TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #26

[Oriah]

Deanna Lambert, please correct your tweet.
I believe you are referring to Holly Bobo.

Gah. While I understand auto correct and typos... please make sure you have correct spelling on the names of missing persons. :banghead:

@WSMVDeanna Deanna Lambert

Coming up on @todayshow...

Holly Hobo's mother appeals to @BarackObama for help.

#hollybobo

30 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/WSMVDeanna/status/99809735578095616

 

[mag84]

"As far as a lunch bag found that far away, I believe that was just a decoy to maybe lead them away from where they really went," he said.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/15215220/man-wanted-for-quesioning-in-holly-bobo-case-arrested

Ok, I have 3 pages to catch up on, so if this has already been said, but hasn't this same thing been said here over and over again I don't know how many times? And it took them 3-1/2 months to think maybe so... :banghead:

 

[BeanE]

I know... am kidding. The whole turkey thing is weird/funny

But getting back to the garage... ok how did he see them in there? Did Clint open a door and look in? The garage is attached to the house. Was a door open and he looked in? I would think if he had opened a door the people in the garage would have seen him. Were they kneeling to hide? Kneeling doing something else? Kneeling because Holly had been injured? And it might be an issue of semantics but were they kneeling or squatting? there is a difference. I'd think you would squat down quickly or to do something quickly... kneel if you were going to be there a while. Could Clint have interrupted the assault or a possible sexual assault? How did the man get into the garage? It seems, based on proior discussions and the few photos of the front of the house, to be enclosed. So did he break in?

Is there a garage/carport on the back of the house near the pool? Do we have any pics with that view of the house? Looking from the pool area at the back of the house? I can't find any.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Is there a garage/carport on the back of the house near the pool? Do we have any pics with that view of the house? Looking from the pool area at the back of the house? I can't find any.

It is my understanding (based on the old convos here with one of hte locals) that the "garage" is the area to the left of the head of the driveway and that it is enclosed and may be used as living or storage space and not as a car garage per se.

There may be a pitched roof car port behind that. In the one photo from yesterday there is a car parked back behind what I believe is the garage in front of a pitched roof structure.

A real floor plan of the house would be good. I recall perhaps a TV video that had a chopper view that sort of circled or panned over part of the house. If I found that again I could try to get a frame grab.

I know the big pool in the back is above ground and high so Clint could not see out in that direction.

 

[BeanE]

It is my understanding (based on the old convos here with one of hte locals) that the "garage" is the area to the left of the head of the driveway and that it is enclosed and may be used as living or storage space and not as a car garage per se.

There may be a pitched roof car port behind that. In the one photo from yesterday there is a car parked back behind what I believe is the garage in front of a pitched roof structure.

A real floor plan of the house would be good. I recall perhaps a TV video that had a chopper view that sort of circled or panned over part of the house. If I found that again I could try to get a frame grab.

I know the big pool in the back is above ground and high so Clint could not see out in that direction.

Yep I know about the converted garage. I'm just wondering about the back of the house. I'm going to dig some more for pics of the back of the house.

 

[~n/t~]

Yep I know about the converted garage. I'm just wondering about the back of the house. I'm going to dig some more for pics of the back of the house.

I found a photobucket page with some pics. Am I allowed to post the link?

 

[BeanE]

Holly's family on the Today Show this morning:

TODAY Video Player

 

[Cheewawa007]

The brother calling his Mom doesn't strike me as odd... waking up to a barking dog and hearing voices coming from the garage, perhaps he thought they were employees from the family owned business stopping by the house to pick something up or drop something off. I know when I first wake up I'm in a fog for at least 15 minutes before I am fully awake.

 

[evelyn24]

He's 25 and he was there and his mom was working. Why not just walk out and ask?
If he were a kid, like 15 or something, maybe the call to his mom makes more sense.

jmo

 

[concentric]

BBM

Where in the interview does it state that he's tattling? I'm not finding it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/04/ijvm.01.html

I must have by mistake had some info. in my mind from some other news article or comment and thought it was from the transcript. I do remember reading that somewhere. I'm glad you pointed that out to me. I would not want to be in error.

 

[concentric]

Holly's family on the Today Show this morning:

TODAY Video Player

Thanks for that. But, why don't these reporters ask to clarify some of the prior media reports??? Like was the garage that Clint was talking about, actually the carport? And, yes, someone did post a view of the back of the house where there was a carport, and opposite to that, a storage shed-type building.

While it was good to see the family and hear what they had to say, these reporters need to ask more in-depth questions, IMO.

One point I thought interesting was Holly's mom asking for the President's help. IMO, she sees the national attention and agencies brought in for other missing person's cases and says that they need more help. I think they didn't get that national response for many reasons; but one, that stands out to me is that their town is not on a border to another country.

From my POV, that broadcast was a big: nothing that we didn't know.

 

[BeanE]

The brother calling his Mom doesn't strike me as odd... waking up to a barking dog and hearing voices coming from the garage, perhaps he thought they were employees from the family owned business stopping by the house to pick something up or drop something off. I know when I first wake up I'm in a fog for at least 15 minutes before I am fully awake.

I see nothing odd or suspicious about it either. It makes perfect sense. You call and see if there's a reason for people to be out there, rather than running outside in your jammies.

 

[concentric]

Is there a garage/carport on the back of the house near the pool? Do we have any pics with that view of the house? Looking from the pool area at the back of the house? I can't find any.

Yes, I remember seeing a photo on here that distinctly showed the back of the house with a carport and across from that, a shed of some kind.

Wasn't the enclosed garage, made room, in the front of the house?

OK, I may be all screwed up.

 

[scorekeeper]

A convicted sex offender wanted for questioning in the Holly Bobo case has been arrested in Minnesota.

However, investigators are downplaying any connection to the missing 20-year-old woman.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44038343/ns/local_news-nashville_tn/

Caught the tail end of this story on MSNBC.

 

[katydid23]

Because she was terrified? Threatened? Wounded? Stunned? Shocked? Traumatized?

I am not being critical of Holly, just trying to understand CB's timeline and version of events. If he heard voices for so long, it seems like she had enough time to scream for help. She knew CB had loaded hunting weapons inside.

His story just sounds so convoluted and odd to me. It really does. His dog is barking like crazy, there are strange voices in the garage, and his little sister had just stepped out the front door. Why not just look into the garage and say who is there? Calling the mom seems so strange given the immediacy of the situation.

 

[concentric]

Hi. I posted this in the beginning of the case. Where is this fugitive from SC?

http://www.usmarshals.gov/investigations/most_wanted/hiers/poster.htm

 

[katydid23]

I see nothing odd or suspicious about it either. It makes perfect sense. You call and see if there's a reason for people to be out there, rather than running outside in your jammies.

The reason I find it odd is that his little sister had just stepped out the front door moments earlier. So it was more urgent than a call to mom. It required immediate action on his part. Just a quick look and a shout to sister, Are you OK? He saw her walklng away--he could have said Hey Holly--what's up?

 

[helpfindthemissing]

I wish they would do real interviews instead of TV'views...

Following the interview...cb claims he was inside the house and did not have any idea who was in the garage:

C. BOBO: I saw the silhouette of two people in our garage. At the time I had no idea who either one of the people were. And then come to realize later that that was my sister and her abductor.​

----

C. BOBO: No, I saw them from inside the house and they were outside the house in the garage.​

----
Next cb indicates he called his mom because he didn't know was in the garage. Oddly, after his mom tells him Holly is supposed to be in school it suddenly occurs to him it was her, not a stranger, in the garage.....

C. BOBO: And then I got in touch with my mom and found out that Holly was supposed to be in school that morning and realized that that must have been her at the house and then I looked back out and saw Holly and a male walking toward the woods and that`s the last time I saw her.​

----
I would have thought an adult male would have opened the door and asked the unknown individuals wth they were doing in the garage. I would have. But not every one is like me so he called his mom.

The more I read the more baffled. Now he realized it was HB (presumably because of call to mom..see above) and he tell is mom they "were" in the garage. Not the are in the garage, but were. Why would he relay that instead of saying "I just saw HB and D walk into the woods?"

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So you`re saying you were able to call your mom before they left the garage and after you called your mom you see them walking toward the woods?

C. BOBO: Right. And I told my mom that once I realized it was Holly, I said well, Holly and Drew which is her boyfriend were out in the garage talking.​

----
but it is about here I just can't put it all together. cb at some point, did go into the garage and found the blood. Following the information provided he would have checked out the garage AFTER he heard voices, called his mother, and seen them go into the woods.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So where did you find the blood?

C. BOBO: It was in the garage, under where I saw the silhouette of them knelled down in the garage.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: When you saw them kneeling down did you think to ask them or approach them? How far away were you?​

Now here is the kicker....the question is when you saw them kneeling did you think to approach them. In spite of having told us clearly (above) he had no idea who they were at that time, he now says he did not approach them because he thought it was HB and D????

C. BOBO: No, I assumed -- I was inside the house and I assumed that that was Holly and her boyfriend Drew and he was dressed in full camouflage so I thought that Drew had been to the woods and killed a turkey and brought it back to the house and the two were sitting there over the turkey talking. After I saw the blood, I thought that was blood of a turkey that Drew had killed.​

----
Is cb a hunter himself? I would think most people with an interest in hunting would have wanted to see the prize turkey.

<sigh> I just wish they would find her...about once a week I'll think this is the day...but it never really is (so much for intuition)!

I just had the oppertunity to watch the clip of the interview for the first time and WOW is it so much different than reading a transcript! The only thing that popped out as odd in the video (around the 225 mark) is when he is talking about the other person in full camo. He stated it as if he knew the man was in camo, BEFORE he was seen in the garage, as you stated above in the transcript. How is that possible?

Did they have more than 1 dog? He said he awoke to the house dog barking.

I do not think CB has any type of disability or disorder.

 

[concentric]

I am not being critical of Holly, just trying to understand CB's timeline and version of events. If he heard voices for so long, it seems like she had enough time to scream for help. She knew CB had loaded hunting weapons inside.

His story just sounds so convoluted and odd to me. It really does. His dog is barking like crazy, there are strange voices in the garage, and his little sister had just stepped out the front door. Why not just look into the garage and say who is there? Calling the mom seems so strange given the immediacy of the situation.

---------------------

JMO: Some people just don't have the life experience/knowledge/awareness to suppose that a crime could be taking place.

However, now they do know.

 

[helpfindthemissing]

The reason I find it odd is that his little sister had just stepped out the front door moments earlier. So it was more urgent than a call to mom. It required immediate action on his part. Just a quick look and a shout to sister, Are you OK? He saw her walklng away--he could have said Hey Holly--what's up?

Thats the second time someone has referenced HB leaving a few moments earlier.... Is there an article on that? If CB was sleeping, how does he know at what time she walked outside?