UT - Kouri Richins, 33, Author, wife, mom, charged in husband’s unexpected death last year, May 2023 #3

[rescuemom]

One thing that really sticks out to me is the body cam video of who came to the house right away and when Katie R comes in she says "where are my boys." She strikes me as not liking KR from the get go which can happen with in laws but what a strange comment... AND in the phone call between Brice and KR he says that you don't mess with the R sisters, even saying I think that Amy is worse than Katie. Now Katie has the 3 boys.

 

[MarciB]

I’m sorry but the fixation on the gummies HAS to be bc that’s what KR’s first lawyer was going to try and KR wants her current team to keep down that road.

I know this defense team isn’t the best, but surely no attorney would continue down this line after there was no THC in his system unless the client is pushing it.

Based on what we know about KR, I’m sure she’s driving her defense team bc she thinks she’s the smartest person in the room

Could be why the defense is such a mess. They’re trying to align what they think is going to work with what KR wants and those are two different things.

Were the gummies in the baggies THC or CBD? I don't remember what they said

 

[ttjo]

I was being facetious.

He didn't ingest gummies.

No gummies were ever laced with fentanyl.

ER didn't die of drugs he brought home from Mexico in KR's suitcase.

Despite his questionable memory, RC supplied CL with fentanyl for KR who intentionally murdered ER with it.

I don't know how she served it to ER but no THC, no gummies.

ER wasn't walking with 5x a legal dose of fentanyl. IMO he was in bed when she dosed and murdered him.

Plus Seroquel -- this was intentional, was she giving him that in the days prior then switched to the fentanyl? Defense suggested the Seroquel came second which suggests to me it came first. I don't know why or how but it was deliberate so it served some purpose for KR.

JMO

Oh I knew you were being sarcastic. I was just adding to it, I agree with you. No way was there fent in those gummies. besides they found gummies in a green jacket in the closet, ( i think it was even her jacket) Were they tested not tested didn’t even matter.
The one thing that was so obviously manipoulative is her reaction to them saying he could have died of covid. “NO way, he is a mountain goat, he will turn over in his grave if you say he died of covid… I trained for a marathon and he still beat me “ Just to make it look like if she did poison him why would she object to a covid COD, ?? She was so maniupulative, a lot of her actions seemed like she was doing things to create a narrative. Like the boyfriend, He was very sweet but not the sharpest crayon in the box, She pulled a Wendy Adelson, Reasonable to suspect the jealous boyfriend could have done it?

 

[flowermama]

If Kouri was flush with 11 million in real estate, she didn't need ER's house. She had all those other houses.

She sounds like a brat. She screwed everyone over but is irate that ER outsmarted her.

Yes, “brat” is exactly the word I thought of!

Omg is there no court today? Nooooooo!!!!

 

[otto]

Do we know as a fact that either the housekeeper or the main drug dealer confirmed the drugs were actually fentanyl and not some other pain killer?

I haven't watched all the testimony, but the drug dealers and house keeper said they didn't deal in fentanyl, only oxycontin and oxycodone. The medical examiner said that street-fentanyl is added to many drugs, but not sold as fenatnyl.

Just saw the video posted upthread - still have to watch it, but it sounds like the drug dealer contradicted himself regarding which drugs he sold.

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

Sure, there may be some questions, but the cumulative evidence that is not in doubt is overwhelming. It is a much farther leap to believe she is innocent than guilty. I know she is a narcissist but does she ever think how stupid she was to throw away such a great life she had? Eric deserved so much more. Thank God he had the love of his family, success in business, good friends, and the love and memories with his boys.

 

[Lebowski]

all these crazy made up stories, they have the same theme. KR is smarter than everyone else and knows ER better than anyone else and everybody is mean to her

combined with the "ME ME ME" decisionmaking, the non-stop lying and manipulating, then of course murdering her husband for money, i'm gonna go ahead and suggest we have a narcissist on our hands

 

[Megnut]

I haven't watched all the testimony, but the drug dealers and house keeper said they didn't deal in fentanyl, only oxycontin and oxycodone. The medical examiner said that street-fentanyl is added to many drugs, but not sold as fenatnyl.

Just saw the video posted upthread - still have to watch it, but it sounds like the drug dealer contradicted himself regarding which drugs he sold.

KR's defense though hasn't been that she got drugs at ER's behest for his supposed pain but didn't know they were laced with fentanyl. Like she accidentally gave him tainted aspirin.

I am surprised she didn't grab onto Covid as a potential natural causes but I think she was bolstered by the thought it was an aneurysm. As soon as they told her about toxicology though, she knew she was in trouble. Hence the gummies. No way did ER leave gummies everywhere, in a house with children! IMO KR over-staged that, alongside her new narrative that ER was hard-core with the gummies and his expired oxy Rx.

100% KR put the bottle bedside.

We have two parents. IMO only one genuinely loved them, the one who didn't leave any drugs within their reach, and one who thought nothing of killing their daddy and had good (bad) to stash/stage drugs everywhere.

There's your smoking gun.

KR alone knew what the toxicology would reveal before it was ever run.

JMO

 

[tlcya]

combined with the "ME ME ME" decisionmaking, the non-stop lying and manipulating, then of course murdering her husband for money, i'm gonna go ahead and suggest we have a narcissist on our hands

If what she wrote about her childhood is true in that self help retreat she took w her BFF I am speculating the folowing:

She describes her mother as having a gambling addiction.

She describes instability and constant moves from house to house.

Could her issues with poor money management, financial irresponsibility, the need to be or appear wealthy, and obsession with collecting McMansions and holding on to her own family residence, come ultimately from her mother's obsession with gambling combined with her fear of housing instability? Did those factors from childhood, if true, in part, create the narcissist she is now?

 

[otto]

Sure, there may be some questions, but the cumulative evidence that is not in doubt is overwhelming. It is a much farther leap to believe she is innocent than guilty. I know she is a narcissist but does she ever think how stupid she was to throw away such a great life she had? Eric deserved so much more. Thank God he had the love of his family, success in business, good friends, and the love and memories with his boys.

It looks like she had some really dumb ideas about get-rich-quick schemes, and, like a gambler, threw good money after bad ... until she was so far in debt that she viewed murder as the only solution. What she did not expect is that Eric was 2 years ahead of her, and that he had locked in his assets for his sons - eliminated her from having access to his money.

It seems like she viewed Eric as "money" from the day they met.

 

[Lebowski]

It looks like she had some really dumb ideas about get-rich-quick schemes, and, like a gambler, threw good money after bad ... until she was so far in debt that she viewed murder as the only solution. What she did not expect is that Eric was 2 years ahead of her, and that he had locked in his assets for his sons - eliminated her from having access to his money.

It seems like she viewed Eric as "money" from the day they met.

and she may have convinced herself she really was a multimillionaire, or was "almost there", etc. when you're playing complicated financial games it's easy to swindle yourself with, e.g., the thought that you're in the hole at the moment but "these will pay off". it takes a tough and careful mind to be honest about what position you're in and where it's headed.

 

[Megnut]

and she may have convinced herself she really was a multimillionaire, or was "almost there", etc. when you're playing complicated financial games it's easy to swindle yourself with, e.g., the thought that you're in the hole at the moment but "these will pay off". it takes a tough and careful mind to be honest about what position you're in and where it's headed.

As with any embezzlement scheme, it works.

Until it doesn't.

 

[Weki]

I honestly don't know how to wrap my mind around this case. I haven't been following it diligently like some others. It wasn't a case that really drew me in from the get go. But I have been watching bits and pieces of the trial and to me it seems like most of the evidence is motive evidence.

However, I recall the state's opening statement emphasized that Kouri was the only one there that night (aside from the children, of course) and she is the only one with the means, motive, and opportunity. In that sense, the state's case is won. As long as there is definitive evidence that he was not a habitual drug user and he did not procure those drugs himself she's SUNK. She is sunk just by logic and process of elimination. And I think that's why the state is focusing a lot on motive. If the defense case in chief brings to light anything that raises doubt as to Eric's drug habits, I think the state's case is in trouble.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I honestly don't know how to wrap my mind around this case. I haven't been following it diligently like some others. It wasn't a case that really drew me in from the get go. But I have been watching bits and pieces of the trial and to me it seems like most of the evidence is motive evidence.

However, I recall the state's opening statement emphasized that Kouri was the only one there that night (aside from the children, of course) and she is the only one with the means, motive, and opportunity. In that sense, the state's case is won. As long as there is definitive evidence that he was not a habitual drug user and he did not procure those drugs himself she's SUNK. She is sunk just by logic and process of elimination. And I think that's why the state is focusing a lot on motive. If the defense case in chief brings to light anything that raises doubt as to Eric's drug habits, I think the state's case is in trouble.

JMO

The digital forensics guy testified -- there was nothing on ER's devices.

Consciousness of Guilt is a real thing. Walk the Dog aside, her deleted internet searches sink her.

The State isn't tasked with proving their case beyond ALL doubt. There remain unanswered questions in EVERY case I've followed. Often because defendants successfully destroyed evidence.

Here, meticulously, digital forensics revealed triangulation and corroboration -- didn't matter what lies may have been told -- the phones of three people (four if you count Nicole) show their interactions, messages, phone calls, travel, drug runs in the time period leading up to ER's death and bam! Fentanyl. 5x the lethal dose. There is no evidence that ER took hard drugs, except for a couple pills after an old surgery! He wasn't a hard-core fentanyl user with a high tolerance! Occasional THC user, none of which was in his system at death.

So we have an obvious pipeline for the drug that killed ER. Digital forensics doesn't lie. It's the new DNA.

It's the Defense's case that's in trouble.

JMO

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Anyone have thoughts on the picture the state admitted through AS but isn’t publishing until the minors are redacted? When AS saw the picture she looked a little uncomfortable. Right before the picture, Bloodworth asked when the first picture admitted by defense was taken.

AS said at the end of the night then corrected herself and said towards the end. KR made that bug eyed face she makes every time someone testifies to something thats not great for her.

Then Bloodworth asked if the first picture was then before or after Bryce took off his pants (what. In. The. World).

Then he admitted and showed her the picture with minor children.

So curious if it’s the one KR was freaking out about in the phone call that ER’s sisters were using to show she was an unfit parent.

It was a video that needed to be redacted before publishing it. It's probably the same video KR was complaining about on the phone call with Knudsen that she said Amy recorded. KR said Amy showed it to their attorneys to try make KR look like she's a bad mom and was not grieving.

 

[Moon1871]

The digital forensics guy testified -- there was nothing on ER's devices.

Consciousness of Guilt is a real thing. Walk the Dog aside, her deleted internet searches sink her.

The State isn't tasked with proving their case beyond ALL doubt. There remain unanswered questions in EVERY case I've followed. Often because defendants successfully destroyed evidence.

Here, meticulously, digital forensics triangulation and corroborated -- didn't matter what lied may have been told -- the phones of three people (four if you count Nicole) show their interactions, messages, phone calls, travel, drug runs in the time period leading up to ER's death and bam! Fentanyl. 5x the lethal dose. There is no evidence that ER took hard drugs, except for a couple pills after an old surgery! He wasn't a hard-core fentanyl user with a high tolerance! Occasional THC user, none of which was in his system at death.

So we have an obvious pipeline for the drug that killed ER. Digital forensics doesn't lie. It's the new DNA.

It's the Defense's case that's in trouble.

JMO

"If someone is poisoned how does it go down on the death certificate as”

Her internet searches, plus het fanatical attempts to wipe her phones/icloud clean, tell me all I need to know.

JMO

 

[Lebowski]

"If someone is poisoned how does it go down on the death certificate as”

Her internet searches, plus het fanatical attempts to wipe her phones/icloud clean, tell me all I need to know.

JMO

did she really search that??

 

[Moon1871]

did she really search that??

Yup. See Monday's testimony by Chris Kotrodimos, digital forensics analyst.

 

[Justice101]

KR's defense though hasn't been that she got drugs at ER's behest for his supposed pain but didn't know they were laced with fentanyl. Like she accidentally gave him tainted aspirin.

I am surprised she didn't grab onto Covid as a potential natural causes but I think she was bolstered by the thought it was an aneurysm. As soon as they told her about toxicology though, she knew she was in trouble. Hence the gummies. No way did ER leave gummies everywhere, in a house with children! IMO KR over-staged that, alongside her new narrative that ER was hard-core with the gummies and his expired oxy Rx.

100% KR put the bottle bedside.

We have two parents. IMO only one genuinely loved them, the one who didn't leave any drugs within their reach, and one who thought nothing of killing their daddy and had good (bad) to stash/stage drugs everywhere.

There's your smoking gun.

KR alone knew what the toxicology would reveal before it was ever run.

JMO

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[tlcya]

did she really search that??

yep, along with these:

Utah author killed husband because she wanted his money - prosecutors

and these

(from trial livestream)

these:




Kouri was a busy busy girl.

My favorite was Utah luxuray women prisons but I can't find an image of that one.