Thread no. 22

[raisincharlie]

Well, have a cup of joe on me !

Holy cow - where have you been hiding? Good to "see" you. Hope all is well! Its been:crazy: here.

 

[pack_fan]

Holy cow - where have you been hiding? Good to "see" you. Hope all is well! Its been:crazy: here.

Been a long time, was thinking about Michelle this evening so I thought I would drop in to see if anything was new. I'm going to read for a bit but will never catch up. Hope all is well with everyone, good to "see" you all too.

 

[strach304]

Hey there, Pack Fan Good to see you.

 

[pack_fan]

Hey there, Pack Fan Good to see you.

And you as well strach :blowkiss: .

 

[jilly]

I didn't mean the 8th month applied to Michelle. Sorry I should have clarified that. She was pregnant when she married him, car accident and then the boating accident and murder. Seems like he could have been arranging accidents because of the pregnancies. Something happened around the date of the marriage I'm sure. The night of the murder had to have involved something that set him off to do it the way he did and not just to have an alibi of being out of town. There are other ways unless our early theories of him trying to strangle her and she fought him off in a way that caused him to pick up something to hit her with or he took it away from her.

Hi Strach! I think he thought it was going to be easier to strangle her than it was. Sheriff said there was a "struggle" so I think Michelle got free for a moment there which riled him. He then reached in the end table for a flashlight and beat her to death. Bless her soul.

 

[daddydidit]

Hi Strach! I think he thought it was going to be easier to strangle her than it was. Sheriff said there was a "struggle" so I think Michelle got free for a moment there which riled him. He then reached in the end table for a flashlight and beat her to death. Bless her soul.

Bless her soul is right no one should have to die like that poor thing did.

 

[strach304]

Quite right Jilly, I think she picked up something and whacked him in the head. I know LE took pics of Jason but I'm not sure they'd be able to find a knot or gash on his head by the time they got the warrant. Hair would hide that. Swelling would've gone down and a cut would've healed somewhat as well by that time I would think.

 

[sweetmop]

Hi Everyone! I'm dropping in too late tonight. I've just been reading here and trying to catch up.
How was the boating accident first found out about? That's just so unreal to me. Jason had been thinking about getting rid of Michelle for quite a while, it sounds like.
I sure hope and pray that LE knows all about this act.

 

[sweetmop]

Saint, please check your pm's.

 

[snowshuze]

kwatson,

After the May accident - Michelle lost the baby within 2 weeks of the wreck, insiders say the wreck had nothing to do with it but another of those coincidences I suppose. She got pregnant again and was 20 weeks when she was murdered.

I would be interested in reading the report the OB doc submitted concerning the reasons behind a therapeutic abortion. I feel it will probably come out in testimony at trial.

ETA: Report perhaps was not the right terminology. Her medical records would have documentation for his decision in that regard.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Hi Everyone! I'm dropping in too late tonight. I've just been reading here and trying to catch up.
How was the boating accident first found out about? That's just so unreal to me. Jason had been thinking about getting rid of Michelle for quite a while, it sounds like.
I sure hope and pray that LE knows all about this act.

Good morning sweetmop!

Thinking about that boating incident - if it happened, I would bet that was very unsettling to Michelle and I'd think that it would be a natural reaction to at least tell a few people, such as her mom, sister, best friends, etc. Just as we all talk about things that happened over the weekend, etc. That's if she never thought Jason was doing anything dastardly and it was truly an "accident." Soooo, if I were a betting person, if the incident happened - one or more people heard from her what happened. That's a very good thing.

 

[Niner]

Am I the only one here who has no idea what is going on? Where can I find out some inside info, and not the Jake stuff, just legitimate stuff? Is there another board where there is info? And where the heck is Sami gone to? And is there going to be an arrest soon??? I sure hope so.

I'm as much in the dark as you are mama cita. i wish I knew what the heck everyone is being so secretive about. Oh, well... guess I'l just have to sweat it out and wait for something to hit the papers.

Yes me too!! Lost that is... and what is this about babies - sons - was Michelle pregnant with TWINS???
I could be lost, as I'm still on Thread 20 back on July 5th.... hope to catch and 'see' if you guys are telling any of these secrets!! LOL!

 

[Jubal]

Yes me too!! Lost that is... and what is this about babies - sons - was Michelle pregnant with TWINS???
I could be lost, as I'm still on Thread 20 back on July 5th.... hope to catch and 'see' if you guys are telling any of these secrets!! LOL!

That refers to Michelle's two pregnancies--the one that was terminated by threapeutic abortion several weeks after the car accident, and the one she was carrying when she was killed. Both were reputed to have been boys.

MOO

 

[sweetmop]

Hi Niner, Mama-cita, and less0305!
I too feel a little out of the loop on the goings ons here. There are a few of our kind fellow sleuthers that have tried to catch me up on things.

I think RC or The Saint would be really good ones to give a brief summation of some of the latest that is now known.

Let's just say that JY apparently had attempted a couple of prior murderous attempts on Michelle before he finally bludgeoned her to death.

Just when you think this story is as bad as it gets, we hear something even more demented and dastardly!

JY really has no business at all having the custody of sweet little Cassidy, IMHO. I do worry over her welfare.

It's a dreary gray day here, perfect day for the arrest of a killer. IMHO.

 

[fran]

kwatson,

After the May accident - Michelle lost the baby within 2 weeks of the wreck, insiders say the wreck had nothing to do with it but another of those coincidences I suppose. She got pregnant again and was 20 weeks when she was murdered.

Sorry, I'm not buyin' it for a minute, that the accident was NOT a cause of the loss of the baby!

A 100' drop and landing in the water? No way Jose. The accident was the cause of the loss of that baby, IMHO.

Where is this story coming from about a boating accident? When was that?

JMHO and curious,
fran

 

[jilly]

Sorry, I'm not buyin' it for a minute, that the accident was NOT a cause of the loss of the baby!

A 100' drop and landing in the water? No way Jose. The accident was the cause of the loss of that baby, IMHO.

Where is this story coming from about a boating accident? When was that?

JMHO and curious,
fran

Hi Fran! The boating accident happened just before their 3rd anniversary. RC addressed this in post 59 (this thread). It's a little hard to keep up with all these little tidbits coming out lately. Who the story came from - don't know exactly but I would think it's someone who knows Michelle.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Sorry, I'm not buyin' it for a minute, that the accident was NOT a cause of the loss of the baby!

A 100' drop and landing in the water? No way Jose. The accident was the cause of the loss of that baby, IMHO.

Where is this story coming from about a boating accident? When was that?

JMHO and curious,
fran

Fran,
I agree 100%. No matter how hard the JY camp tried to lead us to thinking the two situations were unrelated, I don't buy it. JMO, of course.
But if it would have happened to me - the crash and then having to terminate the pregnancy because the baby stopped thriving within a week or two? I would never be able to get rid of the thought that it was related, even if my OB/GYN told me they weren't.

The JY camp has told us over and over that Michelle's OB/GYN told them that the crash did not cause it. I am only wondering about this - would an OB/GYN try to "soften" the guilt they might feel if they knew it really did cause it? I don't know, ethically, if a dr would do that. I would hope a dr would tell me the honest answer, but maybe he/she cushioned the heartache of losing the baby? I don't know, but what do you think?

ETA: I should clarify that IMO, only Michelle would have really been feeling the "heartache" of losing the baby.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

What is very puzzling to me.......
!) Michelle was a brilliant student cheerleader, vivacious.
2) She has better earning power than "booty boy"
3) She wanted a family....but without a father??
4)He obviously resented getting married
5) She must have realized that attempts were being made on her life & her pregnancies....
She just stayed in this situation when she could be better off on her own ..or was she in the process of ending this horrible relationship.? She had brains ,beauty, a loving mother & sister & a generous father. Jason's family obviously never cared for her & show it openly since her death.
What am I missing here.?????:waitasec:

 

[The Saint]

What is very puzzling to me.......
!) Michelle was a brilliant student cheerleader, vivacious.
2) She has better earning power than "booty boy"
3) She wanted a family....but without a father??
4)He obviously resented getting married
5) She must have realized that attempts were being made on her life & her pregnancies....
She just stayed in this situation when she could be better off on her own ..or was she in the process of ending this horrible relationship.? She had brains ,beauty, a loving mother & sister & a generous father. Jason's family obviously never cared for her & show it openly since her death.
What am I missing here.?????:waitasec:

michelle came from a home where the parents were divorced. she might have been trying to hold it together for cassidy and jason jr's sake.

michelle was a strong willed person. she might have thought that she could fix the problems. or maybe she felt she couldn't and she was going to divorce jason - the most dangerous, pivotal moment in a pregnant woman's life. that decision cost her life.

 

[jilly]

michelle came from a home where the parents were divorced. she might have been trying to hold it togethr for cassidy and jason jr's sake.

michelle was a strong willed person. she might have thought that she could fix the problems. or maybe she felt she couldn't and she was going to divorce jason - the most dangerous, pivotal moment in a pregnant woman's life. that decision cost her life.

I think this is very possible Saint. Very insightful. In fact, I'd bet this is the way it was. Also, I think Michelle had a dream like many of us women - a family of our own. How many women do you hear about that stay in an abusive marriage for the sake of the kids? Many women think that they can fix the problems and that the man will change. That being said...jy must have had some good points otherwise she wouldn't have married him.

Reminds me of Laci Peterson. Her parents were divorced as well and Scott like jy were on their way (so they thought) to becoming the sole provider.

We've heard that Michelle was planning on quitting her job or taking a long leave of absence. She was planning on being a homemaker. If they divorced, she'd have to work full time and the children would be looked after by a nanny. That wasn't her plan. I can see where she would be willing to make sacrifices so that her dream could come true.

I don't believe she thought the guy would ever kill her....I mean, who thinks that unless one is physically abusive. There's no evidence of that here. I think she could very easily believe that the 'accidents' were just that - accidents.

I don't even know if she knew about MM. If she did, I don't believe she found out that fateful night. I think this murder was planned way ahead of time. If she did know beforehand, she didn't go to a lawyer; she went to a therapist. If this is the case, then I have to believe she was still willing to hang onto the marriage.