TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #22

[TxLady2]

He also mentioned that it could be that they don't want to taint their questioning of locals. If they truly believe the person is in the community, if certain information is leaked it can help "prepare" a perp for questioning. For example, not releasing the 911 call. No one including the perp knows what exactly the brother saw, or what the second 911 caller heard/saw. That kind of information can be used in questioning potential suspects and in shaky terms, used as leverage/bluff. In his opinion, he thinks the brother saw more of this "guy" than what is being reported and with the protection that was placed around the house....possibly could pick him out of a line up. LE just has to find out who "he" is.
When I mentioned that if the brother got that good of a look at his face, and LE thinks he was known to HB, shouldn't the brother be able to identify him. My buddy told me that even in small town, given that both HB and her brother are young, there is no way they are familiar/know EVERYBODY. It could very well be someone who knew HB but not necessarily the other way around. HE compared it to a smaller high school, and asked if I right after my HS graduation would be able to identify by name a sophmore (whom I should have seen everyday for two years) from 50 yards away....

We used to do an exercise at work, where they flashed a picture of a person for a few seconds and then had everyone write down a description. When comparing them, there were as many variations of descriptions as there were people in the room. No two were identical.
One person can say a person's hair color is light brown, while another would say it is sandy. Another can say the person was 6 ft. tall, and another would guess them to be 5 ft. 10 in. One could say the person was stocky and another would say he was of medium build.
And if the brother knows his sister's height, he might be estimating the guy's height in comparison to his sister's. However, much depends on the shoes he was wearing, or whether he was standing straight or slouching. And he may not have seen him for more than a minute or less, or paid much attention at the time he saw them. It's hard to give an accurate description if you don't know that you are supposed to remember an hour later.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Eyewitnesses are notoriously bad at even the most basic details, especially 1) when they arent expecting to see something 2) when they think they know what they are looking at and dont pay attention 3) when what they see is outside and away from some sort of item that you can use to judge scales.

I watched a show on TV about reported sightings of big cats in areas where big cats dont normally or naturally live. All of the purported photos and videos turned out to be house cats. Put a house cat in tall grass, away from their normal house environment, and people cant tell its a house cat and not a puma or panther. Its the same with a lot of bigfoot photos. Someone points out what looks like Bigfoot standing behind a tree or in the brush. But on further investigation of the site, the item in question is a two foot tall tree stump or cypress knee. Not a 9 foot tall ape.

 

[Oriah]

Very true.

Some people do remember details more accurately than others, but those people are usually the people who have to do it for work/business- or simply have that inclination, I guess. Most people seem to not pay attention to small details at all, and have a hard time recollecting anything other than vague details- or are incorrect in their recollection.

Doesn't make anyone guilty at all- just makes it harder to find a missing person.

We used to do an exercise at work, where they flashed a picture of a person for a few seconds and then had everyone write down a description. When comparing them, there were as many variations of descriptions as there were people in the room. No two were identical.
One person can say a person's hair color is light brown, while another would say it is sandy. Another can say the person was 6 ft. tall, and another would guess them to be 5 ft. 10 in. One could say the person was stocky and another would say he was of medium build.
And if the brother knows his sister's height, he might be estimating the guy's height in comparison to his sister's. However, much depends on the shoes he was wearing, or whether he was standing straight or slouching. And he may not have seen him for more than a minute or less, or paid much attention at the time he saw them. It's hard to give an accurate description if you don't know that you are supposed to remember an hour later.

 

[shefner]

Holly, we are still waiting for you to come home.....

 

[Abba's Tears]

Abba Father,

We cannot comprehend how such things happen. But they do; over and over again. Our hearts ache for Holly and all of the missing; but our hurt cannot compare to the pain You feel and the tears You shed when even one of Your children is lost. We hope against hope that somehow they will be returned home, at the same time we mourn with their families and friends as days, months, and even years pass by.

Our efforts to unravel the tangled web of what has happened to Holly and the others is intense, well intentioned, and so very frustrating. If they could be brought home by shear will and love, no one would be gone for more than a brief moment in time. Although we are not capable of such a thing, You are. Merciful Father, surround these innocent victims and their families with your mercy, grace, and love. Fill them with Your strength, and keep their eyes turned to You. You are the only way to survive such devistation. As long as we have You, there is hope. Bring them home Abba, please bring them home.

In Your Holy Son Jesus' name, Amen

 

[sumzero]

Amen.

 

[AlexLouise44]

Who is abba?

 

[stilettos]

Who is abba?

It is hebrew and means Father.

 

[annboleyn2011]

Were any articles of clothing found in any of the searches? I know no one is saying anything but I was just wondering out loud? Hypothetically speaking, if there were, would they not want this known to the public? If so, what could their reason be? Do they feel if people believe she is dead if clothing is found, that people would be more less likely to search their properties?

 

[concentric]

To my understanding, we don't have a LE statement saying that clothing was found. This is only opinion: There has been some conjecture that possibly the last item found could have been her t-shirt, only because it may have been visible from a roadway.

 

[JustyThoughts]

This isn't the first time I've seen someone suggest this guy, but I think I missed something. Why would this guy be involved? The only info I know about him is what's at the above link, but he is a family annhilator, so the MO is very different and he's from the complete opposite side of the country. He's not at all the local boy turned abductor that LE is describing. ??????? When you say he matches a lot of similar reports, what does that mean? Were there reportings of him being in Tennessee???

May be just a long shot; but since our wealth of knowledge about the abductor is at about zero, nada, nothing.... he seems as good as anyone to consider.

The curious things pointed out about him in my opinion is... he is on the run, has survivalist skills, his listed birthday is April 13 (hummm) and the time he allegedly killed his family & blew up his home was around April 10th. Maybe the date is some trigger, or maybe it is random that the dates align with Holly's disappearance. May be something, may be nuttin.

 

[concentric]

There is another fugitive, as I mentioned multiple times earlier, that has a very similar profile, but lived in an adjoining state to Tennessee.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Here's an article that mentions that Holly was wearing tennis shoes.

http://midsouthnewz.com/news/midsouth-regional-news/thp-qnew-tacticsq-in-holly-bobo-search.html

Also talks about Nickell and his arrest on April 18.

 

[concentric]

I think we've arrived at some commonalities in our thinking:

Sex offenders released into a community should be thoroughly investigated.

If a fugitive is that successful at remaining "fugitive" he is very capable at hiding.

Some abductors have few, if any: "priors". So, it could be someone very new to a life of crime, who has some "suspicious" markers.

I would appreciate any of our sleuths to expand on or extrapolate on the above categories of offenders.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Here's the article wherein the residence of Nickell is discussed regarding the proximity to Bobo's residence through the woods.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...mes-to-small-tight-knit-community-safety-tips

 

[cluciano63]

Here's an article that mentions that Holly was wearing tennis shoes.

http://midsouthnewz.com/news/midsouth-regional-news/thp-qnew-tacticsq-in-holly-bobo-search.html

Also talks about Nickell and his arrest on April 18.

On an arrest log from Jackson County I came across last night, he was listed on 4/16 so not really sure when he was arrested.

 

[concentric]

Here's the article wherein the residence of Nickell is discussed regarding the proximity to Bobo's residence through the woods.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...mes-to-small-tight-knit-community-safety-tips

Hi, Woe be gone,

I have posted that I think responses following any music videos with Holly's cousin be looked into.

While I cannot say that anything is connected, I note that there is at least one very disturbing comment posted. I suggested that LE look into these comments to see whether or not they were posted by the same person who would be suspect to Holly's dissapearance. One of the comments was in essence:
you don't know what I would do to her (the cousin).
I am a victim and I know what a victimizer would say.

 

[concentric]

On an arrest log from Jackson County I came across last night, he was listed on 4/16 so not really sure when he was arrested.

I posted the arrest date from a news source earlier on these threads.

 

[cluciano63]

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/9...st-Report-database?appSession=686295375745323

This is where I saw the date of 4/16, a Saturday, and then the articles first appeared on 4/18.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

This list of arrests has Nickell listed as being arrested on April 16, three days after Holly's abduction.

http://www.cityofjackson.net/departments/police/dailyarrests.html