Timmy & Chelsea Croslin; and the hours before Haleigh went missing.

[Nonni Brenda]

yeah, listening to the 911 tape showed one side of her, watching her interviews with Ron in control showed another, and watching the bust tapes showed another. The hey Baby stuff was kind of mind blowing. I don't like saying this because it changes the dynamics of Ron, (and his record should speak for itself), but Misty really did seem to have a certain hold on Ron. She bragged about taking him away from his ex, according to Chelsea, he showered her with gifts, ( including a car), he took her back after WBG, he told Cobra he loved that S O *, he married her, (even though he didn't marry the mothers of his children), according to her mom, he paid for her tattoo, and then they dealt drugs together. When looked at the whole picture, she seemed to have more of a hold on him, than he did her...but was it big enough for him to cover for her murdering his child? IDK, but after this happened, it sure didn't take long for him to get back with her. There was a reason she left and went to her mom's. Was it because of him suspecting her, or was it something else? Actually, it's been a long while since I've bought the idea of Misty covering for Ron-at least exclusively. Chelsea's story of Misty loving Ron so much or being scared of him, seemed so ridiculous, that it had the opposite effect, IMO. just made me more sure that Misty isn't covering for him. MOO

Dodie, my take on the Misty/Ron relationship: He let her think that she had a certain control over him, because he "loved' her so much. He let her think that the gifts were out of love for her, and that she had "taken' him from from another girl, etc. Then after Haleigh went missing, I think he married her because he needed to keep her silenced, and as a way to manipulate her into saying and doing what he needed her to do. I think Misty provided Ron with something he needed too, namely a baby-sitter, a very young girlfriend, etc. But I also believe that Misty was no inocent push-over either. He provided her whth what she needed. She finally fealt like she had a family, as it was, and was grownup and the "lady' of the house.She fealt like she "belonged" and was a part of the great Cummings family. I think they played off of each other, but in a very sick way. They both controled each other at different times. That was the relationship they enjoyed, even the fighting. Almost like a sick addiction. Of course that is JMO.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Jmo, Teresa is a loving mom and grandma and all she wants is to have HaLeigh home. I think ronald loved and trusted Misty, and believed her, until further along in the investigation it seems she was not telling the truth. I think Teresa and Annette and Ronald are all trying to figure out what could have happened to their precious HaLeigh

 

[Emeralgem]

Jmo, Teresa is a loving mom and grandma and all she wants is to have HaLeigh home. I think ronald loved and trusted Misty, and believed her, until further along in the investigation it seems she was not telling the truth. I think Teresa and Annette and Ronald are all trying to figure out what could have happened to their precious HaLeigh

JMHO.. I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree.
I also suspect Ronald C, his mother and his grandmother know exactly what happened to their precious Haleigh and where her remains are too...Hopefully, someone in the Croslin family will make a decision to tell exactly what it is they do know concerning what transpired that afternoon/evening .. And hopefully someone in LE will listen for once instead of saying they do not want to hear anything concerning Ron C being involved.....JMHO

 

[Chablis]

Jmo, Teresa is a loving mom and grandma and all she wants is to have HaLeigh home. I think ronald loved and trusted Misty, and believed her, until further along in the investigation it seems she was not telling the truth. I think Teresa and Annette and Ronald are all trying to figure out what could have happened to their precious HaLeigh

Yeah, but the thing here is, the cops told the world she was not being truthful and she was holding stuff back before they were all mugging for the cam in NY, 31 days after Haleigh went "missing'

And using logic, his last free day on earth for 15 years and hopefully life, was with his "baby" Misty, the gal who got Ronald Sr just above her butt crack AFTER their divorce.

We know for sure right this very second Ronald is not trying to figure out what happened to Haleigh, he is appealing and trying to get out of jail because he is only thinking of himself, or has there been anything from him pleaing for his daughter since he has been locked up? I can tell you for sure there has been nothing on his end.

If Teresa and Annette are still living in mystery, I wonder why they arent back in contact with Tim Miller,or doing anything pro Haleigh?

They all know.

 

[dodie20]

Jmo, Teresa is a loving mom and grandma and all she wants is to have HaLeigh home. I think ronald loved and trusted Misty, and believed her, until further along in the investigation it seems she was not telling the truth. I think Teresa and Annette and Ronald are all trying to figure out what could have happened to their precious HaLeigh

Misty wasn't the only one not telling the truth. For example...Ron said there was no fight over a gun, but just recently, as a part of his deal, finally admitted to the fight. Also, Misty isn't the only one who reportedly failed a LDT. Her brothers Tommy and Timmy along with Ron, (according to Art Harris sources), also all supposedly failed. MOO.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Yeah, but the thing here is, the cops told the world she was not being truthful and she was holding stuff back before they were all mugging for the cam in NY, 31 days after Haleigh went "missing'

And using logic, his last free day on earth for 15 years and hopefully life, was with his "baby" Misty, the gal who got Ronald Sr just above her butt crack AFTER their divorce.

We know for sure right this very second Ronald is not trying to figure out what happened to Haleigh, he is appealing and trying to get out of jail because he is only thinking of himself, or has there been anything from him pleaing for his daughter since he has been locked up? I can tell you for sure there has been nothing on his end.

If Teresa and Annette are still living in mystery, I wonder why they arent back in contact with Tim Miller,or doing anything pro Haleigh?

They all know.

We can agree to disagree, we clearly don't share the same opinions.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Misty wasn't the only one not telling the truth. For example...Ron said there was no fight over a gun, but just recently, as a part of his deal, finally admitted to the fight. Also, Misty isn't the only one who reportedly failed a LDT. Her brothers Tommy and Timmy along with Ron, (according to Art Harris sources), also all supposedly failed. MOO.

I don't believe Ron failed, and don't believe Art's "sources". Jmo

 

[Whisperer]

Logic will get in the way everytime if people base their opinion on emotion.

 

[krkrjx]

I don't believe Ron failed, and don't believe Art's "sources". Jmo

Is the reason you don't believe Ron failed because his failing was reported by AH?

Do you believe Misty failed? Misty failing was reported by AH as well.

Do you believe Ron passed because Ron said he passed? Ron also said Misty passed.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Is the reason you don't believe Ron failed because his failing was reported by AH?

Do you believe Misty failed? Misty failing was reported by AH as well.

Do you believe Ron passed because Ron said he passed? Ron also said Misty passed.

I actually go with what LE says. I don't believe Art's reporting, didn't realize he now says Ron failed.

 

[dodie20]

I don't believe Ron failed, and don't believe Art's "sources". Jmo

Well, since Art went out on a limb and made such a bold statement, I believe he was told by his sources that Ron failed. IDK who his sources are, but I'm not going to just assume they're liars. If the sources had said Ron passed, I would've been surprised, but would've believed that too, at least until there was a retraction. These LDTs are tricky evidence, because as far as I know, LE has never released anybody's results...but Misty's 'results' have been all over the news, and Ill also keep believing those sources until there's a retraction. MOO.

 

[Emeralgem]

I actually go with what LE says. I don't believe Art's reporting, didn't realize he now says Ron failed.

Last I heard LE stated Haleigh's father has not told everything he knows about what happened that afternoon/evening...JMHO

 

[krkrjx]

I actually go with what LE says. I don't believe Art's reporting, didn't realize he now says Ron failed.

OK, then...I am sure you are aware that LE's most recent statement was that they have known since day one that the contradictory statements of family members are not the truth.

IOW, LE now says that Haleigh's family members have been lying for the past two years, from the first day of the investigation. That means more than one lie by more than one family member.

 

[Whisperer]

I actually go with what LE says. I don't believe Art's reporting, didn't realize he now says Ron failed.

According to thie above statement:

1. LE has been accurate in all their reporting and is to be believed.
2. Nothing is to be believed that Art Harris says.

Since LE said the first call about Haleigh came in at 2:13 and that TN was there at 7:30, must be accurate. LE also said RC arrived home at3:00am and woke misty up and told her Haleigh was gone. LE also said they were satisfied with both polys.

So did rc really arrive at 3:00am? Did misty really pass a poly? Was Tn really there earlier in the evening? Did they really receive a call @2:13am about Haleigh missing? According to the precdent above, all these things must be true..

 

[Flossie JMO]

Well, since Art went out on a limb and made such a bold statement, I believe he was told by his sources that Ron failed. IDK who his sources are, but I'm not going to just assume they're liars. If the sources had said Ron passed, I would've been surprised, but would've believed that too, at least until there was a retraction. These LDTs are tricky evidence, because as far as I know, LE has never released anybody's results...but Misty's 'results' have been all over the news, and Ill also keep believing those sources until there's a retraction. MOO.

That's new from Art, he's been pretty consistent in the past regarding Ron. There won't be a retraction imo, un named "sources" won't be concerned imo. Do you have a link btw?

 

[Flossie JMO]

OK, then...I am sure you are aware that LE's most recent statement was that they have known since day one that the contradictory statements of family members are not the truth.

IOW, LE now says that Haleigh's family members have been lying for the past two years, from the first day of the investigation. That means more than one lie by more than one family member.

Yes that I'm aware of. I don't believe they mean Ron.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Yes that I'm aware of. I don't believe they mean Ron.

I'm curious, who do you beleive the more that one family members are, and what do you think the lies could be?

 

[Emeralgem]

Yes that I'm aware of. I don't believe they mean Ron.

IMO.. I suspect they mean Ron especially since LE has recently stated they do not believe he has told everything he knows...IMO they are well aware of the fact he has not told the truth. IMO.. Lies of omission are STILL lies.JMHO

 

[Flossie JMO]

I'm curious, who do you beleive the more that one family members are, and what do you think the lies could be?

I think only LE knows, or rather suspects.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I think only LE knows, or rather suspects.

do you have any theories on that?