before and it was determined that LE did not confirm they had Jeremy on video.

The kctv5 article named nobody as their source. Their unknown source confirmed LE had the video of JI. I suspect JI or a family member is the source for that statement.

 

[annalia]

Sounds very similar to James Brando.

LE didn't refute that James Brando had a solid alibi either, and LE didn't ask the public if anyone had seen him between the hours of 11:30 and 6 AM.

 

[In da Middle]

Sounds very similar to James Brando.

LE didn't refute that James Brando had a solid alibi either, and LE didn't ask the public if anyone had seen him between the hours of 11:30 and 6 AM.

But they did ask if anybody here had seen JB that evening! Him and Jersey. They didn't ask this of anybody else though that I am aware of around here. I just did not personally know WHY they were asking at the time.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Sounds very similar to James Brando.

LE didn't refute that James Brando had a solid alibi either, and LE didn't ask the public if anyone had seen him between the hours of 11:30 and 6 AM.

I agree with that, so how can we discount one and not the other?
With JI we have an awake person working side by side with JI giving him an alibi, where as in JB's case we have a person who slept in another room from where JB was supposedly sleeping, when he wasn't out driving around. And as for Jersey, we don't really have an eye witness alibi, so my money would be on the latter two, if I had to pick and choose.

 

[Whisperer]

So has it now been determined that Jeremy worked with his boss the entire time?

Considering Starbucks would frown on a journeyman doing a licensed electrician's work, I don't know if I can believe that he was there the entire time. I bet they don't get any repeat business from Starbucks any longer.

It was supposed to be a 4 hr. job. Now we have two people working 6 more hours than planned. Jeremy is not licensed and, in fact, we don't even know how long he has been a journeyman. He had only been working for this guy a very short time.

If the licensed contractor was doing the job, why did Jeremy have the truck? My thoughts are it was a small job and the owner was going to let j do this on his own...if he needed help, he could call.

 

[Whisperer]

The point is we have to assume all these people are telling the truth?...well, I'm not. I think we have more liars than we have people with integrity in this case.s

For parents who want their child back to refuse to talk to the people that can bring her back is very concerning.

 

[annalia]

I agree with that, so how can we discount one and not the other? With JI we have an awake person working side by side with JI giving him an alibi, where as in JB's case we have a person who slept in another room from where JB was supposedly sleeping, when he wasn't out driving around. And as for Jersey, we don't really have an eye witness alibi, so my money would be on the latter two, if I had to pick and choose.

my bolding

I wonder that myself, why not for JB as well as JI.

LE has said they've moved on from JB. We don't know that the person with JB didn't see him during those hours, or didn't see him at some point asleep on the couch during those hours, it was just an assumption that the person went to another room and never saw him.

The point is that LE hasn't come out and refuted it, LE has said that they've moved on past him.

JMHO