TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

[Kaybug]

this case just wears on me... nothing has been right about it since day 1 and the more information that comes out (not from LE) the worse I feel...

I agree 100% with nothing has been right since day 1. I have not paid much attention, but some, to information coming out. I've had my beliefs since day 1, just kind of waiting it out now to see who is charged and all.

 

[JeannieC]

Y'all are way better at this technical stuff than I am, so I haven't contributed to the mapping projects and I'm probably wrong here and don't want to step on anyone's toes, but ... aren't they in Decatur County?

The Decatur Sheriff is working on the case so I thought she lived in Decatur. When I looked up Darden this what I got so now I am confused!

Darden is a community or populated place (Class Code U5) located in Henderson County at latitude 35.638 and longitude -88.217 (Darden Panoramio Photos). The elevation is 463 feet. Darden appears on the Parsons U.S. Geological Survey Map. Henderson County is in the Central time zone (GMT -6). Observes DST? Yes. Current Time. | Darden, TN ZIP Code Maps

 

[cluciano63]

I agree 100% with nothing has been right since day 1. I have not paid much attention, but some, to information coming out. I've had my beliefs since day 1, just kind of waiting it out now to see who is charged and all.

You are a lot more optimistic than I am...I never expect missing people to be found or anyone to be charged anymore...it will come as a shock to me if it happens here, or in Lauren Spierer's case...or Kyron's, or Hailey's or Haleigh's...to name a few. I honestly don't think that, overall, LE knows what to do in cases when they cannot find the missing person. The exceptional cases where someone is charged later on without a body usually had some evidence of a crime scene, at least. Holly's case has that (signs of a struggle, blood) which is more than most, if they ever do find a suspect...so I suppose it is a "better" case than many others. But any DNA should have been back by now, so the most they could have, IMO, is DNA of a male with no one to match it to.

Just very disillusioned by this case...the reporting, the conflicting accounts, the lack of immediacy in getting into those woods after Holly, etc...

 

[Carla Lashelle]

... at least. Holly's case has that (signs of a struggle, blood) which is more than most, if they ever do find a suspect...so I suppose it is a "better" case than many others. But any DNA should have been back by now, so the most they could have, IMO, is DNA of a male with no one to match it to.

Parents said its Holly's blood the other day on JVM

 

[cluciano63]

Parents said its Holly's blood the other day on JVM

Right, I was thinking of DNA on an item they found, perhaps...

 

[Prancy]

After watching portions of the JVM interview for the second time, I have some more questions. Upthread someone posted some facts about this case. I think they say that a neighbor heard a scream and called Holly's mom at work. Holly's mom then called home to check on kids. But that does not match with what brother says in the interview. He repeatedly says that he called his mom. Just curious. I think the difference in details matter in that situation.

Also, up thread someone posted an ariel view of the property. In the bottom it says that Holly and abductor walked upward on the map towards the tree portion. It looks like there is a road that goes in front of the house. So, if they walked in that direction, wouldn't they have had to cross the road before hitting the woods? Maybe, I'm not looking at it correctly. It just seems like you would say they walked towards the road, not towards the woods, if they would have arrived at the road first OR did they cross the road and then walk into the trees. I'm not following it based on that map.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

It should be noted when reading the below that


[You might be able to pick out some more info here:
http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/holly-bobo-timeline/

Casesignal is an excellent website. I noticed a few things of interest in reading through the transcripts, and wonder if there is some clarification on the following.

Reference was made to a neighbor hearing a scream around 7:40-thus the beginning timeline.

Question--if you look at the layout of the Bobo house and property, this is in the middle of Nowhere, How close are the neighbors, and if the neighbor heard a scream why wouldn't Clint have heard his sister scream.

Did anyone actually SEE Holly in the driveway, or are they assuming from the coke can and blood? :waitasec:

 

[JeannieC]

Casesignal is an excellent website. I noticed a few things of interest in reading through the transcripts, and wonder if there is some clarification on the following.

Reference was made to a neighbor hearing a scream around 7:40-thus the beginning timeline.

Question--if you look at the layout of the Bobo house and property, this is in the middle of Nowhere, How close are the neighbors, and if the neighbor heard a scream why wouldn't Clint have heard his sister scream.

Did anyone actually SEE Holly in the driveway, or are they assuming from the coke can and blood? :waitasec:

Could the neighbor have heard the scream after HB was walked away from the house? The houses aren't close so would the neighbor have heard HB scream if she was still next to her own house?

With A/C running, TV, Radio something has to be really loud for me to hear it in my house. If HB was near the water it might have carried her scream. I hear things off the lake near where I live. The water carries the sound.

Just a thought.

 

[wfgodot]

Given the paucity of known hard facts, anything could have happened.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Right, I was thinking of DNA on an item they found, perhaps...

There has been no mention of DNA on anything... so thats total speculation

 

[MysteryAddict]

Question-

Was blood found both on the floor of the garage (carport) and also in the driveway along with a coke can?

 

[cluciano63]

There has been no mention of DNA on anything... so thats total speculation

My point was, that unless they have that I am not seeing much more chance of this one being solved than any of the others I listed...I doubt they have his DNA. I think that would be the most they could have, and still have it be unsolvable.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

You are a lot more optimistic than I am...I never expect missing people to be found or anyone to be charged anymore...it will come as a shock to me if it happens here, or in Lauren Spierer's case...or Kyron's, or Hailey's or Haleigh's...to name a few. I honestly don't think that, overall, LE knows what to do in cases when they cannot find the missing person. The exceptional cases where someone is charged later on without a body usually had some evidence of a crime scene, at least. Holly's case has that (signs of a struggle, blood) which is more than most, if they ever do find a suspect...so I suppose it is a "better" case than many others. But any DNA should have been back by now, so the most they could have, IMO, is DNA of a male with no one to match it to.

Just very disillusioned by this case...the reporting, the conflicting accounts, the lack of immediacy in getting into those woods after Holly, etc...

I don't find anything odd about Holly's case. Sadly it has become more of the norm than a rarity nowadays. She.... like Tara Grinstead is dead imo and so many others who were gone in the blink of an eye.

It is like looking for needle in a haystack. If the only DNA evidence left behind belongs to Holly that really doesn't help LE find her perpetrator and if they do have someone else's DNA as long as he is not in the data bank he will go undetected.

I pray that Holly is alive and I know her family hopes and prays for the same. But the odds are against her and she was probably raped and murdered shortly after she was abducted.

Maybe one day a hunter, fisherman or camper will discover her body if she is out in a wooded area somewhere and bring her home to her family.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Casesignal is an excellent website. I noticed a few things of interest in reading through the transcripts, and wonder if there is some clarification on the following.

Reference was made to a neighbor hearing a scream around 7:40-thus the beginning timeline.

Question--if you look at the layout of the Bobo house and property, this is in the middle of Nowhere, How close are the neighbors, and if the neighbor heard a scream why wouldn't Clint have heard his sister scream.

Did anyone actually SEE Holly in the driveway, or are they assuming from the coke can and blood? :waitasec:

It might be in the boonies but I have no doubt other people travel down that road.

If the neighbor was outside when she heard the scream it would be understandable. Noises carry much further in open spaces instead of hearing them inside an enclosed space when they were coming from outside.

Especially if Clnt was in the bathroom taking a shower.

IMO

 

[cluciano63]

I don't find anything odd about Holly's case. Sadly it has become more of the norm than a rarity nowadays. She.... like Tara Grinstead is dead imo and so many others who were gone in the blink of an eye.

It is like looking for needle in a haystack. If the only DNA evidence left behind belongs to Holly that really doesn't help LE find her perpetrator and if they do have someone else's DNA as long as he is not in the data bank he will go undetected.

I pray that Holly is alive and I know her family hopes and prays for the same. But the odds are against her and she was probably raped and murdered shortly after she was abducted.

Maybe one day a hunter, fisherman or camper will discover her body if she is out in a wooded area somewhere and bring her home to her family.

IMO

I didn't say her case was odd, but it is unusual, since they have a witness to her being taken, and there are some signs of something having happened to her. That's all. Different from the other cases I mentioned, where there are no witnesses (that have come forward) and no signs of blood, struggle, etc.

 

[Advocate1]

Hello Everyone-

I am new to WS as far as posting.
Holly's case brought me here and I have read every single post, lol.

I will catch up with today and then jump in

 

[MLE]

Maybe she was raped, strangled to death or killed in some other manner, and bundled up inside a tarp near the edge of the woods.

Perhaps a tarp could've been used for several reasons: so he could rape her and not get grass stains on his clothing, so his DNA wouldn't be left on the ground during a rape, or so he could bundle her up in the tarp to disguise her as he left with her (dead or alive), or to keep her skin cells inside the tarp in order to cause the tracking dogs to lose the trail.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Question-

Was blood found both on the floor of the garage (carport) and also in the driveway along with a coke can?

We know Clint said garage... But various other "sources" have said carport driveway and lawn... Take your pick!

 

[Lovejac]

Hello Everyone-

I am new to WS as far as posting.
Holly's case brought me here and I have read every single post, lol.

I will catch up with today and then jump in

:welcome4::greetings:

We LOVE new brains to pick! :seeya:

 

[RavenTrue]

Holly and Gail Palmgren were lost in TN. I understand that the TBI keeps it very quiet, but am questioning their techniques as neither have been solved. Give US something! I think, and pray for them and families every day.