Titanic tourist sub goes missing in Atlantic Ocean, June 2023

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'Remote' area makes search complex​

Mauger has described the area in which the search is taking place as "remote", making operations difficult.
"Often times we rely on commercial operators to be the first vessels to be on scene," he said, adding that the US Coast Guard has been in touch with vessels in the area.
He added the search is made even more complex by the fact that the missing vessel may have not resurfaced, forcing the coast guard to use sonar to search under the sea's surface.

Admiral Mauger says it's a 'locate and rescue' mission​

Rear Adm. John Mauger of the US Coast Guard says the force is doing everything it can do to "locate and rescue" those onboard the missing submersible.
The Coast Guard has been conducted a service search, as well as using aircraft of the area.
The Canadian Armed Forces is also deploying forces to the scene.

 

LIVE: Titanic tourist submarine missing - Oceangate vessel disappears on Atlantic Ocean expedition


From those live updates:

CEO of OceanGate thought to be onboard missing submarine
Stockton Rush, the CEO and founder of OceanGate Expeditions, which operated the trip, is feared to be on board the missing submarine, Sky News reported.

The crew was also expected to include veteran French explorer PH Nargeolet, a pre-eminent expert on the Titanic who has led a number of expeditions to the ship's wreckage.
 

Search should be in small radius - expert​


Dr Jamie Pringle, who is a reader in forensic geosciences at Keele University, says the ocean floor is a lot more rugged than on land - and there are different stratified levels of water.

“A typical land search for a missing person or vehicle would move outwards radially from the last known position. This is how this search is also likely being conducted.
“Techniques vary, but in that water depth, a sonar search system would need to be specialised to a very narrow beam but high enough frequency in order to resolve a small submersible”.
Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, which was lost in 2014 over the South China Sea, had a very large search radius and what happened to it still remains a mystery, Dr Pringle adds.
“This search should be a much smaller search radius, as the submersible was reportedly on a relatively simple down and up dive.”


We don't know where the submersible is - expert​

Robert Blasiak - an ocean researcher with the Stockholm Resilience Centre - outlined the tough conditions facing the search teams.
"The ocean on average is about four kilometres deep so this [submersible] is at great depth," Blasiak told the BBC.
He added that light only penetrates up to about one kilometre into the ocean's surface, so that's in 'pitch black and water pressures of about 400 atmospheres'.
Blasiak described the challenges for OceanGate's Titan submersible craft in reaching the wreck of the Titanic:
Quote Message: We know where the Titanic is, but we don't know where the submersible is. So it could be that it's nowhere near that depth and that's what we should all hope for at this time."
We know where the Titanic is, but we don't know where the submersible is. So it could be that it's nowhere near that depth and that's what we should all hope for at this time."

US Coast Guard confirms five on submarine missing for more than a day​

The US Coast Guard has confirmed there were five people onboard the submarine vessel, which it says has been missing since Sunday morning local time.
In a series of Twitter posts, the Coast Guard described the submarine as being 21 feet (6.4m) in length.
It went missing more than 24 hours ago, on Sunday morning, about one hour and 45 minutes into its dive.
Both US and Canadian naval surveillance aircraft are currently searching for it, including a highly-sophisticated P8 Poseidon aircraft with underwater detection capabilities.

 

Between 70 and 96 hours of emergency oxygen left​

The missing submarine was designed with 96 hour "emergency capability," Rear Adm. John Mauger tells media.
That means the vessel has 96 hours of oxygen in reserve if there is an emergency.
"We anticipate there is somewhere between 70 and the full 96 hours available at this point," Mauger says.

 

What the company said​

Here's a reminder of the short statement we got from OceanGate, the operator of the missing vessel.
• We are exploring and mobilising all options to bring the crew back safely
• Our entire focus is on the crew members in the submersible and their families
• We are deeply thankful for the extensive assistance we have received from several government agencies and deep sea companies in our efforts to reestablish contact with the submersible
• We are working toward the safe return of the crew members

 

What might have happened to the missing vessel?​

Pallab Ghosh
Science correspondent

Prof Alistair Greig from University College London is an expert on submarines. He has worked through a number of scenarios for where the missing submersible might be.

One is that it released a “drop weight” after an emergency, in order to bring it to the surface.
“If there was a power failure and or communication failure, this might have happened, and the submersible would then be bobbing about on the surface waiting to be found."

Another scenario, he says, is that the hull was compromised resulting in a leak. “Then the prognosis is not good.”

If it has gone down to the seabed and can’t get back up under its own power, the options - according to Prof Greig - are very limited.

“While the submersible might still be intact, if it is deeper than more than 200m (656ft) there are very few vessels that can get that deep, and certainly not divers.

“The vehicles designed for navy submarine rescue certainly can’t get down to anywhere near the depth of the Titanic.

"And even if they could, I very much doubt that they could attach to the hatch of the tourist submersible.”

 
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From NewsNation broadcast.

Hope is that the sub lost power and is bobbing on the surface.

The sub is bolted from the outside. If they are bobbing on the surface, they can't exit the exit the sub until the hatch bolts are removed from the outside.



JMO
 
From NewsNation broadcast.

Hope is that the sub lost power and is bobbing on the surface.

The sub is bolted from the outside. If they are bobbing on the surface, they can't exit the exit the sub until the hatch bolts are removed from the outside.



JMO
Terrifying that the sub is ocean-coloured rather than hi-viz in this scenario.
 
Interesting account here from someone who’s done the trip:


The disclaimer “This experimental vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, emotional trauma, or death”. Yeah I’ll pass, thanks. Crikey.
Why would anyone read that and still want to go? Unbelievable.

I really hope they find them but I honestly would be surprised if they were alive.
 
Some older subs did have tethers, but they could become tangled and cause problems. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.
When Bob Ballard was recording and inspecting the wreckage of the Titanic there was concern that Alvin's (submersible) cables would become tangled in debris.

Edit - I am a huge Bob Ballard fan.
 
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*There are some really awesome photos here

According to experts' various theories, the decayed bow of the famous ship could collapse in a ...

According to experts' various theories, the decayed bow of the famous ship could collapse in a year or two, or hundreds of years.
*btw: Hulu is playing Titanic 25 years later
 
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Being serious...but there is toilet :oops: right?
There is a small toilet located in Titan’s front dome – it doubles as the best seat in the house. When the toilet is in use, we install a privacy curtain between the dome and the main compartment and turn the music up loud.

We do recommend that you restrict your diet before and during the dive to reduce the likelihood that you will need to use the facilities.
 
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