Tim Miller funded Misty's trip to Orlando & also reveals shocking info about Ron.

[Donjeta]

Dunno but I imagine that anybody who does searching for missing people for a living might find some case getting to him more than others. It must be really harrowing sometimes, especially if you feel that the family is not assisting but throwing road blocks in your way.

 

[atherella]

And no offense but AH confirming soemthing independently is far, far from LE confirming it. I think I'll wait and hear what LE has to say. So far, nada.

After all of the calls (from people on the internet and bloggers), DCF, along with LE, stopped by the home of Ron Cummings to check on the gun situation.

Based on claims in report from an internet site and information from web forums, sources close the Haleigh Cummings abduction case say an investigation was opened by DCF regarding claims Haleigh's father had talked about using a gun in a threating manner in the presence of his young son.

*snipped*

CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php

IMO, if anyone should have made a report to DCF, it should have been Tim Miller - the person with FIRST HAND information - NOT anonymous people off the internet reporting hearsay.

 

[atherella]

And no offense but AH confirming soemthing independently is far, far from LE confirming it. I think I'll wait and hear what LE has to say. So far, nada.

After all of the calls (from people on the internet and bloggers), DCF, along with LE, stopped by the home of Ron Cummings to check on the gun situation.

Based on claims in report from an internet site and information from web forums, sources close the Haleigh Cummings abduction case say an investigation was opened by DCF regarding claims Haleigh's father had talked about using a gun in a threating manner in the presence of his young son.

*snipped*

CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php

IMO, if anyone should have made a report to DCF, it should have been Tim Miller - the person with FIRST HAND information - NOT anonymous people off the internet reporting hearsay.


ETA - no police report was written regarding this "incident".

 

[KOOL LOOK]

After all of the calls (from people on the internet and bloggers), DCF, along with LE, stopped by the home of Ron Cummings to check on the gun situation.



http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5438311.php

IMO, if anyone should have made a report to DCF, it should have been Tim Miller - the person with FIRST HAND information - NOT anonymous people off the internet reporting hearsay.


ETA - no police report was written regarding this "incident".

Wonder who? :snooty: Again, this kind of behavior scares me, and I don't scare easily. All it's doing is causing the families to become hardened, distance and become guarded and not trust anyone. Honestly, I can't blame them. Thanks for the report A, Haleighs case is damaged imo.

 

[I AM THE 14 CAR]

High profile case.
DCF goes to site
LE goes to site
A gun is involved
A child is involved.

and NO Police report ? Say What ???????

CORRECTION: Sources close to the investigation tell 97.3 The Sky that DCF got that report Tuesday and that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office sent a deputy to assist the agency.

Our source also says the sheriff's office has not yet been involved in this matter, but are they being kept in the loop should something criminal evolve from the DCF investigation.

From 973

 

[kiki the parrot]

It bears reminding that we, on the internet, have never yet been made privy to exactly what reports may have been made or what communications may have taken place between TM, LE, or w/e subsequent calls to other agencies may have occurred.

What ought to scare all of us are reports that homicidal threats may have been made in the presence of a child. If accurate it is the child's wellbeing and safety which may be "damaged, and I applaud any efforts--by however many people it takes--to advocate for Junior and have this properly investigated. Better safe than sorry, if LE and DFS determine there are neither any unsafe weapons in the home, nor otherwise any basis for concern; if they are as convinced as some here that TM just "cooked up" these allegations, then there will be no finding of fault and Junior allowed to remain. TM has an excellent reputation tho and they obviously believe the concerns warrant a closer examination of Junior's environment. And I'm certain if DCF hasn't listened to TM before, they will now. But if the concerns are warranted then everyone should be thankful if there are any precautions or steps which can be taken to improve Junior's welfare. JMO

arrot:

 

[curvecuti]

It bears reminding that we, on the internet, have never yet been made privy to exactly what reports may have been made or what communications may have taken place between TM, LE, or w/e subsequent calls to other agencies may have occurred.

What ought to scare all of us are reports that homicidal threats may have been made in the presence of a child. If accurate it is the child's wellbeing and safety which may be "damaged, and I applaud any efforts--by however many people it takes--to advocate for Junior and have this properly investigated. Better safe than sorry, if there are no unsafe weapons found in the home, and if LE and DFS determine there is no basis for concern and TM just cooked up these allegations, then there will be no finding of fault. TM has an excellent reputation tho and they obviously believe the concerns warrant a closer examination of Junior's environment. And I'm certain if DCF hasn't listened to TM before, they will now. JMO

arrot:

He isn't even the one that contacted them, so he must not have been too concerned. And as you said IF ACCURATE, the first telling of the story there was no mention of Jr. being present.

 

[kiki the parrot]

It bears reminding that we, on the internet, have never yet been made privy to exactly what reports may have been made or what communications may have taken place between TM, LE, or w/e subsequent calls to other agencies may have occurred.

What ought to scare all of us are reports that homicidal threats may have been made in the presence of a child. If accurate it is the child's wellbeing and safety which may be "damaged, and I applaud any efforts--by however many people it takes--to advocate for Junior and have this properly investigated. Better safe than sorry, if LE and DFS determine there are neither any unsafe weapons in the home, nor otherwise any basis for concern; if they are as convinced as some here that TM just "cooked up" these allegations, then there will be no finding of fault and Junior allowed to remain. TM has an excellent reputation tho and they obviously believe the concerns warrant a closer examination of Junior's environment. And I'm certain if DCF hasn't listened to TM before, they will now. But if the concerns are warranted then everyone should be thankful if there are any precautions or steps which can be taken to improve Junior's welfare. JMO

He isn't even the one that contacted them, so he must not have been too concerned. And as you said IF ACCURATE, the first telling of the story there was no mention of Jr. being present.

(bbm) No as I pointed out already, I just don't pretend to know exactly what prior reports may have been made nor what previous communications may have taken place between TM, LE and including w/e subsequent calls to other agencies may have occurred. Nor am I prepared to tear down Tim Miller's reputation, to protect RC, at Junior's expense. JMO

arrot:

 

[LaLaw2000]

Thanks, Kki. Tim Miller is a fine human being and missing persons advocate. I have donated to TES and will continue to do so.

The thing about this is that we have no way of knowing for sure that Tim did not notify someone in CPS just as he did PCSO. There may be a reason Tim's entire story has not come out yet.

I sincerely cannot understand the criticism of Tim Miller in any form or fashion, but that is just me.

MOO

 

[LaLaw2000]

He isn't even the one that contacted them, so he must not have been too concerned. And as you said IF ACCURATE, the first telling of the story there was no mention of Jr. being present.

Hi, curvecuti. With all due respect, the entire story may not have come out yet. We just do not know.

And very honestly, there could have been a very good reason for Tim not to have mentioned Jr. in the first part. If I were to report anyone to CPS, I certainly would not mention it in a public forum or interview because I would not want the person I reported to get wind of it. It would hamper any investigation, IMO.

Tim Miller is certainly not to blame for someone else's actions.

MOO

 

[Muffet]

Maybe Tim didn't mention Jr publicly until he had reason to fear the officials weren't going to take his report seriously enough without public pressure?

Such concern would be understandable from anyone who's observed the egregious record of DCF in that regard and the daily tragedies that result.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Why would ANYONE mention this supposed incident publicly? Someone confides to another individual in the privacy of his own home and that person blabs it to someone who posts it on the internet. If Tim Miller was concerned about that child, he would have kept his mouth shut in the presence of his blogger friend and raised issues not about child custody but about Ron's emotional state.

I'm watching NG now (AARRGGHH). Miller's lawyer is claiming that he told LE but the "focus" was on the polygraph and voice stress. So I guess LE either didn't hear Miller or they didn't care about Miller's gun story or they dropped the ball. Take your pick. Any way you slice it, Miller has injected himself to the 10th power in this investigation, far beyond conducting searches, etc. The whole thing is mind-boggling.

 

[CarmelEyesD]

JMO In Misty's mind, she has been betrayed and double-crossed all of her life. I just don't see how double-crossing or betraying her in the name and/or guise of friendship is going to get her to betray anyone, reveal any secrets or pull out the truth. What has probably happened is Misty will be even MORE careful of who she trusts now, or trust NO one at all.

Referencing the "laundry' done with no laundry detergent, it is entirely possible Misty did do laundry, and used dish detergent. I know poor people who have used dish soap when they don't have money to get laundry detergent.

Again, IMO, I think Misty is telling what she 'knows' and what she 'knows' isn't much. I do not believe she could fool or resist LE, FBI, TM, public opinion and Ron for that long a time on a lie.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Too many people are trying to blame and hang Misty. I bet the perp who got into that mh that night is lovin it. There is no way Misty would not have been ratted on by now with all the hate, if she wasn't home and out doing only those involved would know.

Misty had no car that night. What did she do? Walk Haleigh's deceased body for miles and dispose of her? I don't think so.

Exactly Carmel, makes no sense even the way Tim is saying his motives are for tricking Misty. Bad plan.

 

[Granna6]

Thanks, Kki. Tim Miller is a fine human being and missing persons advocate. I have donated to TES and will continue to do so.

The thing about this is that we have no way of knowing for sure that Tim did not notify someone in CPS just as he did PCSO. There may be a reason Tim's entire story has not come out yet.

I sincerely cannot understand the criticism of Tim Miller in any form or fashion, but that is just me.

MOO

I've always thought highly of Tim MIller, too. His plan with Donna Brock would have worked, too, if only she hadn't pulled the road rage stunt and blown her cover. I just don't understand why she would stoop to that level. Proves she wasn't a professional, just someone Tim independently trusted.

 

[PorcineGranny]

Don't blame others for a situation Misty has put herself in. I nor others have ever accused Misty of killing Haleigh, but I do accuse her of with holding information.

Tim was trying to get to that truth, he even tried to put himself in her place and provide a semblance of normalcy, I would have done the same thing. If I was Haleigh's parent, Misty would not be walking around, smoking on two legs without crutches at this time. JMO

 

[kamky]

Maybe Tim didn't mention Jr publicly until he had reason to fear the officials weren't going to take his report seriously enough without public pressure?

Such concern would be understandable from anyone who's observed the egregious record of DCF in that regard and the daily tragedies that result.

This makes me very uncomfortable, though. I think highly of Tim Miller and his accomplishments, but I don't understand why anyone would reveal an incident to a blogger and, in doing so, to the internet in general, instead of or even in addition to bringing this to the attention of LE. It should only have been taken to LE!

As much as I think of TM, I think he sometimes has a tendency to get emotional and speak his mind publically because he cares. However, some of these comments may be better left unsaid in a public place. There is always the possibility of unintended exaggeration when emotions are high.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

It's one thing for people to organize searches for a missing person. It's another thing to interfere with an on-going police investigation. In this, I agree with Marc Klaas; LE tells FAMILIES not to investigate on their own, for fear of screwing things up. Tim Miller was way out of bounds on this. He knows it too, hence the deflection of attention onto Ron Cummings.

 

[stilettos]

It's one thing for people to organize searches for a missing person. It's another thing to interfere with an on-going police investigation. In this, I agree with Marc Klaas; LE tells FAMILIES not to investigate on their own, for fear of screwing things up. Tim Miller was way out of bounds on this. He knows it too, hence the deflection of attention onto Ron Cummings.

We do not know what LE knows about this or what they wanted done or not. Until they release something in the media about it...I will believe TM...and I notice that Rc has a lot of deflecting going on on his behalf...everywhere. JMO

 

[kamky]

It's one thing for people to organize searches for a missing person. It's another thing to interfere with an on-going police investigation. In this, I agree with Marc Klaas; LE tells FAMILIES not to investigate on their own, for fear of screwing things up. Tim Miller was way out of bounds on this. He knows it too, hence the deflection of attention onto Ron Cummings.

bbm

Either that or LE has messed up and is so desperate at this point that they engaged TM to see if he could help them get through the deadlock by helping out. I hate to even think this, but this whole thing is so bizarre that who knows!?! Good grief!