TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #26

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  • #481
Is the vertical gray line a major hwy? what is the name of this street, road, hwy? I wish we had a layout of the inside. CH said he saw the people in the garage from the kitchen window. Many times a pool is located near the kitchen...but Clint said he saw the shadows from the kitchen. What part of the house was he in when he saw them go in the woods?

The garage is attached to the house. AFAIK he never said anything about seeing them in the garage through the kitchen window. I assume he was in the house looking through the garage door or perhaps there is some sort of inside cut out or window to the garage? To see North you would have to look out the windows on the north end of the house (if there are windows on that side) or from the front windows looking sharply to the North.. You could not see much/anything at all from the back because of the pool.
 
  • #482
Ummm, I hate to keep saying this- but I believe we may be making more work for all of our wonderful mods on Websleuths.

Can we go back to where Holly might be?
The FBI thinks she was:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/holly-bobo/view

<Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen early on the morning of April 13, 2011, outside of her home in Darden, Tennessee. She was seen being led away from the carport of her home toward a wooded area by a man described as approximately 5'8" to 6'0" tall and 200 pounds, wearing camouflage clothing>

Are we clear on which 'wooded area' we are talking about here?
 
  • #483
It's interesting that the BF is not mentioned more.

-Clint thought the guy he saw WAS the BF.

-The BF and Holly had apparently JUST broke up.

-The BF seems to fit the size description.


Now they may have absolute confirmation that the BF could not have been involved, but like most of this.....we just don't know.


Clint did think camo man was the b/f

There is no evidence that Holly and the b/f ever broke up and based on statements made by the b/f's grandmother (?) they were planning on getting married.

the b/f does not fit the description of the suspect; shrimpy kid about Hollys size. also most photos saying "holly and her b/f" are really holly and clint.
 
  • #484
I assume the person who heard the scream was interviewed as LE has mentioned them/it/their phone call.
Who is CH?
CB did not hear the screams aparently.


THe vertical road in the photo is the road the Bobo's live on. I think its Swan Johnson Road?


Thank you. I suppose. the house sits far back from the road. The driveway almost touches Swan Johnson..

Looks like a large property. Clint did not hear the scream but a neighbor did? How far away does the neighbor live. This place looks desolate.

CH=typo. Clint Bobo

I was asking if the neighbor who heard the scream was interviewed on camera.
 
  • #485
Ummm, I hate to keep saying this- but I believe we may be making more work for all of our wonderful mods on Websleuths.

Can we go back to where Holly might be?
The FBI thinks she was:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/holly-bobo/view

<Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen early on the morning of April 13, 2011, outside of her home in Darden, Tennessee. She was seen being led away from the carport of her home toward a wooded area by a man described as approximately 5'8" to 6'0" tall and 200 pounds, wearing camouflage clothing>

Are we clear on which 'wooded area' we are talking about here?

Yes I mentioned in several posts this afternoon with photos indicating north, the direction Clint said they were going. The house itself runs Norhthish/southish and the north end is past where the pool is (on the west side)
 
  • #486
Is the vertical gray line a major hwy? what is the name of this street, road, hwy? I wish we had a layout of the inside. CH said he saw the people in the garage from the kitchen window. Many times a pool is located near the kitchen...but Clint said he saw the shadows in the garage from the kitchen. What part of the house was he in when he saw them go in the woods?

The grey line is Swan Johnson Rd. It is a two lane road- meaning traffic goes both directions. There are no dividers on it.
 
  • #487
Thank you. I suppose. the house sits far back from the road. The driveway almost touches Swan Johnson..

Looks like a large property. Clint did not hear the scream but a neighbor did? How far away does the neighbor live. This place looks desolate.

the driveway does touch the road. In the original photo the road itself is not distinct so I just drew in a grey line. there are photos floating around showing the mail box. road, etc. More recently the Bobos put up a big fence.

They are out in the middle of nowhere. If you were in the house and someone half a mile away in the woods screamed you probably wouldnt hear them. The neighbor was outside at the time.
 
  • #488
Most photos (even on some MSM sites) that say "Holly and her boyfriend" are of Holly and Clint. I think I have just seen one photo of him (Drew) and he is not 6' 200 lbs that I recall.
 
  • #489
Before anyone can guess where she might be, it would be helpful to know exactly what happened prior to disappearing.

I am confused about the events prior to disappearance. The scream and the blood would seem likely she didn't walk compliantly to the woods. I have no idea where she is...I don't even know what to believe.

If I assume that what was told is precise, then it appears she walked with a male to a vehicle hidden in the woods. Are there paths in the woods? Good chance vehicle is a truck...and the person had a knife or gun with him. Once in a vehicle, how do you track that if you don't have any idea who the perp is?

It is necessary to profile her closest relatives and friends. I have not followed this case. I turned on the TV two days ago and that was the first time I ever saw the family. The interview was odd. Something seemed amiss...lots of anxiety.
 
  • #490
DS and Holly. This is the original pic I wanted to post above.

holly-and-boyfriend-camouflage.230.jpg
 
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DS and Holly. This is the original pic I wanted to post above.

holly-and-boyfriend-camouflage.230.jpg

Isn't that Clint?

I could not find the one photo of DS and his family all together not on a site I can't post to. But its out there. Not sure about the first picture.
 
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Before anyone can guess where she might be, it would be helpful to know exactly what happened prior to disappearing.

I am confused about the events prior to disappearance. The scream and the blood would seem likely she didn't walk compliantly to the woods. I have no idea where she is...I don't even know what to believe.

If I assume that what was told is precise, then it appears she walked with a male to a vehicle hidden in the woods. Are there paths in the woods? Good chance vehicle is a truck...and the person had a knife or gun with him. Once in a vehicle, how do you track that if you don't have any idea who the perp is?

It is necessary to profile her closest relatives and friends. I have not followed this case. I turned on the TV two days ago and that was the first time I ever saw the family. The interview was odd. Something seemed amiss...lots of anxiety.

The family was silent for the first 3.5 months and just relased a short hand written statement of thanks to the media. Recently they have done some TV interviews.

Substantial parts of the story have changed in this time period. For example we now know Clint saw Holly and camo man TWICE and that the initial events happened in the garage (which was never mentioned at all prior to now). The story basically is coming out in bits and pieces and not always sequentially.

In the interview the other nite on JVM, Clint said that there were trails in the woods and a logging road. LE and the family suspects some vehicle was used.

Holly may have screamed at some point after she had been walked into the woods and/or driven some distance from her house which would be a reason why Clint did not hear anything.
 
  • #496
Most photos (even on some MSM sites) that say "Holly and her boyfriend" are of Holly and Clint. I think I have just seen one photo of him (Drew) and he is not 6' 200 lbs that I recall.

I don't know what you mean. Many of the MSM photos were labeled in the beginning as Holly and Clint when in fact it was really Holly and Drew.
Almost all of the photos I have seen are of Drew and Holly.
 
  • #497
The garage is attached to the house. AFAIK he never said anything about seeing them in the garage through the kitchen window. I assume he was in the house looking through the garage door or perhaps there is some sort of inside cut out or window to the garage? To see North you would have to look out the windows on the north end of the house (if there are windows on that side) or from the front windows looking sharply to the North.. You could not see much/anything at all from the back because of the pool.

..I thought I heard him tell JVM that he saw the two shadows in the garage from the kitchen window. I'll have to check. That is why I would like a layout of the house.
 
  • #498
I don't know what you mean. Many of the MSM photos were labeled in the beginning as Holly and Clint when in fact it was really Holly and Drew.
Almost all of the photos I have seen are of Drew and Holly.

cool I know there was confusion initially as to who was who.

Still Drew does not seem to be this big 6' 200 pounder. He may be shorter than me...

Likewise, the arrested RSO does not match the description of the suspect either.
 
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I don't think Holly was taken away by a "survivalist" or mountain man, etc. because he must have had a vehicle, first of all, since the lunch pail turned up so many miles away and also because Holly surely would have screamed sooner, IMO, if an unfamiliar camo-man came at her out of nowhere. I think she recognized this person, whether she knew him well or not, and that is why he was able to get close to her initially without her screaming, and why it sounded to Clint like they were talking.
 
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