Thread No. 21

[Jubal]

i stand my the quotes i provided --- from my all encompassing not selective memory and the advanced search function.

mentally and morally strong men do not kill their wives and babies or quote Rush Limbaugh.

THAT's a big 10-4!

 

[jake]

These people counsel about legal issues. It is not weakness to consult with them. They help us with our ignorance of the nuances of the law. Grief counselors help us with our ignorance of the nuances of loss.

MOO

You are ignorant of loss. I am not.

 

[sweetmop]

i stand my the quotes i provided --- from my all encompassing not selective memory and the advanced search function.

mentally and morally strong men do not kill their wives and babies or quote Rush Limbaugh.

AMEN!!!

 

[Jubal]

You are ignorant of loss. I am not.

I have experienced it. The experience, and much reading, and discussions with a counselor have alleviated the ignorance to some degree.

By the time we get to your age, or mine, Jake, we certainly have experienced many different emotional conditions. Doesn't preclude the desire to have a chat about it with somebody trained to know what we are going through.

 

[spring]

is someone getting ready to go postal on a message board?

 

[Jubal]

is someone getting ready to go postal on a message board?

Not I.

 

[The Saint]

Hmmm. You want to get personal with me, do you? Okay.

thank's for the invitation. i'll jump at it.

what if one of your daughters had married jason instead of michelle? What if it were your daughter and your unborn grandson who laid battered, bloody and lifeless in that master bedroom?

would you still feel the same as you do about jason?
would you consider MassComm's 23 points and still feel that jason had nothing to do with the murder?

 

[Jubal]

thank's for the invitation. i'll jump at it.

what if one of your daughters had married jason instead of michelle? What if it were your daughter and your unborn grandson who laid battered, bloody and lifeless in that master bedroom?

would you still feel the same as you do about jason?
would you consider MassComm's 23 points and still feel that jason had nothing to do with the murder?

Ah, yes. My mother's favorite phrase.

"How would you feel if somebody did that to you?"

The oft-repeated lesson in empathy.

 

[jake]

thank's for the invitation. i'll jump at it.

what if one of your daughters had married jason instead of michelle? What if it were your daughter and your unborn grandson who laid battered, bloody and lifeless in that master bedroom?

would you still feel the same as you do about jason?
would you consider MassComm's 23 points and still feel that jason had nothing to do with the murder?

Those 23 points are ridiculous. They were posted to convince the ignorant.

mentally and morally strong men do not kill their wives and babies or quote Rush Limbaugh.

 

[jake]

Ah, yes. My mother's favorite phrase.

"How would you feel if somebody did that to you?"

The oft-repeated lesson in empathy.

You obviously know nothing about empathy.

feeling of concern and understanding for another's situation or feelings.

 

[spring]

You obviously know nothing about empathy.

feeling of concern and understanding for another's situation or feelings.

are you trying out your new stand up comedy routine here? that's the funniest thing i have ever heard you say.

how much empathy do you have for the fishers? and do you have any understanding what it's like to be beaten to death and try to fend someone off who might hurt your children? how about empathy for that baby? i have heard it took 8 minutes for that baby to squirm and try to get oxygen. tell us all about empathy why don't you.

 

[spring]

how much empathy do you have for a little girl who will never know her mother? how much empathy do you have that Cassidy's children will never know their grandmother. how much empathy do you have that Cassidy will always have the emptiness of never having the special bond that a mother and daughter have.

you want to talk about empathy some more?

 

[spring]

look at that house on birchleaf. look at that empty swingset. there should be a little girl out there and a mommy pushing a baby boy. or imagine the rocking chairs on the front porch. a lap for each baby.

Cassidy will never know that little brother.

 

[spring]

can't you imagine two little children in that big back yard, running after Mr. G.

someone had the audacity to hope that a wonderful family will have a happy life in that home like MICHELLE was supposed to have. i think that was such a crass remark. that was MICHELLE'S home and MICHELLE'S life. it was all taken away.

 

[5bigfish5]

So grief is a part of life. Why do we need a counselor to teach us how to accept that part of life, or whatever he does? We don't need a happy counselor to teach us to accept joy.

Trust me!

Jason Young, IF I am to believe you, hasn't even tried to confront what demons are in front of him.

Mortal is but "man", he is leaving his soul on the line. I don't envy him.

What are we going to do in the meantime to INSURE that "C" NEVER meets the same fate as her mommy? WHO is going to guard her through EVERY SINGLE second of her teen-age years?

Yada,Yada.Yada ...heard it all before, JY is a "perfect specimen" of a husband and father, except...OOOOPS, his wife is missing on a night when he just so happens to be able to pretend that he is out of town.

((YAWN))

Read 'Em & Weep!

5BigFish5

 

[Jubal]

You obviously know nothing about empathy.

feeling of concern and understanding for another's situation or feelings.

There is nothing abut me that is obvious to you.

Where is your empathy for Michelle?

 

[5bigfish5]

As I have said before, if you need it, get it. Don't assume everyone needs it. We were talking about Jason.

WHO gives you the right to speak for Jason?

I for one would like SOMEONE...ANYONE! to Speak for Jason, EXCEPT a third-door neighbor "twice removed".

Just sayin'

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

These people counsel about legal issues. It is not weakness to consult with them. They help us with our ignorance of the nuances of the law. Grief counselors help us with our ignorance of the nuances of loss.

MOO

I hope you realized I agree with your takes. I also don't believe it's a weakness for someone to gain insight and assistance - if someone wants it, they should get it. If they don't feel they need it (at the time), that's okay too. I'd say that's pretty obvious for most, wouldn't you? Then again, many who actually need it the most, are the last to recognize it - you know, that denial aspect. JMO.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

is someone getting ready to go postal on a message board?

I would bet criminal defense profilers and consultants assisting a family would be well aware of the strengths and weaknesses in all key defense family members and friends, wouldn't you? Just sayin'....

Then again, the profiler and consultants may not spend as much time worried about fringe players. JMO, of course.

 

[raisincharlie]

What's a criminal defense profiler do? What's a consultant do?

Tell us about Dr. Godwin Jake. If you don't know about him, you really don't know what you think you know and if you can't confirm his presence in this case I for one will definitely know you are much less than honorable, in fact down right dishonest.

Going to spill the beans about him ?